Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Kem0sabe]

Was watching the latest 14m gameplay video again and everything about it bothers me, like the fully armored woman being tortured, her strangling a guy who is also fully armored, the fact that she looks like she has come off a high end armor modeling gig with makeup included, the dialogue not reflecting what you actually choose from the dialogue wheel, the ridiculous POV and FOV, the pop-a-mole combat, the color saturation of the graphics... it's more like mass effect than ever before, with everything dramatized to the extreme for added cinematic effect.

 

[Harold]

One interesting DAO encounter (against a non-monster opponent) I remember was that female dwarf mob boss (can't remember her name), she had traps laid beforehand, used stealth, switched between melee and ranged attacks, constantly was on the move etc.

Jarvia. One of the very, very few interesting encounters in DAO. Too bad that it was preceded by a shitton of trash mobs in the worst dungeon ever. Seriously, for me, the Carta hideout is tied with the Brecillian ruins for worst trash-mob-fest ever. I have no idea why people usually reserve all their hate for the Derp Roads - those at least had encounter variety and interesting lore entries spread throughout to keep you going, as opposed to, you know, MOAR DWARF THUGS/SKELINGTONS!

 

[Xenich]

Polyamory? Really Bioware? It's not enough to deal with one whiny therapist session but forming triads with ugly hambeasts and emaciatated weebs is your goal now? Sex is only for procreation, missionary only with the lights off like the good book says. Next thing you know it'll be animals and then bacteria. God, the republicans were right, society is fucked if this is the future.

Ride the Bull? Or Debby Does Dallas? Debby, yes.

Yes, because anyone who doesn't approve of sticking their sexual appendage in peoples excrement hole or fantasizing about having sex with animals, well... they are a prude! A healthy sexual attitude it one that includes all forms of such acts with man, woman, beasts, and children. Anything less would be considered uptight and sexually repressive! /sarc

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

Lady Cauthrien, Howe, Logain, Branka

Meh, those were all boring HP spounges with inflated stats. One interesting DAO encounter (against a non-monster opponent) I remember was that female dwarf mob boss (can't remember her name), she had traps laid beforehand, used stealth, switched between melee and ranged attacks, constantly was on the move etc.

i did not mean that they were great fights only that DAO had fuckton encounters against average humans and lot of "human" bosses. Flawed as it was there was nothing "dragonball" about DAO fights.

DA2 on the other hand ...

the only not a total shit encounters were in fucking DLCs

 

[kris]

Codexian butthurt is AMAZING!

I don't think it is "butthurt", in fact that word is often misused around here.

But by looking at this thread I think it is pretty clear that the people on the codex commenting about Dragon age are the ones most obsessed by "romance" and "characters sexual orientation". They claim it is Bioware, but that is not true. Most the things posted here are digged up from blogs and the forum. While the actual marketing of DAI have pretty much nothing on romances. Just check all these gameplay videos posted, there is not one iota of that stuff on them. Its like I always said, the romances is a really small part of the games and I see no reason to care that much about it. It is a small relatively pointless part of the game.

The real problem from what I can gather seems to be the combat. It don't look interesting, challenging not tactical. and we seen a lot of that in the videos, I just can't feel excited about that at all.

their world building and other features all seem fine, but if the combat (majority of gameplay) is bad then we do have a problem.

 

[Kem0sabe]

*John Epler and Iron Bull praise.

*All human Inquisitors are nobles from the Free March. We don't start out as a leader.

*The Red Templars can be automatons if the lyrium has overwhelmed the mind, but some are more intelligent.

*Blood magic is still morally ambiguous, not just pure evil.

*Red lyrium is not 'more powerful' than blue lyrium. It's something different.

*A hedge mage can never be a proper mage.

*A sarebaas is a form of hedge mage; can't do regular spell casting, they mostly just blow things up.

*There are Circles in Rivani as well.

*In Nevarra, for each person who dies, a spirit is invited into their body. This maintains a 'balance' between life and death. In older cemeteries, there are undead just wandering around.

