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Hyperion

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When every game you churn out sells millions of copies, it's probably sensible to think you're dong what fans want.

Bethesda fans like bad games.

The diehards will purchase anything the company makes. Having the money to advertise Conan O'Brien pretending to play and make stupid jokes about said bad game is how you really sell copies of the game.

What better (read: only) way to get people to like Fallout 4 than get people who have no past experience with the series?
 

Zeriel

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I wonder if developers who read these forums take the criticisms seriously or are just like "Ah, *those* guys; they always hate on everything, so who cares?".

Any dev who's been around for awhile has learned to separate bullshit from useful criticism.

David Gaider and the entirety of Bethesda prove otherwise.

When every game you churn out sells millions of copies, it's probably sensible to think you're dong what fans want.

Bethesda fans like bad games.

I wasn't really talking about whether they're right or not, just that they are examples of people who have been in the industry a long time and have never developed thick skins whatsoever, to the point that an entire company blacklisted this domain.
 

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Codex 2014
http://www.pcgamesn.com/what-do-you-want-to-know-about-divinity-original-sin-2

Divinity: Original Sin 2 is a very exciting game full of all sorts of new ideas. We should know, because we’ve played it! We recently visited Larian Studios in Ghent, Belgium where we got to go hands-on for more than six hours with the latest build of the game, and we can’t wait to tell you all about it.

You’ll be able to read our impressions soon, but we want to make sure the feature answers as many questions as possible. That’s where you come in. Do you have a burning desire for new information? Curious about a certain gameplay element you’ve seen teased? Let us know your questions in the comments, and we’ll do our best to answer them, as well as tell you about the things you haven’t even dreamed of yet.

Six hours, huh. I guess that will give them better and bigger coverage than previews during crowded Gamescom.
 

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Codex 2014
The update is here, talking about new character system: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/larianstudios/divinity-original-sin-2/posts/1650167



Update #25: Character Creation, Stats & Larian On Tour!

You push open the door, rusted hinges groaning. As your eyes start to adjust, you can see shapes in the darkness. Shambling, hunched bodies, peering at dim screens and tapping keyboards with overgrown claws. One by one their cold, dead eyes turn to look at you. As you start to back away they surge forward, crawling to freedom. One of them grabs your boots, stares up at you and says-

Hi, and welcome to Kickstarter Update #25! Although we've been pretty quiet on Kickstarter for the last while, it's been one hell of a summer for Larian. We've poured blood, sweat, tears, and about five metric tons of caffeine into Divinity: Original Sin 2. But, as we're slowly creeping out of our Dev Cave and back into the sunlight, we all think we've got something really special here.

Here's Swen to explain why August is going to be so important to us, and why (we think) it will make you very, very happy.


New Character Development System
When it comes to jumping into a videogame, there are generally two schools of thought: 1. “I just want to play the game! Don’t force me to make a character - oh God, there are how many hairstyles to choose from?!” And 2. “Yeah, okay, so my character’s a barbarian - great, but which mountain tribe is he from? Does he worship the sun or goats? Can I have his beard length in millimetres, please?”

Personally, we love both of these players. The ones who want to dive into the story as quickly as possible, and the ones who want to start creating their own story before they even see the first loading screen. With the character creation engine we've whipped up for Divinity: Original Sin 2’s, we think we’ll appeal to both breeds of player.

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When you sit down to create a character in Divinity: Original Sin 2, you don't just choose a class or a hairstyle - you choose a life. (Or, if you prefer, you make your own.)

Here's what you’ll be able to customize:
  • Origin Stories: You’ll have a choice of several origin stories, each one a pre-made past for your character, which will ground them in the world you’re exploring. You might meet people who’ve heard of your story, or suffered a similar fate. You might meet some old friends to help you on your way, or cross paths with those who have a score to settle. The origin stories bring a rich, deep narrative to the game, which compliments the world and gives you lots more options for how you can interact with the people around you.

