Disco Elysium spoilery thread

[Shadenuat]

There is sometimes a strange alchemy and I don't really know that it can be dissected any further than that

Some women are fey from a forest from the Moon. can be flatchested boylike with weird nose and multiple people bring her flowers every day. she has many to choose from and you would never guess.

some are naturally cute. had one woman jelly of little blondy "she has nothing!" with every man meeting her instantly getting a crush on her, was hilarious, almost comical "welp here goes another dude confessing True Love TM" etc.

there is also thought and intelligence. You can see in Disco, that Dolores is sharp and smart. also can make a girl stand out from the crowd of uninteresting ones.

anyway, the eyes can deceive you. never trust them. it's the lesson I learned at least. (arrested blonde on 1st playthrough )

 

[Starwars]

I used to work in a psych ward and you got quite a lot of "Klaasje-likes" in there, girls and women, often with diagnosed personality disorders. It's really interesting to observe the effects they have on people honestly. It varies from person to person but some of them would just have the the other 13 patients on the ward swarming around them within a day. There's just a certain energy to them, and you can feel it without even having talked to some of them, it's very noticeable. It's like there's a magnet inside them that just pulls people to them.
And while there's a lot of manipulation going on, a lot of them just do it because it's so interwoven in their personality. They don't manipulate with a goal in mind, they just do it because it's who they are, what they do and what they've always done. And they manipulate themselves as well.
Some are obviously smarter than others, some are more aware, some are a complete mess.

Klaasje was a brilliant take on that type of personality I think.

 

[Alienman]

Sounds like women in general to me

Kidding aside I was dating a master manipulator for a couple of months, took a long time for my head to stop spinning. So many lies, up and downs, couldn't tell what was coming on what day. I think she was bipolar.

 

[Alpan]

And while there's a lot of manipulation going on, a lot of them just do it because it's so interwoven in their personality. They don't manipulate with a goal in mind, they just do it because it's who they are, what they do and what they've always done.

Insightful. To this I'd like to add: Because the manipulated want to be manipulated. It just feels better to go on that sort of ride, to play along when not doing it would feel like being a spoilsport.

This is why I loved it when during the game Volition kicked in and basically called the rest of the skill family out, it felt very human.

 

[Shadenuat]

I found it strange that purple did it actually. It's feels that get you confused, "untuition" etc is garbage when dealing with this.

 

[Alpan]

That's the point I wanted to make -- I don't think it's so much a matter of confusion as it is a willingness to be manipulated. Volition being the moral compass sees through the other skills' bullshit.

 

[molotov.]

I wonder why developers were afraid to kill Kim during shooting if things go really bad. They then could have rewritten Harry dialogue into disco-Harry and show him truly fall to madness. Make some legendary branching out there and throw some plot bombs and things. Would make game truly worthy of a replay.

Don't know about that. I sensed something strange in my spine whilst reading the dialogue of the final scene... I think they are planning a sequence. If that is true, it would be important to maintain Kim alive - because they knew he would be a fan favourite.

 

[HoboForEternity]

I wonder why developers were afraid to kill Kim during shooting if things go really bad. They then could have rewritten Harry dialogue into disco-Harry and show him truly fall to madness. Make some legendary branching out there and throw some plot bombs and things. Would make game truly worthy of a replay.

Don't know about that. I sensed something strange in my spine whilst reading the dialogue of the final scene... I think they are planning a sequence. If that is true, it would be important to maintain Kim alive - because they knew he would be a fan favourite.

or they can just pick the canon ending like fallout did.

 

[Prime Junta]

Don't know about that. I sensed something strange in my spine whilst reading the dialogue of the final scene... I think they are planning a sequence. If that is true, it would be important to maintain Kim alive - because they knew he would be a fan favourite.

They definitely have plans for sequels. Disco Elysium is written as the opening for a much bigger game. They talked about this when I first went to seem them in 2017. They even have a name for it which may ring a bell if you've finished this one: The Return. (Of what? The King? The Commune? On investment? Views differ...)

The other thing is, this is an entire world they've built. It has rooms for lots of different types of games. They could totally do an RTS set during the Franconigerian century, or a swords-and-sandals thing in the Perikarnassian, or any of a number of other things. Ideas is one thing they are not short on. They just need to find more oligarchs to give them the monies.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Don't know about that. I sensed something strange in my spine whilst reading the dialogue of the final scene... I think they are planning a sequence. If that is true, it would be important to maintain Kim alive - because they knew he would be a fan favourite.

They definitely have plans for sequels. Disco Elysium is written as the opening for a much bigger game. They talked about this when I first went to seem them in 2017. They even have a name for it which may ring a bell if you've finished this one: The Return. (Of what? The King? The Commune? On investment? Views differ...)

Gott erhalte Philip den Kaiser!

 

[Parabalus]

Don't know about that. I sensed something strange in my spine whilst reading the dialogue of the final scene... I think they are planning a sequence. If that is true, it would be important to maintain Kim alive - because they knew he would be a fan favourite.

They definitely have plans for sequels. Disco Elysium is written as the opening for a much bigger game. They talked about this when I first went to seem them in 2017. They even have a name for it which may ring a bell if you've finished this one: The Return. (Of what? The King? The Commune? On investment? Views differ...)

The other thing is, this is an entire world they've built. It has rooms for lots of different types of games. They could totally do an RTS set during the Franconigerian century, or a swords-and-sandals thing in the Perikarnassian, or any of a number of other things. Ideas is one thing they are not short on. They just need to find more oligarchs to give them the monies.

Is DE doing okay money-wise? Where do they page wages? Search has Brighton popping up.

 

[Prime Junta]

Is DE doing okay money-wise? Where do they page wages? Search has Brighton popping up.