*Tevinter interbreed in order to create perfect mages. Nobles must always present themselves as perfect mages and any deviancy is looked down on. Families maintain their public self image.

*The Tevinter consider themselves a meritocracy as even those born into slavery might become a mage, earn their freedom, and climb the social ladder. Elves within Tevinter tend to see this as evidence they have more opportunity there.

*David is thinking of writing a new novel.

*The Great Game is based on traditions and is the way the Orlesian maintain a hierarchy. It's from a time when all noble titles were abolished - everyone was lord or lady - and this allowed Houses to maintain their social status.

*Non-nobles seek out noble patrons in order to gain social status. Even common Orlesians consider the ability to be duplicitous a virtue.

*All DLC exist even if you didn't play them.

*Something about Alistair and Fiona comes up in the game.

*For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance.

*Merrill is bisexual. Even if you romance her with a male Hawke, she is not straight.

*They wanted to make sure each specialization requires reactivity. They removed blood magic because it tended to dominate the narrative.

*There is an NPC you can flirt with and romance BUT it is not full-fledged, not like a companions.

*Skyhold will be shown Soon ™

*LI: What is Cullen's surname? David: Oh sh-t, I forget!

*David is not aware of anything like the Black Emporium.

*Approval is much like DA:O. Companions can be gone for good.

*Some companions can be skipped or immediately dropped, while others are mandatory.

*Of all the announced DA:I followers, David would romance... Iron Bull. David would #ridethebull.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

Dragon Age Collector's Edition review
by Nikolas Kontos
$0.00
pledged of $209 goal

I'll review the Dragon Age collector's edition from the gameplay, to the lore, characters, collector's items, and everything else

Are you sick and tired of reading biased reviews from magazines and game sites? Sick of not being able to trust what those fiendish employees say? Worried that the game only received such a praiseworthy review because the writer had received seventeen fruit bowls and a flight to the other side of the country and a stay in a 5 star hotel? Well, here I am to save you from such horror!

I will write the most unbiased review of Dragon Age that ever has been written for any game that was, is or shall ever be. I will envelope myself in a sphere of objectivity, trim from myself every scrap of subjectivity like trimming hair with sharp scissors. For the duration of the game and writing the review, I will be as unbiased and objective in every aspect of my life as can possibly be done, to ensure that nothing leaks over into this review.

I really love RPGs. I've been playing RPG's for as far back as I can remember, back in the days of Final Fantasy on the NES. Though I was about 3 then and I'm pretty sure the controller I was using wasn't plugged in (so says my family - though I'm sure they're just jealous that I was so great at RPGs), I can still assure you all that I loved the genre nonetheless.

I've played a lot of RPGs since my youngling days: Golden Sun and Dragon Quest, Final Fantasies and Pokemon. Chrono Trigger, Mass Effect, KotOR, Baldur's Gate, Tale's of Symphonia. I'm pretty excited to write a review and share my enthusiasm of the genre with other people, and to provide a few lucky people with some enthralling companion pieces for your character's!

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

*David is thinking of writing a new novel.

please no

*For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance.

wtf is this shit? you dont fuck but just walk about holding your hands? pandering to asexuals also?

*There is an NPC you can flirt with and romance BUT it is not full-fledged, not like a companions.

 

[Ogg]

I learned today that DA:I would have a super-collector edition worth no less than 170$ in the USA. Probably sold out now.

As for the French super-collector edition, they must have thought: let's sell it at 170€ (that's about 230$) no one will see the trick. But of course, that would be quite a raise compared to the American equivalent. So they decided to sell it at 100€... except that this supercollector edition doesn't contain the game. Yep. Buy the super-analplug edition of a game, without the game. Genius! And of course, if you want to play, you'll have to pay some 70€ more. Overall, that'll be ... mmm, let me check, 100 plus 70.... 170€. Right. That's ok I guess... Can I get some lube first?

The piece of news was found here (if you speak French).