    Of course, if you’d rather tell your own story too, that’s no problem. That’s why we have…
  • Tags: Tags are the background information about your character which you (mostly…) set at character creation. They cover your background, your profession, your race, your gender, and even how you interact with the world. Tags give your characters depth and variety, meaning that even if you start with a “Blank Slate” character, they’ll still explore the world and interact with it in their own unique way.

  • Musical Instruments: One of the new features in Divinity: Original Sin 2 will be the addition of personalized music for your character. Choose an instrument at character creation, and at certain pivotal points in the game, your character’s theme (played on your instrument of choice) will start to dynamically blend into the music of the world.

  • Race: Tired of being a boring old human? Step into the scales of a lizard of the Ancient Empire; see which is tougher: an elf’s bark or its bite; take up the crossbow of an Imperial dwarf; or dust off the bones of an undead warrior.

  • Appearance: Tweak your appearance with more visual choice than ever!

  • Gender: As with everything in Divinity: Original Sin 2, people’s views of your chosen gender will affect how they interact with you. Will their expectations clash with your own? How will other cultures view you? How will you view them?

  • Skills: Choose from a set of skills in a pre-made class, or design your own! Don’t want to be a barbarian or inquisitor? Create your own class, be it PyroWitch, NecroRogue, or WarriorChef!
New Stat System

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As Nick explained in the video, he has been diligently overhauling and re-working our stats for Divinity: Original Sin 2. The stats we are currently working and playing with are-

Memory:
Memory is a new stat (and the one Nick is most excited about!). It takes Memory to memorize skills ... and only a limited amount of skills can be memorized at any one time. Your magical library will build skill by skill throughout the game, so investing in Memory will make you more flexible and adaptive on the battlefield. More powerful skills also demand a higher level of memory, so you’ll need to elegantly balance your available Memory against your combat needs. But don’t worry, you can always access skill selection outside of combat.

Strength:
Strength helps fighters with melee weapons. It makes it easier to wear heavy armor, and improves warfare skills.

Finesse:
Finesse is for those who want to use bows, crossbows and daggers - the rogues, the rangers, all those sneaky folks. It improves hunting abilities, rogue abilities and gives a chance to dodge.

Intelligence:
Intelligence mostly helps mages. It improves the power of staffs, wands and most elemental skills.

Constitution:
Constitution is useful for vitality. Sage Nick says you should never skip upgrading it, as it can make your life a lot easier (and hopefully longer).

Wits:
Wits boost critical chance, helping to reveal secrets and traps and allowing you to maneuver more skilfully in tricky social situations. Wits also determine initiative and help with persuasion.

Secondary Attributes:

Physical Armor

  • Physical Armor protects from physical damage. One Physical Armor point absorbs one point of physical damage.
  • As long as Physical Armor is above zero, physical statuses like Knocked Down, Crippled, and Bleeding will not take effect.
  • Physical Armor automatically regenerates out of combat.
Magic Armor

  • Magic Armor protects from elemental damage; i.e. damage from fire, water, air, earth or poison. One Magic Armor point absorbs one point of elemental damage. Elemental resistances apply before armor protection is applied.
  • As long as Magic Armor is above zero, magical statuses like Stun or Burning will not take effect.
  • Magic Armor automatically regenerates out of combat.
Memory Slots

  • Memory Slots determine the number and quality of skills you can use at the same time.
  • It is possible to learn every skill that you encounter in-game, but you can only keep a handful of them active at the same time. Outside of combat, characters can organize their active skills to prepare for their next encounter. The more powerful the skill is, the more Memory Slots required.
Larian on Tour

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Our designer Slava and producer David presenting to Russian press in Moscow.


After the excitement of PAX East in April, our team have been getting itchy feet again! It’s time for us to head out into the world to show our game and make some friends. To that end, we have team members from each of our studios flying all over the world to spread the good news over the next month.

Gamescom
Yes, we’ll be at Gamescom in Köln, Germany! You can visit us at Hall 2.2. We’ll be doing some press demos there, so if you want to book a slot, please contact us at press@larian.com. Space is limited so be fast...you don't want to miss this one.

