Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Shadenuat]

Sera really looks like something from a nightmare on many pictures, I'm afraid to guess what she injected her lips with.

 

[Jick Magger]

Is this really how gay men and women want to be "represented" in video games? Like freaks?
Shame on you, Bioware.

Also, every NPC has mascara like Vegas hookers.
Sluts! Sluts, all of them!

Let's take a quick look at ME3 and the proper romanceable gay (i.e. not bisexual) characters they added:

Steve: exists solely to rebound on Shepard after losing his husband

Samantha: exists solely to act as a rug for Shepard to munch on. Can't even remember what she does in the game.

So yes, to Bioware gay characters aren't 'people' so much as meat puppets for the player to enact their fantasies upon.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Not to mention that as far as racial diversity goes they just throw in a couple of recoloured white people as mulattoes or murrican blacks. In a perfect world I could have an older buff Maori warrior, a fat Bengali mystic and a famished Nilotic sorcerer guy with a huge family in my party but oh no that would just be too much fun and would take work as you can't just reuse the default models for everyone.

Western game, 9 companions, 5 are "white" only one of which is a human.
So essentially there is 1 white human out of the 4 possible human companions. (And she's pretty swarthy at that.)
Yeah, so whitewashing, MUH RACIAL DIVERSITY!!

Sera really looks like something from a nightmare on many pictures, I'm afraid to guess what she injected her lips with.

She's a quadroon, even moar racial diversity!

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

If you love RPGs (not just CRPGs), you'll probably end up playing vast majority of Bioware's games. The thing is, they mostly get it. They might fuck up some things, but they still get the idea what's this shit all about. There's no nuBioware, two people who wrote BG are still there, another two people who were there since the company started are still there and the creative lead of the game is there for more than a decade... They're still the same, every game just has their signature all over.

For me, there's always something enjoyable in their games. Bits and pieces, little stories, specific gameplay mechanics etc.

DA2 is better than DAO

 

[Volourn]

"you don't really have any actual C&C in the game either."

Flat out lie.


"DA2 is barely above the TES which aren't exactly known for the quality of their dialogue system."

r u retarted?

 

[Nikaido]

"you don't really have any actual C&C in the game either."

Flat out lie.

There is about as much C&C to the choice of siding with the templar vs mage as there was in Skyrim to side with Imperials vs Stormcloaks. Which is to say, it's entirely cosmetic and doesn't affect anything. The entire game is like that.

"DA2 is barely above the TES which aren't exactly known for the quality of their dialogue system."

r u retarted?

No, but you must clearly be. Anyone who loves NWN probably has a case of the crazies anyway.

 

[Volourn]

"The entire game is like that."

No.

DAS2 has more C&C than vast majority of CRPGs. If you think it didn't have any you did not play it, or are flat out lying.

 

[DalekFlay]

There is about as much C&C to the choice of siding with the templar vs mage as there was in Skyrim to side with Imperials vs Stormcloaks. Which is to say, it's entirely cosmetic and doesn't affect anything. The entire game is like that.

The best part was that both have the same exact ending, and both factions turn evil in the end to facilitate that. Honestly I think Skyrim had more C&C, which is fucking saying something.

 

[Xu Fugui]

Not to mention that as far as racial diversity goes they just throw in a couple of recoloured white people as mulattoes or murrican blacks. In a perfect world I could have an older buff Maori warrior, a fat Bengali mystic and a famished Nilotic sorcerer guy with a huge family in my party but oh no that would just be too much fun and would take work as you can't just reuse the default models for everyone.

Western game, 9 companions, 5 are "white" only one of which is a human.
So essentially there is 1 white human out of the 4 possible human companions. (And she's pretty swarthy at that.)
Yeah, so whitewashing, MUH RACIAL DIVERSITY!!

Now tell me how many Asians you see.

Anyway, my point is that for all their hyped up DIVERSITY they don't actually do anything interesting with it. The entire cast could be white for all I care, would make sense considering that they live in a pseudo medieval world and they don't have the same travelling capabilities we have today so the ethnic make up would be more homogeneous than the societies of today. The importance of family, tradition would also be much higher since the society would have to be largely agricultural because it's pre-industrialization times but let's not get into that.

Anyhow, both in terms of storytelling and in visuals race can be used to great effect if handled by someone with skill. It can add flavour, different races could be associated with different traditions in the lore, the differences between peoples could be a root of conflict, why do these people look different than those? Were they conquered? etc. the possibilities are endless. When Bioware decided to appeal to the SJW DIVERSITY crowd they just re-skinned the standard muscular white male/woman with a darker hue in the earlier games and made an ugly face model in the newer one, it's never brought up in the game and for some strange reason they seem to be written by suburban dorks who hardly ever travels and practically never outside their nation's borders.

Now if I was a Bioware writer I would have made that bearded Clegane clone gay instead ( I think he's named The Wall), I would then have asked a number of questions. What does this mean in the society he lives in? The order he's a part of? If this is a feudal society then what importance does his bloodline have? Does being gay mean something in a society where heritage is everything in the social order? What does he think is important and why? Does he have any prejudice towards anyone? How has his childhood affected him? etc, you get the gist of it. Race, sexuality and build can be used as base characteristics and when make your character and used when you flesh him out, variety in those also adds neat visuals (not the sexuality one tho). Bioware never really fleshes them out to begin with. If they are gay they're basically a stereotypical fucktube for the player to "romance" and any flavour added to that is puddle deep.