 

[Elfberserker]

*David is thinking of writing a new novel.

please no

*For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance.

wtf is this shit? you dont fuck but just walk about holding your hands? pandering to asexuals also?

*There is an NPC you can flirt with and romance BUT it is not full-fledged, not like a companions.

Don't you remember those awful sex scenes!?
I am glad that they give you the option to skip them.

It's pretty lame that all human MC are nobles and no chance to choose other backgrounds like in DA:O, you could choose dwarf commonor or noble or between dalish elf or city elf.
Well I am pretty sure that only other option that might appear is mage tower background..

Does anyone know what background choices elfs, qunari and dwarf gets?

 

[Jaesun]

And write he did....

 

[Goat Vomit]

*For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance.

wtf is this shit? you dont fuck but just walk about holding your hands? pandering to asexuals also?

Cool, bluballing guys is now a game feature. It's an odd world we live in.

 

[Space Satan]

*They wanted to make sure each specialization requires reactivity. They removed blood magic because it tended to dominate the narrative.

LOL, i remember they promised Blood Mage will be a specialization.

 

[Elfberserker]

It's a bit shame that they removed the bloodmage specialization, because it dominated the narrative.
I am sure that people would have used other specialization other than bloodmagic, because people would have used other specializions regardless how wrist cutters dominate.

Or are there other reasons?

 

[Delterius]

It's a bit shame that they removed the bloodmage specialization, because it dominated the narrative.

The point of it dominating the narrative was always that the fact you are a Blood Mage should be addressed so often most stories wouldn't work. That is, when being a Mage by itself isn't a story breaking fact (see: Dragon Age 2).

As an example: there was supposed to be an instance in DA:O where you'd have to convince Wynne that you are not a blood mage and that you know what you're doing. Otherwise, she might tell on you during the quest, cutting off your relationship with the templars (since they'd try to apprehend you). It was removed from the final build because the writers felt they gave the players too much many opportunities to lose Wynne. That aside, even if it was a fine idea, the rest of the game's story simply does not support a Blood Mage very well.

Also, have a laugh:

 

[kris]

*For some characters, you can decline sexual advances and continue the romance.

wtf is this shit? you dont fuck but just walk about holding your hands? pandering to asexuals also?

This makes perfect sense if you play a woman.

 

[Delterius]

By the way:

Is the pricing of RPG holding the genre back?

Something i am a little curious about is if people are willing to pay £50-60 standard edition for these (albeit some are good) games that have a 20-30 hour competition time or multiplayer based games released every year, maybe a new pricing for a truly epically scoped RPG looking at the the ones we put 100's of hours into game could set us back £100 standard edition if it was allowed proper development (like 5 years including concepts obviously)

I can easily say i play bioware games (bar DAII which i only had about 60hrs) well over double or triple the amount that i play multiplayer games such as fifa,bf etc that are quick releases so it would justify the cost, which to EA might justify the added funding, as at the end of the day making a great game that sells millions and an epic game that sells millions that bring in roughly the same profit but one has 1-2 years development the other 3+ years, as a business which would you choose?

Forgot to add.... Inquisition is looking like a BioWare game of old in terms of quality, this post was about trying to maintain that kind of quality!

That is why I have no objection to paying for DLC. It is a way for the developers to make more on their games and still compete in the market. I thought about preordering the Inquisitor's edition of DAI just to throw more money at BIoware, but I really don't need more knickknacks to gather dust. Would like the map though, if they ever make it available in the Bioware store I will buy it. Have considered ordering a console edition as well as my PC edition - maybe hubby will play it. But not sure if we are going to spend the money on a PS4 yet so I am holding off on that decision. I am pathetic with a controller so I will stick to my PC games.

Anyway, to sum up a long post, I would pay more but I'm not sure all gamers would. Thus, we should support the companies that make excellent RPG's with our dollars (for both games and DLC) and by word of mouth advertising. That is how we help ensure the games have enough support to justify they expense of developing them.