The team is split between Brighton and Tallinn. I don't know how they're doing money-wise, but indirect evidence seems to indicate that it's not been a complete flop at least.

 

[Tigranes]

Don't know about that. I sensed something strange in my spine whilst reading the dialogue of the final scene... I think they are planning a sequence. If that is true, it would be important to maintain Kim alive - because they knew he would be a fan favourite.

They definitely have plans for sequels. Disco Elysium is written as the opening for a much bigger game. They talked about this when I first went to seem them in 2017. They even have a name for it which may ring a bell if you've finished this one: The Return. (Of what? The King? The Commune? On investment? Views differ...)

The other thing is, this is an entire world they've built. It has rooms for lots of different types of games. They could totally do an RTS set during the Franconigerian century, or a swords-and-sandals thing in the Perikarnassian, or any of a number of other things. Ideas is one thing they are not short on. They just need to find more oligarchs to give them the monies.

They also told me that Disco Elysium itself was meant to be far bigger - something like three times? - and they had to scale it down.

Think of Martinaise as essentially a city quarter of Baldur's Gate - and they have at least the entire Sword Coast set out, or something.

 

[Prime Junta]

Think of Martinaise as essentially a city quarter of Baldur's Gate - and they have at least the entire Sword Coast set out, or something.

Way, WAY more than the Sword Coast. I've seen maps and descriptions and shit. All of those places that come up -- Seol, Semene, Katla, Vaasa, Samarra and so on and so forth -- exist in exquisite detail. They've adventured there for 15 years. Robert wrote a novel which IIRC is set in Vaasa. The scope and depth of the world is fucking huge, we're talking Middle-Earth if Rhûn and Harad existed as places rather than just names on the map.

 

[frajaq]

They also told me that Disco Elysium itself was meant to be far bigger - something like three times? - and they had to scale it down.

Think of Martinaise as essentially a city quarter of Baldur's Gate - and they have at least the entire Sword Coast set out, or something.

yeah my first run of the game I thought the game would open up way more, probably because I've seen some really really early picture of the game with the motor carriage outside the church (and Harry/Kim hanging out), and so I thought you would be able to move around more

 

[Silentstorm]

Welp, playing the game again and found one big bug, got to the point where i am trying to obtain a boombox to play the tape, but i didn't have enough money to buy it, so i left, came back once i got enough money and now the freaking option to buy the boombox isn't available.

I tried all dialogue options that made sense, but nothing, can't do it anymore, gotta love when i can't buy an item and it happens randomly.

 

[Prime Junta]

Welp, playing the game again and found one big bug, got to the point where i am trying to obtain a boombox to play the tape, but i didn't have enough money to buy it, so i left, came back once i got enough money and now the freaking option to buy the boombox isn't available.

I tried all dialogue options that made sense, but nothing, can't do it anymore, gotta love when i can't buy an item and it happens randomly.

Did you click on the area above the pawnbroker's where the boombox is?

 

[Silentstorm]

Did that but it doesn't work, with either the clerk or the shelf, there is no option to buy it, just the guy saying the boomboxes are on the shelf, that they work and that he can't play it there because he doesn't give freebies.

Apparently it's an actual bug that other people have gotten, so...yeah, unless it's patched, make sure you go there with 12 real or you are screwed out of that option.

 

[Daidre]

Apparently it's an actual bug that other people have gotten, so...yeah, unless it's patched, make sure you go there with 12 real or you are screwed out of that option.

I have bought boombox for 4 Real, but option was hidden behind iirc some int check. He gives discount when you say that not for music and he hates music.

 

[Silentstorm]

I am going to be honest, i didn't get another room and foolishly paid the money to stay in Whirling Rags a second time, and since i didn't know about the bug, i went in too early when i didn't even have 4 Real, though someone said there is a chance the bug goes away after one day in-game.

Or i can also mess around with files, someone on Steam says there is a workaround, but it involves messing with the files and changing some text that can vary depending on the playthrough and the boombox may not even work until you change everything exactly right, because this bug has happened enough they had to go with this kind of workaround for some gamers.

 

[Prime Junta]

A patch just dropped on Steam. Try again maybe?

 

[Prime Junta]

All right, finished playthrough #2. Did all the stuff I didn't do last time, or most of it anyway: sang karaoke (or at least my reptilian brain did), invented the future of dance music, started a dance club/drug lab, discovered the true cause of the curse of financial distress, got my gun back, and a bunch more.

Some things played out somewhat differently. I wasn't able to break Ruby's machine so she got away (last time she shot herself which felt terrible). Same body count in the tribunal, but the corpses were different. I didn't get the Deserter to confess to his other crimes.

So event-wise there really wasn't that much difference. Flavour-wise though there was a lot, it felt really different to play as a cold, cool sleazeball than as the high-psyche, high-physique intuitive. It felt easier, too.

Terrific game. Not going to go for more playthroughs just yet. I think this is one I will be returning to from time to time though, like Planescape: Torment, even though I know it pretty well already.

Two things I was looking out for but didn't get:

• The Molotov cocktail and the Viking funeral for my tie. I bought the blue spirit from the bum but couldn't do anything with it.
• Getting Kim to tell me a secret.

 

[Shadenuat]

why didn't you do all these things before? none of them require a different build.

Ruby getting away is the only non retarded outcome you can get. even if you break machine and pass the blue check, you make her run with it.

 

[Prime Junta]

why didn't you do all these things before? none of them require a different build.

I wanted to crack the case. They seemed like distractions. It was what Lt. Dbl. Yefr. Harrier Du Bois would have done.

 

[Shadenuat]

Makes sense, but it is not how it works in game. These distractions (like getting gun back) improve your chances so to speak.