What considerable economic loss are we talking about? Slight unrest experienced by everybody, Niefelheim included? Theoretically harder blood hunting for everybody, Niefelheim included? Or 1-2 random attacks of winter wolves every turn? Not even kidding. It's never more than 2 on this map, usually 1. I get attacked by indies more often than other players are attacked by winter wolves, and I play with Luck 1!
If you speak about Cold 3 - I don't even care if it's some sort of etiquette breaching or not. People think they can attack me whenever they want, coz I can't fight back anyway, becuase of their Heat 2-3. It results in me being really gud at defending myself (the only reason I'm still alive); people losing their armies; and Agartha taking all the spoils of war. Well, that's no longer the case. Now everything is Cold 3, and whoever attacks me, starts losing their shit.
If Mictlan attacks - I'll conquer his provinces faster than he will blink. Same with Lanka, who already moves his forces towards Niefelheim. It's a self-defensive measure for a nation that was being ganged since the start of the game, without a chance to have a break. Of course, in the end it won't make a difference. People will keep jumping on Niefel, I'll keep kicking their arses, Agartha will keep conquering free shit until they win the game.
It's just offending me, ffs. In Decline 3 sqeecoo had to claw his way to victory - sure, his enemies were criminally passive, and could prevent Agartha's victory on several occasions. But at least this victory was well-deserved. Agartha had a bunch of difficult wars, and emerged victorious fair and square. Here? It's just a free score. Nobody even resisting. Despite having basically the same players (KN, Joined) who made THE SAME MISTAKE IN D3 ALREADY, everyone's either ignoring Agartha, or fucking tries to ally with Agartha against Niefelheim - what? Just how blind are you, people? The whole game is like a Kafkaesque dialogue.
- Agartha is strong and dangerous in lategame; Niefelheim is only strong early on.
- Yeah, let's all pile up on Niefel and get screwed, while he is strong. Let's ignore Agartha.
- Come on, men. You've lost. Leave me alone, Agartha has basically won the game, while you kept me busy.
- Nah, man - u r a dick. Better attack you again, and let Agartha win. Coz you know. You have more globals than me or some random stupid reason, who cares.
- LOOK AT THE SCORE GRAPHS, you eyefuckers! Look at the research. What other proof do you need?
- ILLWINTER IS A BREACH OF ETIQUETTE, I DON'T CARE ABOUT REASON OR LOGIC ANYMORE! I WILL NOW LET MY INNER ISILOON MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS FOR ME!
Isn't D10 a perfect proof that if I'm left alone, I don't attack everything nearby like a madman? I'm pretty tranquil, in fact.
Hurrrrrr, YES! EXACTLY MY POINT! Will somebody PLEASE try to fight Agartha ONCE, before he claims a free victory? Failing that, will people PLEASE give me a single goddamn break from constantly being attacked, so that I can at least make it a tiny bit challenging for Agartha?
What is wrong with all you?
Oh, you gotta be shittin me. YOU were the one who was supposed to attack TC, which you lost to Vanheim. I waited on the borders, doing nothing. Wating for you. Then waiting more. Like I thought, "Well, the poor guy is probably busy with Lanka, being stabbed like that. But he will come, eventually. Meanwhile, I gotta endure Vanheim's constant aggression". But you seemed fine with this situation - Vanheim keeps attacking me; I can't retaliate because of agreement with you.
Then you stopped replying in diplo.
Then I thought, "fuck it - I'll besiege TC, so that fucking Vanheim gets some payback at least; Mictlan can come up later". You probably don't know this, but TC's insides are packed with shit. I will never break the walls even with mercs. And I really don't feel like sending my armies there, apart from symbolic number of Frost Fiends.
Still waiting for Mictlan. No sights of Mictlan armies on the borders. Still no replies in diplo.
Finally, Mictlan sends an answer. Not in diplo, tho - in the main thread instead. He threatens to violate the NAP and attack Niefelheim. Just. Great.
So far I have 0,5 caps, and it won't change anytime soon.
I certainly don't feel like my victory is inevitable at all, in fact I feel a bit terrified from not knowing what to do. So I think a solid argument can be made that Nifelheim is a greater threat, whether true or not. But I'm biased, of course 