Read more at: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/509375-is-the-pricing-of-rpg-holding-the-genre-back/

 

[Alonebadman]

By the way:

Is the pricing of RPG holding the genre back?

Something i am a little curious about is if people are willing to pay £50-60 standard edition for these (albeit some are good) games that have a 20-30 hour competition time or multiplayer based games released every year, maybe a new pricing for a truly epically scoped RPG looking at the the ones we put 100's of hours into game could set us back £100 standard edition if it was allowed proper development (like 5 years including concepts obviously)

I can easily say i play bioware games (bar DAII which i only had about 60hrs) well over double or triple the amount that i play multiplayer games such as fifa,bf etc that are quick releases so it would justify the cost, which to EA might justify the added funding, as at the end of the day making a great game that sells millions and an epic game that sells millions that bring in roughly the same profit but one has 1-2 years development the other 3+ years, as a business which would you choose?

Forgot to add.... Inquisition is looking like a BioWare game of old in terms of quality, this post was about trying to maintain that kind of quality!

That is why I have no objection to paying for DLC. It is a way for the developers to make more on their games and still compete in the market. I thought about preordering the Inquisitor's edition of DAI just to throw more money at BIoware, but I really don't need more knickknacks to gather dust. Would like the map though, if they ever make it available in the Bioware store I will buy it. Have considered ordering a console edition as well as my PC edition - maybe hubby will play it. But not sure if we are going to spend the money on a PS4 yet so I am holding off on that decision. I am pathetic with a controller so I will stick to my PC games.

Anyway, to sum up a long post, I would pay more but I'm not sure all gamers would. Thus, we should support the companies that make excellent RPG's with our dollars (for both games and DLC) and by word of mouth advertising. That is how we help ensure the games have enough support to justify they expense of developing them.

Read more at: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/509375-is-the-pricing-of-rpg-holding-the-genre-back/

This is why bioware fans deserve to be fucked in the ass but they'd enjoy that too much. Retards always talk about how to spend with your wallet and lack of common sense but this is one of those times that makes me go "Dude, why?" Expansion packs used to be worth money because you got content. That's the bottomline. Content, not just any, good is what any gamer should want. RPGs in general need diversity when it comes to that shit but Bioware's content ranges from "Hmm this is kind of fun" to "what is this shit?." Yeah I get it as well, every rpg has that spectrum to some degree but why? Why do these people give up money. I mean yeah I know the answer but still.

Also, since people are like "WHERE R GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION?" There's really not much to say at the moment. Bioware's tight with their demo but since they're using the console setup, it seems really action rpg and more like Mass Effect than DAO, at least with archer girl pew pewing arrows all the time.

 

[Decado]

And write he did....

This will never get old. I'm pretty sure that when I'm 90 years old, and the internet has become the halcyon dream of a naive people who have long since been conquered by rampaging artificial intelligence and now live in tubes, I will still laugh at this.

 

[Decado]

By the way:

Is the pricing of RPG holding the genre back?

Something i am a little curious about is if people are willing to pay £50-60 standard edition for these (albeit some are good) games that have a 20-30 hour competition time or multiplayer based games released every year, maybe a new pricing for a truly epically scoped RPG looking at the the ones we put 100's of hours into game could set us back £100 standard edition if it was allowed proper development (like 5 years including concepts obviously)

I can easily say i play bioware games (bar DAII which i only had about 60hrs) well over double or triple the amount that i play multiplayer games such as fifa,bf etc that are quick releases so it would justify the cost, which to EA might justify the added funding, as at the end of the day making a great game that sells millions and an epic game that sells millions that bring in roughly the same profit but one has 1-2 years development the other 3+ years, as a business which would you choose?

Forgot to add.... Inquisition is looking like a BioWare game of old in terms of quality, this post was about trying to maintain that kind of quality!

