Disco Elysium spoilery thread

[Haba]

Man, i wish Kim would just let me sit in a bench and wait, i genuinely can't think of things to do or talk about right now, i have interacted and spoken with everyone about what i can talk about, and it's making the bench look so good, but Kim is just like "You can sit AFTER we solve the case!".

Play a board game with him.

 

[Prime Junta]

You have to be pretty dum to make Ruby suicide considering right before you meet her you state yourself from found bullet that she is ready to take her life. So just asking her to talk is incredibly easy and nice option.

I guess I was pretty dumb then. Just another failure in a long line of failures.

I went for the machine the first chance I got. It was an easy check and I knocked it over. Then she put the gun in her mouth. I failed a Rhetoric check, and boom.

Oh stop. You larping some failures doesn't change the fact that some quest lines are pure content which you can miss, and you get nothing out of your choice of *not* doing said content. The gun hunt is a prime example of this.

I got one hell of an emotional experience, and a bunch of new stuff to see on my second playthrough. I would have enjoyed that first run less had I done all of that at once. It would've felt like lawnmowing. I also had a very high chance of getting the lady to sign the paper (because high Suggestion), and I didn't want to have her do that, so I never asked: fuck Evrart, he can keep my damn gun. I wanted to solve that fucking case, damn the rest.

 

[Shadenuat]

Finding your lost firearm, which you are told to do by your superiors and Kim and which makes sense due to incoming events is lawnmowing?

I guess so is doing the cute dice maker quest then? Why do that?

 

[Prime Junta]

Finding your lost firearm, which you are told to do by your superiors and Kim and which makes sense due to incoming events is lawnmowing?

I guess so is doing the cute dice maker quest then? Why do that?

Bruh.

I'm just coming down from one of my all time peak gaming experiences.

You're telling me "you're doing it wrong."

With the greatest respect and much affection, go eat a dick.

 

[Shadenuat]

You liked the cute dice maker quest I take it.

 

[Prime Junta]

You liked the cute dice maker quest I take it.

I didn't know she really had a quest.

In my second playthrough I did get to tell her the true cause of the curse. In my first one I just passed a Shivers check and told her after that, without knowing what the deal with the church was. The first time around I also bought a pair of her most expensive dice because I thought they were cool. Was there something more to it?

 

[Shadenuat]

Well you crashed into some random place NPC asked you not to, got rewarded by a few interesting quests and clues to the case (hidden guns); so I wonder what would be a "reward" of not doing this.

 

[Prime Junta]

Well you crashed into some random place NPC asked you not to, got rewarded by a few interesting quests and clues to the case (hidden guns); so I wonder what would be a "reward" of not doing this.

I was looking for a fridge to stow a corpse in. Cuno had told me there is one in the building. Plus I had a severe hangover and wasn't acting entirely rationally. Oh and I thought that since her room was overlooking the yard she might have seen something.

 

[Shadenuat]

Listening to Cuno is not particularly rational either.

But yes, I get you, larping.

 

[Silentstorm]

You can find some weird stuff, for example, the locked container close to Evrart's office is probably worth save scumming, preferably with Kim close by so that you can open a container with the magic of talking.

You do meet a strange rich man with a face you can't see and apparently light powers that can give you 100 Real, and, amusingly enough, if you talk to Evrart about it, he seems to believe you and implies he told his people to check the containers for reality warping rich people, there's just some weird delightful stuff hidden away not related to the main quest, though this particular one is locked behind a tough skill check.

 

[Parabalus]

I found that one of the cooler parts of the game.

You can just talk rich people into giving you massive amounts of money, while poor detectives get to pick up bottles in a plastic bag for pennies.

 

[vota DC]

What is so terrible about Ruby suicide?

 

[Silentstorm]

Solved the Boombox bug thanks to Reddit, found out a thread there stating what lines to change to get the Boombox, didn't even pay for it but just talking to the clerk makes it look like i did, and i managed to play the tape!

Hell yeah, now at the Ruby part.

 

[Stompa]

TwinkieGorilla mentioning PnP games often got me thinking about a thing in DE that I found odd. Namely, that the game really likes to wank its setting but barely uses it. It reminded me of DMs and trashy fantasy authors that meticulously craft every little detail in their imaginary worlds and feel like they absolutely need to show you their work even if it's dull deriviative drivel. What DE does strikes me as an infinitely better written version of that. It keeps telling you about those other districts which you never get to see, other made-up countries that boil down to vague not-Africa and not-Japan and a lot of history out of which only one factoid is relevant to the case. There are differences with our world, yes, but how do they play out? Cars look different but are essentially the same, tape computers are in vogue but the only difference is that a nice old lady needs to hear your password, breach-loaded firearms are banned yet no one lets out more than one bullet in quick enough succession for that to matter. About the only truly outlandish thing in DE is pale and the anomaly in church that's connected to it, all the rest is just pointless fluff. Contrast it with Fallouts, AoD or VtM:B where their settings shown off extensively through gameplay and story, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[Silentstorm]

I think that wasn't the point, some odd things aside, the game was always intended to be mostly a noir story revolving around a murder that happened in one district, and the side quests are also relegated to being in it, Harry and Kim don't have any reason to go anywhere else in a way that makes sense.

