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Dominions Decline 11: The Grimgrinch vs Christmas
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sqeecoo
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Dim, your last charge out of the capitol fort was heroic 
My pale ones salute your bravery, and your guys truly died like... male(?) fish forest creatures? In any case, you played a good game from being fucked over hard by the map at the start, and were the first to eliminate a player. Well done.
My pale ones salute your bravery, and your guys truly died like... male(?) fish forest creatures? In any case, you played a good game from being fucked over hard by the map at the start, and were the first to eliminate a player. Well done.
Huh. I honestly thought you did it to overtake Vanheim's provinces and cockblock my slowpoke invasion. To protect the elves. Shows what I know.
Also, DRAMA!
KoolNoodles
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I feel I must defend myself in the court of dominions.
I guess I must have a different definition of alliance than you Isiloon . That's right, alliance, not NAP, not peace, not whatever....an alliance. You didn't see me attacking Abysia did you? Same deal. Want to renegotiate? Then fine, I would have been all ears. If you want to break it, break it like a man, not like a backstabbing opportunist. Even after you attacked into me on your retreat from Niefelheim, killing a blood hunter, etc., I sealed up that border because....you know.....allies!
To your points:
1) See above.
2) Obviously that was hyperbole.
3) You were right on board with everyone else because your expansion sucked and you needed allies(woops). As for the "backing out", well three other wars tends to do that. Doesn't nullify the alliance.
4) Stupid.
5) Yes of course, have to threaten you because you already showed you were erratic.
6) Uhh....so that you wouldn't get stomped? He was about to sail over to your capital.
7) Stupid.
...yes, that's also more or less the answer you'll be receiving in future diplo exchanges with... more or less anyone I think 
...dis thread.
...dis thread.
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you forgot the part where you said "if you don't agree I destroy you" in the same text, then threatened me again later.
regarding your triple war against other people, this isn't relevant to me - the terms of our agreement was to fight to the death and you did not deliver this, you focused on self preservation instead - leaving Abysia and myself to fend for ourselves, while you went on to fight a weaker opponent for self gain.
my definition of alliance includes not threatening your allies to get what you want, even if you are stronger than them.
your alliance with Abysia was exactly the same structure - in short, you never had allies, you had vassals and now it's time for me to break free from the shackles of your oppression. When you threaten me, it makes me crave for revenge.
why would I negotiate with you, when you have nothing to offer me - I want your forts and your land.
regarding your triple war against other people, this isn't relevant to me - the terms of our agreement was to fight to the death and you did not deliver this, you focused on self preservation instead - leaving Abysia and myself to fend for ourselves, while you went on to fight a weaker opponent for self gain.
my definition of alliance includes not threatening your allies to get what you want, even if you are stronger than them.
your alliance with Abysia was exactly the same structure - in short, you never had allies, you had vassals and now it's time for me to break free from the shackles of your oppression. When you threaten me, it makes me crave for revenge.
why would I negotiate with you, when you have nothing to offer me - I want your forts and your land.
Dreaad
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Wait a minute! I was threatened by Mictlan?! I don't think KoolNoodles and me have ever even fought in any dom game
In fact it's impossible for him to threaten me for a long while yet due to circumstances
In fact it's impossible for him to threaten me for a long while yet due to circumstances
I should really stop shouting about my intentions to everybody.
KN, you are a devious bastard, if I ever saw one. I never thought you used to have a full-scale alliance with Lanka. Well, at least you're not allied with Atlanits in D10. I'm pretty sure of it.
Pretty. Sure. hm
KoolNoodles
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Dreaad
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By the way everyone. Agartha betrayed me!! He is a traitor!!
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you can't trust anyone in this game.
Grimwulf breaks NaPs - twice (nobody cares until they're the victim)
KN sets up wars with enslaved 'allies' and then backs out of them
Lanka says "dont worry" then kills unprepared jaguars
Agartha switches alliances and destroys coalition
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he said if you don't agree to my terms I will attack you immediately in the same message he offered an 'alliance'
I'd rather be eliminated then be controlled by threat of war. So when I get some diplomacy like "do X or I kill you" it means that you will be my enemy when it's convenient for me.
Dreaad
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Oh, yeah, I think that was aimed at you. We had a previous arrangement.
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Either way, allies don't make threats of war to sway others.
Then continue making more threats when you have like 10 provinces with no army there, separated from your mainland and blocked by strong nations you have a NaP/war with, brilliant strategy.
You had it coming KN.
Then continue making more threats when you have like 10 provinces with no army there, separated from your mainland and blocked by strong nations you have a NaP/war with, brilliant strategy.
You had it coming KN.
Dayyālu
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I don't understand what's going on any longer. Someone care to explain or to post a map of what's happening? The insanity of it defies belief.
I mean, I do act angrily and hastily too, but who the fuck is fighting who. Nothing makes sense anymore.
And Dim,. You were a lamb sent to the lions. But you got a bite or two before the jaws closed.
Jeeez
Like, didn't I tell ya hundreds of times that KoolNoodles respects treaties as far as they do not inconvenience him directly? You should have read the diplo he sends to me when he's in a weaker position.
