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Diablo 4 players enraged by $65 horse armor bundle:​


https://www.dexerto.com/diablo/diablo-4-players-enraged-by-65-horse-armor-bundle-2373415/

That's almost the same price as a brand-new AAA title?#!

I thought this kind of things were obvius from the start? D4 players reap what they sow.
Maybe it's an internal Microsoft thing now. Like, keep pushing the gross monetization in Blizz games so that whatever Bethesda does looks generous and player-friendly.

"Our horse armour pack was only $2!"
 

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People don't even bother checking clickbaits/fake outrage anymore?
Not that I condone their pricing (or microtransactions in general), but that mount is a free bonus.

They have 1$/€ = 100 coins
Minor bonuses at higher amounts: 25€ = 2500 coins+ 300 free, 50€ = 5000 + 700 free, 100€= 10.000 + 1500 free
The bundle with that mount is: 65€ = 6500 + 1300 free + free mount

The skins are 20-25€ and they are per class. Plenty to complain about, no need to make stuff up.
 

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1$/€ = 100 coins
No 1$/€ => 100 coins.
You can't get money for coins. So they are not worth the same. The only thing you get for coins is other worthless crap.
You know there is a reason why they don't sell stuff directly for money, but have you convert it into coins first?
 

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1$/€ = 100 coins
No 1$/€ => 100 coins.
You can't get money for coins. So they are not worth the same. The only thing you get for coins is other worthless crap.
You know there is a reason why they don't sell stuff directly for money, but have you convert it into coins first?
Convert to coins is probably so they can have you gamble with coins when it would be forbidden to gamble with real money.
 

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1$/€ = 100 coins
No 1$/€ => 100 coins.
You can't get money for coins. So they are not worth the same. The only thing you get for coins is other worthless crap.
You know there is a reason why they don't sell stuff directly for money, but have you convert it into coins first?
Convert to coins is probably so they can have you gamble with coins when it would be forbidden to gamble with real money.

that's probably part of it, but the real reason it remove the direct money connotation from purchases. The further away you get from thinking "this is going to cost me 10 dollars" the better for them.
 

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It serves a bunch of purposes, none of them good. One is indeed gambling, another is to distance you from how much money you are actually spending and a third is so they control the exchange value. It's also a way to circumvent certain laws.
 

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that's probably part of it, but the real reason it remove the direct money connotation from purchases. The further away you get from thinking "this is going to cost me 10 dollars" the better for them.
The way this shop is presented seems to be the exact opposite. Clear and simple $/€ to points conversion. Same with PoE. Maybe instead of nickel and diming they rely on people's need to flaunt shit so the value needs to be clear.
 

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that's probably part of it, but the real reason it remove the direct money connotation from purchases. The further away you get from thinking "this is going to cost me 10 dollars" the better for them.
The way this shop is presented seems to be the exact opposite. Clear and simple $/€ to points conversion. Same with PoE. Maybe instead of nickel and diming they rely on people's need to flaunt shit so the value needs to be clear.
Agree with you there, but what boggles the mind is the fact that D4 is not a MMO, where you could stand on the Ironforge bridge and flaunt your raid tier shit.
 

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that's probably part of it, but the real reason it remove the direct money connotation from purchases. The further away you get from thinking "this is going to cost me 10 dollars" the better for them.
The way this shop is presented seems to be the exact opposite. Clear and simple $/€ to points conversion. Same with PoE. Maybe instead of nickel and diming they rely on people's need to flaunt shit so the value needs to be clear.
Agree with you there, but what boggles the mind is the fact that D4 is not a MMO, where you could stand on the Ironforge bridge and flaunt your raid tier shit.

Towns show other players all the time, the instancing stuff happens outside of town, so you could stand around town showing off your blingies. Not that anyone cares, or that you get a good view of anyone's character but your own (in the character screen) since it's still an isometric view even if it's zoomed in way too close.
 

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One is indeed gambling
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another is to distance you from how much money you are actually spending
$1=100 coins, so when you see a 2800 cosmetic you know it's 28 bucks. It's as clear as it possibly could be.
third is so they control the exchange value
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another is to distance you from how much money you are actually spending
$1=100 coins, so when you see a 2800 cosmetic you know it's 28 bucks. It's as clear as it possibly could be.

Some of this may be different in different regions and even if it stayed at that exchange rate, never underestimate the massive stupidity of people.

third is so they control the exchange value

This should be pretty clear, but basically, is it even possible to only buy the amount of coins you need for X cosmetic? If not, then you're always left with bits and bobs of coins you paid for that can't be used for anything without buying more coins. Which is bullshit and anti-consumer, but somehow manages to be a legal accepted practice.
 

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Standard prices are multiple of minimum ammount you can transfer. But "discounted" prices don't follow that rule. And it seems they do it deliberately. 100 coins is minimum buy. 1000 coins item -> 50% reduction -> 490 coins. Better buy 10 more discounted items to not have leftovers!
 

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Every few years a otherwise good RPG or Action RPG falls in love with the idea of forever scaling enemies to the players power level. Not realizing that one of the great joys of RPGs and RPG like games is going back to a lower level area and curb stomping the guys that where so hard before. I grew bored with it very quickly and still never left act one.
 

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Every few years a otherwise good RPG or Action RPG falls in love with the idea of forever scaling enemies to the players power level. Not realizing that one of the great joys of RPGs and RPG like games is going back to a lower level area and curb stomping the guys that where so hard before. I grew bored with it very quickly and still never left act one.

That's what Grim Dawn is doing since the last update. No matter the difficulty enemies are on the same +/- 1level as you.
 

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They already pulled a D3. Nerfed the game with major power creep on top, way faster leveling, more loot drops and the masses are LOVING IT.
Also people like krip mentioned how great this season is (https://youtu.be/GZ4Ph7G7aQo) out of the goodness of their heart.

You say they're desperate meanwhile probably racking in big time and expansion will be a big time hit.
 
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Kripp plays Hearthstone for a living
 

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