Well, it's both that and the fact that they are so utterly unimaginative when they want to insert people other than whites. There's so many more peoples and cultures than you and your shitty pretend blacks, frog kwans.

 

[dryan]

No cripples, no fatties, no geezers.... and yet no fuckable people either. I may pass up on this one if they don't add any good looking characters.

 

[Jaesun]

People arguing with Volo...

 

[Delterius]

That said, I never understood Codexers who play the game 5 times all the while whining how it's irredeemable shit, I can't decide whether they're masochists or just hypocrites.

I did this. I finished DA2 eight times and I hated it. I did it because I had nothing else to do for days. My alternative was to stare at walls or read books, and books are for faggots.

You went beyond the seven times meme and expect us to believe you actually hated the game?

I played it for the romance.

The BSN robbed me of all ability to tell if this is for real or not.

 

[dryan]

That said, I never understood Codexers who play the game 5 times all the while whining how it's irredeemable shit, I can't decide whether they're masochists or just hypocrites.

I did this. I finished DA2 eight times and I hated it. I did it because I had nothing else to do for days. My alternative was to stare at walls or read books, and books are for faggots.

You went beyond the seven times meme and expect us to believe you actually hated the game?

I played it for the romance.

The BSN robbed me of all ability to tell if this is for real or not.

Well it certainly wasn't for the combat, the story or the lore.

 

[Excidium]

I wanted to bang the pirate gipsy chick but couldn't be arsed to play long enough

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Spoiler

You get Syphilis and die, prompting game over screen. (Like fucking Morinth in ME2)

 

[Tom Selleck]

If a character looks like a human (but is maybe short or tall or has a dumb haircut or maybe wider set eyes or whatever) and is presented with genetically appropriate (re: fuckable by humans) anatomy, is it really a 'non-human race?' Like, if it looks, talks, walks and fucks like a human, why bother calling it anything else? These companions are so fucking boring. Even DAO had Wynne, let's get some (sexable this time, fuck you Samara) MILFs in this shit.

The only thing that DA2 that I liked more than DAO (that's not true, there's a couple things) is that Queernaris aren't just gray human dudes with cornrows now.

 

[Excidium]

Yeah the quanari redesign is an improvement, the females are p. hot

Even DAO had Wynne, let's get some (sexable this time, fuck you Samara) MILFs in this shit.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Tom Selleck The races actually looked different in DA2,

Spoiler

or at least they were supposed to.(Dwarf design doesn't seem to have been implemented.) The shit eating biodrones started crying up a storm when they found that they (naturally)weren't attracted to "alien" or non-human features. So in the end they're getting just what they wanted, which was for every race(Save qunari I guess) to look like humans with different ears/heights.

As for the qunari design being one of the things that DA2 did better, I'd apply that to most/if not all of the designs and probably the art in general.

 

[Jick Magger]

Don't really like Bioware's fantasy armor designs, look far too 'anime-esque' for my tastes. Might just be because I've been spoiled by the armor designs from The Witcher which focus more on realism/watching too much Game of Thrones.

Which is weird, because their sci-fi armor designs from ME2/3 were actually pretty good. Only real complaint being the completely idiotic move to make the pre-order bonus armors cover the head, which means I'll never wear it because I actually want to see the face that I spent the past 20 minutes autistically sculpting.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

"Different standards of beauty", yet all the females on that concept art follow the modern standard of beauty (the dwarven woman is just shorter). At least they look different in game.

 

[DalekFlay]

The shit eating biodrones started crying up a storm when they found that they (naturally)weren't attracted to "alien" or non-human features. So in the end they're getting just what they wanted, which was for every race(Save qunari I guess) to look like humans with different ears/heights.

As for the qunari design being one of the things that DA2 did better, I'd apply that to most/if not all of the designs and probably the art in general.

All of this is spot-on. One of the few things DA2 did right was making the world look more unique, more alien. I loved the elf look in that game, very alien and otherworldly. Fucking asshats who want everything to look like medieval Britain fuck up everything for everybody else.

At least DA:I seems to be colorful.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

inb4 screencaps of low-res background NPCs.

 

[tuluse]

"Different standards of beauty", yet all the females on that concept art follow the modern standard of beauty (the dwarven woman is just shorter). At least they look different in game.

They did make the elves look emaciated in DA2.

 

[Angthoron]

"Different standards of beauty", yet all the females on that concept art follow the modern standard of beauty (the dwarven woman is just shorter). At least they look different in game.

They did make the elves look emaciated in DA2.

And I just noticed the human female's legs in that concept picture. Wow, what the hell kind of a genetic disease is that?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Looks like Liefelditis.

Also, just noticed the horns on the qunari female, nicely settled on top of the hair so she doesn't look ugly like the male. They remind me of something...

Spoiler