Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[AwesomeButton]

It's sad that even Codex is getting overrun by [people I don't like].

Joined: Dec 22, 2018

You know, that is six year ago.

Check the join date of the "newcomer" he was complaining about.

Not that it matters, but I was on #arcanum in 2003.

A reader's experience is always subjective, so there is no point arguing. It's pearls before swine with the basic redditors here.

 

[Kev Inkline]

It's sad that even Codex is getting overrun by [people I don't like].

Joined: Dec 22, 2018

This is the lamest shit retort that I see here from people with nothing meaningful to say. Like 6 years ago is some narrow time window you absolute fucking brainlet. As our lefty friends like to say, "do better".

Here I will save you the time on mine: Joined Aug 1, 2019

Messages: 505

 

[Roguey]

maybe you're the tiktok conditioned zoomer given your lack of reading comprehension and thinking Disco Elysium is "woke"

Disco Elysium was written for twitter addicts, zoomers are the audience.

 

[Lord_Potato]

IMO, Disco's writing has beautiful prose, but it takes fucking ages to get anywhere.

Then it's not beautiful

What do you know of beautiful prose? Your favorite books are literally personal development manuals

 

[luj1]

What do you know of beautiful prose? Your favorite books are literally personal development manuals

And you can tell that yours aren't

 

[9ted6]

maybe you're the tiktok conditioned zoomer given your lack of reading comprehension and thinking Disco Elysium is "woke"

Disco Elysium was written for twitter addicts, zoomers are the audience.

Its philosophy really is copy pasted from your average subreddit or twitter profile's posts.

quirky woke word vomit

maybe you're the tiktok conditioned zoomer given your lack of reading comprehension and thinking Disco Elysium is "woke"

The developers censored a word because twitter complained and they thanked Marx and Engels in their game award speech.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Disco Elysium was written for twitter addicts, zoomers are the audience.

Doesn't help your point when most of the complaints here are that the game is too verbose.

 

[Roguey]

Disco Elysium was written for twitter addicts, zoomers are the audience.

Doesn't help your point when most of the complaints here are that the game is too verbose.

Twitter feeds are also verbose.

In an interview with GameSpot, Kurvitz explains that contrary to the hand-wringing we’re all subject to about young ‘uns these days, people really do like reading. They read Twitter, text messages, chat apps, and Reddit among so many others. It’s just a matter of making the text “snappy” enough and displaying it well.

Kurvitz explains how Disco Elysium’s text is displayed in the bottom right corner of the screen where players may already be used to looking at their operating system’s dash, rather than in the center bottom the way that so many other RPGs display dialogue. He also believes that text is best read in a column, unlike the wide, short text boxes of something like the original Fallout.

Disco Elysium’s dialogue jumps up with each new line, at times without any input from the player. “We wanted to build a dialogue system as snappy and addictive as Twitter,” Kurvitz says.

 

[KVVRR]

Disco Elysium was written for twitter addicts, zoomers are the audience.

Doesn't help your point when most of the complaints here are that the game is too verbose.

Twitter feeds are also verbose.

In an interview with GameSpot, Kurvitz explains that contrary to the hand-wringing we’re all subject to about young ‘uns these days, people really do like reading. They read Twitter, text messages, chat apps, and Reddit among so many others. It’s just a matter of making the text “snappy” enough and displaying it well.

Kurvitz explains how Disco Elysium’s text is displayed in the bottom right corner of the screen where players may already be used to looking at their operating system’s dash, rather than in the center bottom the way that so many other RPGs display dialogue. He also believes that text is best read in a column, unlike the wide, short text boxes of something like the original Fallout.

Disco Elysium’s dialogue jumps up with each new line, at times without any input from the player. “We wanted to build a dialogue system as snappy and addictive as Twitter,” Kurvitz says.

Kurvitz did design the UI and dialogue delivery to mimic Twitter but a phonescroll look and a 140 word limit kinda goes against being verbose, no?

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Twitter feeds are also verbose.

Twitter is the domain of pithy shitposts and one-liners, you have to be extremely selective of the "average" twitter post to find it comparable to the typical verbosity of CRPG writing.

 

[normie]

maybe you're the tiktok conditioned zoomer given your lack of reading comprehension and thinking Disco Elysium is "woke"

DE is undoubtedly woke, denying it is as pedestrian as constantly harping on the fact, so for there to be discussion of it, as a baseline, you need to get past it

 

[Roguey]

Kurvitz did design the UI and dialogue delivery to mimic Twitter but a phonescroll look and a 140 word limit kinda goes against being verbose, no?