Press Tours
You can expect TONS of coverage over the next few weeks as we’re launching a worldwide press tour bonanza, with members from each Larian office and discipline flying all over the world to show our game to key press in the US, the UK, Russia, Germany, France and the Benelux.

PAX West
We’ll be at PAX West! Come say “Hello!” to us, play Divinity: Original Sin 2, see Swen and the team and snag some awesome merch. We will have some really cool Divine Order t-shirts and Divinity lanyards. If you plan to drop by, you can also expect live game demos of the campaign from Swen (and some exciting surprises). And of course you'll be able to fight each other in our ever-improving Arena.

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PAX Dev
How do you make a cRPG where you give players plenty of freedom while still letting them experience a powerful narrative, and where you let them play with or against each other? And how do you ensure it feels great in single player?

Well, if you’re a developer planning to attend PAX Dev, take note! Swen will be speaking on “Making Narrative Work in a Multiplayer cRPG” on September 1st at 10.30am in the Grand II Hall. He's talked about this before but now he can finally show everything and it'll make your head spin. The talk will come with plenty of real examples from Divinity: Original Sin 2.

Not enough?

Sure, you know how character creation works, and we'll be revealing a lot in the coming weeks, but what if you have specific questions? Maybe you want to know the precise range of a crossbow vs a bow? The exact hem and cut of Bishop Alexandar's robe? What do the rats think of what's going on?

We can't go into that sort of detail in an update, but PC Games N have racked up six hours of gameplay, and they'd love to answer your questions! Head over to the article at PCGamesN.com to ask whatever you like about Divinity: Original Sin 2. Fingers crossed you'll get an answer when their review goes live.

Shout Outs: The Kieron Picks!
We asked our writer/designer/graphic wizard/game presenter Kieron what he was excited by on Kickstarter and this is what he came back with.

This is fine...



Game development in a nutshell

You know the way game development goes? It goes fine. Everything's fine. The coding will all be finished. That weird bug that turns your team into crabs will be fixed. All the accidentally offensive typos in the dialog will be corrected. It's fine. Everything's fine. And what better way to sum up how totally and absolutely fine everything is than a cute dog plushy?



Because stuff's fine, folks. It's all absolutely, totally, tear-inducingly fine.



Codex Silenda: The Book of Puzzles




The other thing that Kieron drew our attention to was this intriguing project. A book that you have to physically puzzle your way through before you can read the next page - this looks like a beautiful melding of engineering and art!

So...
That's all from us right now. But we really do mean it when we say "right now", because we hope to bombard you with a lot of exciting news over the coming weeks.

This is a really important time for us - it's the first time we're letting anyone else look at what we've been working on for the past year. Normally this would be an incredibly nerve-wracking experience for the whole team, but the more we've been looking at the game with fresh eyes, the more okay we feel about that.

There's a lot about this game that we really, really love, and that means we don't have to work nearly as hard to present it. All we need to do is step back and let it shine.

Of course there's still a lot of work ahead, but we've come a long way, and we're very, very excited to share all that we've done with you.
 

Arkeus

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I'm not sure I am a fan of the idea of Memorization given that Hybrids were already not too strong in D:OS when they could actually put points in STR/INT, so I'm hoping it's not as simple as it sounds.
 

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Project: Eternity Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
This game looks sooo good. I'm in love with these guys, this game. Can't wait to play it.
 

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I'm not sure I am a fan of the idea of Memorization given that Hybrids were already not too strong in D:OS when they could actually put points in STR/INT, so I'm hoping it's not as simple as it sounds.
Everyone is a D&D Wizard. I'm not sure I like it either :/

I suggested on the KS page to make Memory points to be spent at the encounter, rather than between them. Makes for fewer menu trips, better minmaxing.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire
I hope they got rid of the AP penalty for using higher level weapons. Everything else looks great though.
 
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We're interviewing one of the producers at Gamescom. If you still have any open questions at this point, post them here.
 

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Codex Year of the Donut Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Thrilling stuff.

With these streams they usually invite their guests to stay for the entire duration and commentate on other stuff etc. The D:OS 2 segment will only be a part of it.
 
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To force people to watch the hosts talk.
 

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