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Oh you Luckmann and IHaveHugeNick , get off your high horses already. If I had a dollar for every time somebody here has used something I've said in some more or less private context against me in public, I'd ... have several dollars, enough to get that bender started with you fantadomat anyway. Hell, there's more than one example of it in this very thread.
If you come to the Codex for the lulz, knock yourself out. Just expect that sometimes the lulz are at your expense.
And never hand ammunition to someone you intend to troll later. Man was that ever a hard lesson to learn, for someone as naturally trusting as I am.
What did you spill to make our deowner so pissed? I am too lazy to read the last 5 pages . I disagree with your spoiled shit mate,if you don't give them at leat some ammunitions,it will be a boring banter. What is the worst that can happen,we are on a shitposting forum lol. It is irrelevant to the real world,thus it is harmless.
In the end i am pretty sure that will have great time drinking with junta,we just put some old communist and nazi music,will mock each other and drink ourself in to oblivion.
Sure,still didn't expect you to be that violent junta . I am well aware of our current situation and don't get pissed when a mate mocks my ideology while sitting at a table filled with food and alcohol .
I think that the game is taking the piss out of each ideology,all of the choices are extreme satire of what the real ideologies are. Communism and Fascism are equally insane while the moralists represent the typical retarded fence sitter. It is written in the way that every ideology is what in reality its opposing force thing about it,and not what its followers think.
Except the way it is "taking the piss" differs. Radically so. Some implies a genuine understanding, the other does not. There's a huge difference between exaggerating something you agree with and understand, and caricaturing something you disagree with and have no intent of understanding, and it's noticeable.
Do you really not understand the difference between a hyperbole/exaggeration regarding of subject matter and caricature/ignorance regarding subject matter? Because I have the feeling that it's not getting through to you here. Because the point is very much that it's not "on point with the reality of it".
Not really,you just see it from your ideological point of view mate . You think that the communist responds are what real communist think and that the nationalist one are taken out of proportion . Which is not true,they are all out of proportion. I laughed at them all the same. Sure in some situations one answer made more sense than the other,that doesn't make them bias. As it is one ideology makes more sense in one situation and the opposite is true in another situation.
If you were hoping for a political shitstorm, it would've been better to hope for a human/relatable depiction of historical Fascism or third-positionism, rather than the caricature that is in the game.
I was hoping for a game that actually has some mature stances adequate for modern world (both fascism and communism are pretty outdated) instead of typical, one sided virtue signalling, but instead they went for the total opposite by taking a major piss on all of them.
:I ahh no,it had just what you wanted,maybe you just can't read in between the words mate. Both of those ideologies were represented by two old dudes and the world was ruled by modern day capitalism and corruption. The game is really on point in the political shit lol.
It's on point with the reality of Revachol presented, but all the dialogue and talking points are hyperbolic to the point of being a ridiculous parody, and as such it won't spark a major political shitstorm in gaming media.
The fuck have to do a shitstrom in media with what you wanted from the game??? Also over the top...as if retarded americans don't screech this shit all the day. It is over the top because you a side watcher and could see how absurd the situation is. Many people do speak all that shit in reality.
Bah, fuck politics. The only thing that slightly annoyed me about it in this game is that sometimes I get points in politics without knowing what did I even say or do. In my second game I was going for a really hard core commie, and I already have 2 points in fascism (and 11 in communism) by the end of the first day. And I have no idea what gave those two points. Was it yelling "Welcome to Revachol!" when i kicked Measurehead in the head? Maybe, I don't know. Likewise, I suspect that even equipping some clothing is enough to give points in certain politics.
Was it yelling "Welcome to Revachol!" when i kicked Measurehead in the head? Maybe, I don't know. Likewise, I suspect that even equipping some clothing is enough to give points in certain politics.
Do you really not understand the difference between a hyperbole/exaggeration regarding of subject matter and caricature/ignorance regarding subject matter? Because I have the feeling that it's not getting through to you here. Because the point is very much that it's not "on point with the reality of it".
It is exactly the way it goes IRL. You have your big monies foreign investment torn between talkative old farts and strong arming trigger happy mercs. A bunch of workers ranging from conformist sheeple to teambuilding jocks, with a corrupt philanthropist and artsy wannabe philosophers on top. And then there's the underlying layer of racism from FAS children too stupid to know better, through typical "hollier than thou" laborers up to transcendental body aesthete and romanticizing old-guard. It's almost archetypical.
Was it yelling "Welcome to Revachol!" when i kicked Measurehead in the head? Maybe, I don't know. Likewise, I suspect that even equipping some clothing is enough to give points in certain politics.
Could be. I remember now that the racist driver also used the same line, though my character used it simply because it sounded like a good action cop superstar one-liner. I have no idea what gave me the other point though. Or what gave me moralist or liberal points in my last game. And what do those items that modify effects of political thought actually do? How exactly do they do that?
Oh you Luckmann and IHaveHugeNick , get off your high horses already. If I had a dollar for every time somebody here has used something I've said in some more or less private context against me in public, I'd ... have several dollars, enough to get that bender started with you fantadomat anyway. Hell, there's more than one example of it in this very thread.
If you come to the Codex for the lulz, knock yourself out. Just expect that sometimes the lulz are at your expense.
Me and my high horse are both amused that you thought posting those DMs is a good idea.
All you've done is you exposed yourself to the whole forum as an untrustworthy individual who's willing to post private messages to try and score cheap points. I say try to score, because the shocking reveal of "big secret" that I dislike Disco Elysium mechanics is hardly going to surprise people in this thread, who had to suffer my furious rants about the mechanics every day for the past 2 weeks.