Poetry, I say. Poetry. Until he finds a rock big enough.
I mean, I do act angrily and hastily too, but who the fuck is fighting who. Nothing makes sense anymore.
And Dim,
. You were a lamb sent to the lions. But you got a bite or two before the jaws closed.Jeeez
Like, didn't I tell ya hundreds of times that KoolNoodles respects treaties as far as they do not inconvenience him directly? You should have read the diplo he sends to me when he's in a weaker position.
Poetry, I say. Poetry. Until he finds a rock big enough.
sqeecoo
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My tipsy recap of the stuff so far:
Theodoros and Oceania declare war on turn 1. Oceania wins, but is invaded by Grimwulf while weak, with terrible Nifel SCs. Pays him off, but is badly bruised due to that and early war. Still, good position of the can be left alone UW - two capitols is nothing to sneeze at.
Grimwulf boasts about his victories there and against Abysia on a consensual battle over a throne, alliance starts to form against him led by Koolnoodles and his allies Lanka and Abysia, but they have NAPs until turn 36. Agartha has NAP with Grimwulf till turn 30 only, and he honorably declares he will attack on turn 30. On turn 30 Agartha and Nifel are officially at war, but Nifel has ethereal giant SCs not even Living Mercuries can kill, and Agartha has tons of troops Nifel won't be able to siege through, so Nifel offers peace and alliance against Mictlan with TNN and Vanheim. Agartha (questionably) accepts.
Lanka, Abysia, and Mictlan fight Nifelheim, but Mictlan is hit hard by the Nifel-TNN-Agartha-Van alliance. One by one, people back out from the war with Nifel. Lanka is left alone, and there's this weird series of moves which leaves Nifel cut off from fighting Lanka by Mictlan and Abysia taking Lanka's territories at their border - from what I understood.
Agartha (having gotten a corridor to the big lake, which was my only desire really but I fucked up in early-day expansion) and Nifelheim sign peace with Mictlan, TNN and Van continue the fight. TNN at least seems to be loosing, on the whole, but wins some battles when stalling.
Agartha beats up poor Oceania. Vanheim and Nifel have some sort of quarrel over an indy province, terminate NAP and go to war. Mictlan happy, but gets backstabbed by Lanka who signed peace with Nifel, losing a ton of jaguars. Abysia giggles from the sidelines.
Current wars:
Agartha - Oceania
Nifelheim - Vanheim
Vanheim, TNN - Mictlan
Lanka - Mictlan
Again, this is my limited drunk info. I'm not diploing heavily this game since it's supposed to be fast-paced, but some asshole asked for slower turns so now it's slow.
Theodoros and Oceania declare war on turn 1. Oceania wins, but is invaded by Grimwulf while weak, with terrible Nifel SCs. Pays him off, but is badly bruised due to that and early war. Still, good position of the can be left alone UW - two capitols is nothing to sneeze at.
Grimwulf boasts about his victories there and against Abysia on a consensual battle over a throne, alliance starts to form against him led by Koolnoodles and his allies Lanka and Abysia, but they have NAPs until turn 36. Agartha has NAP with Grimwulf till turn 30 only, and he honorably declares he will attack on turn 30. On turn 30 Agartha and Nifel are officially at war, but Nifel has ethereal giant SCs not even Living Mercuries can kill, and Agartha has tons of troops Nifel won't be able to siege through, so Nifel offers peace and alliance against Mictlan with TNN and Vanheim. Agartha (questionably) accepts.
Lanka, Abysia, and Mictlan fight Nifelheim, but Mictlan is hit hard by the Nifel-TNN-Agartha-Van alliance. One by one, people back out from the war with Nifel. Lanka is left alone, and there's this weird series of moves which leaves Nifel cut off from fighting Lanka by Mictlan and Abysia taking Lanka's territories at their border - from what I understood.
Agartha (having gotten a corridor to the big lake, which was my only desire really but I fucked up in early-day expansion) and Nifelheim sign peace with Mictlan, TNN and Van continue the fight. TNN at least seems to be loosing, on the whole, but wins some battles when stalling.
Agartha beats up poor Oceania. Vanheim and Nifel have some sort of quarrel over an indy province, terminate NAP and go to war. Mictlan happy, but gets backstabbed by Lanka who signed peace with Nifel, losing a ton of jaguars. Abysia giggles from the sidelines.
Current wars:
Agartha - Oceania
Nifelheim - Vanheim
Vanheim, TNN - Mictlan
Lanka - Mictlan
Again, this is my limited drunk info. I'm not diploing heavily this game since it's supposed to be fast-paced, but some asshole asked for slower turns so now it's slow.
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you can't trust anyone in this game.
Grimwulf breaks NaPs - twice (nobody cares until they're the victim)
KN sets up wars with enslaved 'allies' and then backs out of them
Lanka says "dont worry" then kills unprepared jaguars
Agartha switches alliances and destroys coalition
cat in the back looks like hitler!
Dreaad
Arcane
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