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Diablo IV
- Thread starter Wulfric Pinewood
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Don't bother, it's a waste of time.
Lyric Suite
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I don't think the word "free" and Blizzard can go toghether.
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Stop being part of the problem
abija
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I can totally see it released free on gamepass 1 season before expansion.
Also, not like bethesda went along "free", but when the master dictates...
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United Nations
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Yeah, I realize that.
But even D2 so far seems darker in tone than D4.
Both are dark fantasy and not horror though, but I think it would be fairly simple to create a Diablo horror game at this point, using the exact same assets featured in D4.
United Nations
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Yeah it did.
Dunno why all of the sequels went the dark fantasy route.
There's basically zero recent quality isometric horror RPG's I can think of.
United Nations
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Seriously should have waited for the expansion, which is what I planned to do, but got suckered by a free trial with a level 20 cap.
Looking back at my playthrough of Diablo Immortal and Diablo II: LOD (I didn't play D1 or D3), Immortal had a pretty polished campaign upon release, but the endgame was terrible.
D2: LOD was actually a great game all the way through, and I played it almost 20 years ago.
Since LOD was my first game in the franchise, I always thought it was weird that hell wasn't the last act (only in the base game), but the varied environments is what made the game awesome IMO.
In the first two zones of D4, again, the maps themselves look really good, so good, that they seem out of place in comparison to the generic mobs you encounter in them.
I have no idea about how Blizzard delegated and assigned people to work on various parts of the game, all I followed was pre-release footage.
It's as if they spent most of the budget on the way the maps look, since other parts of the campaign is lacking and missing a lot of stuff.
Grim Dawn was the exact opposite: it was so completely oversaturated with everything that the base game was nothing but a confusing mess.
Looking back at my playthrough of Diablo Immortal and Diablo II: LOD (I didn't play D1 or D3), Immortal had a pretty polished campaign upon release, but the endgame was terrible.
D2: LOD was actually a great game all the way through, and I played it almost 20 years ago.
Since LOD was my first game in the franchise, I always thought it was weird that hell wasn't the last act (only in the base game), but the varied environments is what made the game awesome IMO.
In the first two zones of D4, again, the maps themselves look really good, so good, that they seem out of place in comparison to the generic mobs you encounter in them.
I have no idea about how Blizzard delegated and assigned people to work on various parts of the game, all I followed was pre-release footage.
It's as if they spent most of the budget on the way the maps look, since other parts of the campaign is lacking and missing a lot of stuff.
Grim Dawn was the exact opposite: it was so completely oversaturated with everything that the base game was nothing but a confusing mess.
United Nations
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I'm talking about oversaturated visuals alone... At least that's what I thought when I played it right when it first came out.
Nathir
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And whose fault is that? It's Blizzards fault, nobody elses. It's their game, they can do whatever they want with it. If the developer doesn't have a vision for it's own game and instead listens to redditors on what to change, of course it's going to suck. I mean, we're talking about devs that put stats like "item power" into their game and affixes like "+36% damage while standing still". Omfg, what a joke of a company.
Lacrymas
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You don't want to stand still in a hack and slasher even when your main skill is a channeled ability.
Reinhardt
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nigga, there is literally zero horror rpgs at all.
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abija
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Might want to explain that one.
Lacrymas
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Unless your build is specifically designed to face tank hordes of enemies and bosses, there's 0 reason to stay in one place and get trampled. Your objective is to avoid as much damage as possible and that's done through positioning and moving around. The vaaaaast majority of builds don't gain anything by staying in one place and even those which can get away with it have a weak incentive to do so. In the case of channeled abilities, where you'd think getting more damage while standing still will be the most beneficial, these builds rarely rely on this single ability to do all the damage either way, so you'll benefit more from other stats. Tbh, even having this kind of stat in your game tells me you don't know how hack and slashers are played.
abija
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Majority of skills in these games actually lock you in place while they fire at least part of the animation. "Always moving" only happens with few skills or during degenerate farm gameplay.
On top of channeling, long cast time skills, tanky builds, it also rewards players with enough skill to position so that they take advantage of the bonus. It's a bonus if you can adjust the playstyle not just some dumb number increase.
On top of channeling, long cast time skills, tanky builds, it also rewards players with enough skill to position so that they take advantage of the bonus. It's a bonus if you can adjust the playstyle not just some dumb number increase.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Stationary
United Nations
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That looks good for a side scroller, but I'm strictly interested in quality ISOMETRIC RPG horror games.
https://www.thegamer.com/diablo-4-survey-reportedly-asks-players-100-dollar-dlc/
tl;dr - survey asking players how they'd feel about paid stash tabs, early access, pre-order access to legendaries/aspects before the expansion comes out Destiny-style for $49.99/$69.99/$79.99/$99.99 tiers
Iluvcheezcake
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True, but it would be the same company and the same(ish) team doing it...
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