That is why I have no objection to paying for DLC. It is a way for the developers to make more on their games and still compete in the market. I thought about preordering the Inquisitor's edition of DAI just to throw more money at BIoware, but I really don't need more knickknacks to gather dust. Would like the map though, if they ever make it available in the Bioware store I will buy it. Have considered ordering a console edition as well as my PC edition - maybe hubby will play it. But not sure if we are going to spend the money on a PS4 yet so I am holding off on that decision. I am pathetic with a controller so I will stick to my PC games.

Anyway, to sum up a long post, I would pay more but I'm not sure all gamers would. Thus, we should support the companies that make excellent RPG's with our dollars (for both games and DLC) and by word of mouth advertising. That is how we help ensure the games have enough support to justify they expense of developing them.

Read more at: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/509375-is-the-pricing-of-rpg-holding-the-genre-back/

Stockholm syndrome. DUDES, ARE WE PAYING ENOUGH OF OUR PARENT'S MONEY TO PLAY THESE GAMES? THINK ABOUT IT!

 

[Alonebadman]

By the way:

Am I Retarded for Getting Fucked Literally(Metaphorically?) By Pandering Bullshit?

I LOVE BIOWARE AND MUST GIVE MONEYZ TO SUPPORT MY CRIPPLING LACK OF SOCIAL SKILLS AND BEING AWKWARD WITH OTHERS.

DID I MENTION I'M PAN-CURIOUS SEXUAL NON-BINARY HETEROQUEERKING?

That is why I have no objection to pay for shit. I have no brains and think B-quality writing is what holds up against literary classics like a novel about a creepy Russian jerking off to a wait for it "LOLITA"

Anyway, to sum up a long post, I would pay more because I'm clinically retarded and don't want to play video games. I want to play high budgeted visual novels where I can simulate what's not even close to a real, boring relationship with (insert woman/man/furry/etc) and live life outside of a fantasy land. I don't want to hear about the hypocrisy of JUSTICE AND VENGEANCE when I could hear about bullshit social problems that belong in a second year sociology course. Instead of experiencing the real questions that matter: What does it mean to be a hero, what does it mean to be a villain and how do the lines blur? What does it truly mean to kill another, I want to talk about how mommy/daddy didn't love me. Instead of experiencing a story about LOVE AND JUSTICE, I want to be LOVED

Read more at: http://forum.bioware.com/topic/509375-is-the-pricing-of-rpg-holding-the-genre-back/

Stockholm syndrome. DUDES, ARE WE PAYING ENOUGH OF OUR PARENT'S MONEY TO PLAY THESE GAMES? THINK ABOUT IT!

What is JUSTICE, BIOWARE? WHY CAN'T YOU SPEAK OF THE BITTER TASTE OF SWORDS CLASHING AND MEN DYING FOR HONOR AND SENSELESS MORALITY!

 

[Dreaad]

I never thought I would see customers arguing that things should cost more. What kind of retarded mind set do you have to have. I mean I get what the idea behind it is, more effort should = more money so that effort doesn't drop..... But that only works in a fucking fantasy world. How did they get so assfucked that they can't see the complete lack of common sense. If they want moar challenge from their boring first world life why not just break their own knees with a fucking hammer.

 

[yes plz]

I love their idiotic logic. "We pay 60 dollars for a 20 hour shooter... so we should pay more for BioWare's 50 hour epic!" instead of "Maybe we should be paying less for those shitty, short shooters."

 

[Cadmus]

Guys to be fair, whenever a nice game comes out, I see the codex ubermensch throwing unnecessary money at it as well. But whatevs, fuck biodrones they retarted!!!!!!!!!YEEY!
(seriously, fuck them!)

 

[Shannow]

And write he did....

This will never get old. I'm pretty sure that when I'm 90 years old, and the internet has become the halcyon dream of a naive people who have long since been conquered by rampaging artificial intelligence and now live in tubes, I will still laugh at this.

Really?!? I found it lame even before it became a meme.
While it may be a bad literary device, it's not atrocious. Hell, even MotB uses it. I get it, Gaider thinks he's a great writer while he's competent (for vidya games) at best. (Which means he's quite shitty compared to real writers.) But stil...