And now you're doing a victory lap as if the whole stunt has been a stellar success, when in truth it accomplished nothing other than made yourself look like a twat.
Luckmann during the night of the long knives: these SS morons just don’t have a nuanced understanding of fascism. [he gently caresses the Strasser brothers as they bleed out] true third positionism has... never... been... tried.
Oh you Luckmann and IHaveHugeNick , get off your high horses already. If I had a dollar for every time somebody here has used something I've said in some more or less private context against me in public, I'd ... have several dollars, enough to get that bender started with you fantadomat anyway. Hell, there's more than one example of it in this very thread.
If you come to the Codex for the lulz, knock yourself out. Just expect that sometimes the lulz are at your expense.
And never hand ammunition to someone you intend to troll later. Man was that ever a hard lesson to learn, for someone as naturally trusting as I am.
That's just it, it's not a Codex thing, it's a personal observation that has proven regrettably consistent throughout my real life and potentially countless communities and situations. For whatever reason, Marxists seem particularly unable to relate to other human beings as actual human beings, should they be of opinions or convictions counter to theirs, while also having no issue accepting a hand of would-be friendship and trust, only to betray it at the first opportune moment, seemingly convinced that one who does no share their ideology cannot possibly be a good person with genuine motivations or attempt to be a friend in earnest.
I wish it wasn't so, but this pattern is disturbingly consistent. Especially disturbing since I have no trouble understanding their fundamental political motivations, because even as most Marxists are useful idiots, they are useful idiots because they believe in something better, however misguided. But when it comes to this pattern of wilful betrayal and inability to relate or empathize, this inability to project others and their motivations onto themselves and reflect upon them, instead choosing to hold on this idea of the vilified other, I just can't understand it, and it leaves me both perplexed and saddened, and I find myself slowly buying into the meme that the reason leftists got so triggered by the NPC meme was that it struck a bit too close to home.
I've seen this with no other political group or ideological subset, except perhaps once, and that guy was a socdem; while indicative of corruption, the one instance is not really enough to establish a pattern.
It's not a high horse, it's more as if I'm willing to lend you my horse as we walk together, so you may both rest and see the view, and in turn you boot me in the face and steal my horse. There's no high horses here, only mud.
And as you say, never hand ammunition to someone you intend to troll later. The thing is, I don't intend to "troll" anyone, and definitely not in a way that betrays any trust instilled. Maybe I'm just too trusting, because I feel I can be trusted, while Marxists believe their own strawmen, attributing deceit, become deceitful because they expect it, and tries to act pre-emptively on it. I dunno. It's depressing, either way.
I've seen this with no other political group or ideological subset, except perhaps once, and that guy was a socdem; while indicative of corruption, the one instance is not really enough to establish a pattern.
None of the people who have pulled these stunts on me were lefties, AFAIK anyway. Hey Darth Roxor are you a commie?
I suspect you're seeing this pattern because you're a fash and lefties don't like fash and are therefore more likely to hit you with whatever you give them. Same reason I haven't seen it from lefties. (Other than trots, FUCK those guys.)
LoL nothing new was exposed mate,he is a fucking communist,of course he will snake its way and backstab you . It is all on you mate,expecting something else from a comie lol!
I've seen this with no other political group or ideological subset, except perhaps once, and that guy was a socdem; while indicative of corruption, the one instance is not really enough to establish a pattern.
I've seen this with no other political group or ideological subset, except perhaps once, and that guy was a socdem; while indicative of corruption, the one instance is not really enough to establish a pattern.
Exactly. You see it from lefties because you're what they hate. I see it from rightoids for the same reason. People with opposed ideologies/religions/values punch each other with whatever they've got, news at 11.
I've seen this with no other political group or ideological subset, except perhaps once, and that guy was a socdem; while indicative of corruption, the one instance is not really enough to establish a pattern.
Exactly. You see it from lefties because you're what they hate. I see it from rightoids for the same reason. People with opposed ideologies/religions/values punch each other with whatever they've got, news at 11.
But you haven't seen it from me,far right nazi bastard and anarchist. I don't really pretend,all ideologies are shit,the question is that mine should rule them all!
This pretty much proves to me, that it's probably not them, but actually you. Your personal perception of said individuals is simply biased towards bunching them all together all the while claiming to understand their motivations...
This is kind of what I meant too. The internet is like a common room in a psychiatry where everyone is having a conversation with his own voices at the same time, and no one's mood matches another one's mood.
I doubt we'll ever be able to avoid this. More likely our internet language will further diverge from our offline language.
Nah junta,i am not like all the modern right wingers. I won't play your political games and all that garbage,won't fall to your level. If i decide to come for you,you will see it a mile away. I am more of a hammer to the face than dagger in the back. Still as long as society still exist i am just walking along,not one of those retards that end up shooting shit . That is all talking for real life tho,in the codex i really couldn't care less. It is place for shitposting and overreacting . Don't know about beer,but wouldn't mind throwing a political banter over a bottle of rakija and nice salad .
You: posting tirades on unimportant bullshit, like politics.
Me, an intellectual: just got a bug where Harry's shirt disappears and refuses to come back on, so I have him prancing around Martinaise, his chest hair showing proud.
The fascination with isms goes hand in hand with a belief in one's own intellectual and moral superiority over the majority. This line of thinking goes back to the French revolution, traces of it can be seen in antiquity I guess.
. I disagree with your spoiled shit mate,if you don't give them at leat some ammunitions,it will be a boring banter. What is the worst that can happen,we are on a shitposting forum lol. It is irrelevant to the real world,thus it is harmless.