Playing Disco Elysium for hours and scrolling twitter for hours results in the same amount of reading.

 

[KVVRR]

Kurvitz did design the UI and dialogue delivery to mimic Twitter but a phonescroll look and a 140 word limit kinda goes against being verbose, no?

Playing Disco Elysium for hours and scrolling twitter for hours results in the same amount of reading.

What does that even mean? Individual reading speed doesn't make a writing format verbose.

 

[Roguey]

What does that even mean? Individual reading speed doesn't make a writing format verbose.

Disco provides its writing in bite sized chunks. Anyone who thinks it uses too many words is just subliterate and better off playing a roguelike or an action game or anything else where the gameplay isn't focused on reading.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

maybe you're the tiktok conditioned zoomer given your lack of reading comprehension and thinking Disco Elysium is "woke"

DE is undoubtedly woke, denying it is as pedestrian as constantly harping on the fact, so for there to be discussion of it, as a baseline, you need to get past it

Your obsession with retard commie devs does not mean the content itself is woke. Especially not the content I mentioned which somehow caused this shitshow.

 

[9ted6]

maybe you're the tiktok conditioned zoomer given your lack of reading comprehension and thinking Disco Elysium is "woke"

DE is undoubtedly woke, denying it is as pedestrian as constantly harping on the fact, so for there to be discussion of it, as a baseline, you need to get past it

Your obsession with retard commie devs does not mean the content itself is woke. Especially not the content I mentioned which somehow caused this shitshow.

If the devs were just woke commies on their own it'd be one thing but in this case not only is there woke commie content in the game they also up and thanked the two original commies in a completely unironic way for influencing it.

Even when the game shows negative examples of communism it frames it in the usual Not REAL Communism way. And everything about capitalists and social conservatives is a parody. What else are we supposed to take from that?

 

[Cohesion]

They are now capitalists fighting over $.
Fuck marx, sweet amerikwan bux converts even high level commies.

 

[Harthwain]

Even when the game shows negative examples of communism it frames it in the usual Not REAL Communism way.

Eh, bullshit. The game only talks about communism not being "real" as a way to justify/cope why the original attempt has failed* and why you (obviously) can do it and do it better. The funniest thing in this context is that when the game literally asks YOU to "build Communism" it explicitly states it is going to be a wholesale slaughter to do so. If you can't understand the implications of that, then I don't know what else to say.

* The perfect example of the cope is The Suicide of Kras Mazov thought.

 

[Roguey]

"Describe Disco Elysium without saying Disco Elysium"

communist art critiquing communism: we have failed you, oh god of proletarian futures! the miserable fate of man! it was trotsky's fault

liberal art critiquing communism: human nature bro

conservative art critiquing communism: the KGB lady laughed evilly, breasts jiggling

 

[Sunri]

Did you read the book, guys?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/12ysbl1/sacred_and_terrible_air_full_professional/

 

[KVVRR]

Did you read the book, guys?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/12ysbl1/sacred_and_terrible_air_full_professional/

Yeah, gave my thoughts when it came out but I found it to be pretty good. Deeper exploration of the pale than the game gives and it helps tie together a few threads lose that it had in regards to it's lore while helping contextualize a way of how they might've done a sequel. Main trio's fun to read, the flashbacks should by all means be annoying at times but they're actually very well realized, say what you will but Kurvitz really knows how to make you feel that sense of hopeless young love and the nostalgia it brings. And of course it bombed and failed so hard. It's on estonian only and the story is put in a way that if you aren't familiar with some of these concepts and world you're just gonna scratch your head thinking what the hell is even happening.

 

[Sunri]

Did you read the book, guys?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/12ysbl1/sacred_and_terrible_air_full_professional/

Yeah, gave my thoughts when it came out but I found it to be pretty good. Deeper exploration of the pale than the game gives and it helps tie together a few threads lose that it had in regards to it's lore while helping contextualize a way of how they might've done a sequel. Main trio's fun to read, the flashbacks should by all means be annoying at times but they're actually very well realized, say what you will but Kurvitz really knows how to make you feel that sense of hopeless young love and the nostalgia it brings. And of course it bombed and failed so hard. It's on estonian only and the story is put in a way that if you aren't familiar with some of these concepts and world you're just gonna scratch your head thinking what the hell is even happening.

And it's super short

 

[Heinrich]

Do drugs do anything in this game besides raising the leveling cap for skills? They seem kinda useless.

 

[jackofshadows]

Did you like expect to get high irl or what?

 

[NotSweeper]

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