Only if this was a big conspiracy or a case revolving around a country travelling serial killer you were chasing would you go around going to other places, the lore is just there because some people just like lore, or just to give a view of the setting itself to the player, i wasn't really expecting a big world to explore out of DE, but what was there was fine.

As for the setting, the outlandish parts are mostly away from people, Kim isn't exactly a believer for example, they are things you have to go out and look for, and regarding only some slightly different things, it is sadly common, heck, if i look around, there are probably a hundred different names for what is essentially coffee in sci-fi, only changing the name or a design of a thing slightly and acting like it's different is quite a common technique.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I'm leaving a small note here for a future point when I've found the answer:

Spoiler

I don't think that drug trafficker woman murdered the merc. If the possibility for a sniper shot is real, then it could have been only the other two mercs, because one of them must have been reporting information on the wind to the other. Otherwise a shot through the man's mouth with a 4.5 mm bullet from ~700 m would becomes from nigh impossible a complete impossibility. If the whole sniper shot is a red herring on the other hand, this still doesn't necessarily point to the drug trafficker.

Nice, I was right about half of it at least. Doing such a shot from such a distance is still far fetched IMO.

 

[Tigranes]

I mean, the result is that there's a lot of lore in the game you can dig into if you want, but in almost every single case you can ignore it if you don't want a loredump and you are totally fine. People with POE trauma probably appreciate it the most.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I prefer the idea of Harry just never being able to let the woman from his past go, and the memories eating him up until he just snaps and becomes an unhinged alcohol-powered fucker who gave up on life. This, of course, also combines with the stress of his job and the performance expectations he puts on himself for being a SUPERSTAR COP.

At some point, a man's mind just gives in.

A "Boomer Cop", so to speak.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Makes sense, but it is not how it works in game. These distractions (like getting gun back) improve your chances so to speak.

I wasn't gaming. I was role-playing. I don't think I've ever been that immersed in my role in a game, not even with PS:T.

In my playthrough I never got my gun back. I didn't want to work for Evret.

 

[Tigranes]

So are there any significant things to be done behind Kim's back? Sure, little things like the boots, but given there are pretty robust mechanics for Kim coming and going (sneaking out at night, or sending him to deliver the corpse), and given the nature of the Evrart/Joyce setup, I would have thought that the whole point is have dumbass PC go back to Evrart alone and cut a stupid deal, things like that. It's disappointing that there's not more there.

 

[Shadenuat]

a lot of plot dialogue is just locked if Kim isn't present

 

[Silentstorm]

I remember on day 2 sending Kim to go take the corpse to the Precint and was going around talking and doing side quests, one of which was Joyce's so i was looking for the drug dealer, found the racist driver and i just couldn't get him to talk about the female driver at all, no matter what option i picked, he just said something about the RCM not being in charge and how great and mighty the Union was and blah blah blah.

Day 3 i go back with Kim and suddenly the dialogue opens and i managed to actually get some information, while it's true you can only do some stuff when Kim isn't around, the same can also be said about parts of the game only being opened when good old Kim is around, by the way, is there anything to do on night?

I only went out to talk to that diplomat and get my gun back, never really explored much at night, the detective does need to sleep after all and it didn't seem like a lot of places would be open or that dialogue would change too much at night.

 

[Tigranes]

That sucks shit. I never thought it would be a super nonlinear game, but I'm starting to suspect that it's actually a very linear game.

Tried barging into the bookstore without even talking to the girl or lady, ignoring the protestations as hate-superstitions-brawny-cop pulled open the curtains. Turns out lady just goes OH BTW GHOST IN THERE ANYWAY FINE YOU GO IN I GUESS

Also as far as I can tell once you pass the Drama check, doesn't matter what retarded shit you tell her she believes your tale about being a ghostbuster

 

[Silentstorm]

Would you go against a guy that just broke down your door by running into it twice and has probably been acting and looking like a drunken crazy bastard going to a place you believe is cursed?

No, you let that man in and hope he doesn't do anything.

 

[Twiglard]

I'm having some doubts about the game's random number generator. Try purposely savescumming. It took me between 4 to 6 attempts on average to beat a 40% or 50% skill check. Just to be clear, the savescummed checks are rerolled each time (some games like Eschalon saved the random seed to try and prevent that).

Could it be that the game is using a wrong formula? There's a difference between 2d6 and 1d12.