Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Avellion]

I wish I could come up with something really negative to say about this game so I could fit in with the cool kids.

Here, this should help you out.

Spoiler

You can thank me later.

 

[dryan]

I wish I could come up with something really negative to say about this game so I could fit in with the cool kids.

Here, this should help you out.

Spoiler

You can thank me later.

Is the Witcher's dragon supposed to be better than the DA's dragon? Because it's all same shit to me.

 

[Rake]

Is the Witcher's dragon supposed to be better than the DA's dragon? Because it's all same shit to me.

Because of the art direction or because it's a dragon?
Because if you dislike fantasy in principle, your opinion is invalid. If it's the first, Witcher's dragon looks more natural, while DA's looks more exaggerated, stylized. Which one someone prefers is a matter of taste, but the diference is there.

 

[Kem0sabe]

DA series has degenerate writing, Witcher series has idiotic writing, same shit different flavor.

 

[Mangoose]

DA:I, more now than ever, looks like a third-person fantasy shooter with nominal RPG elements.

Looks like an aim-assisted lockon 'shooter' like Neverwinter or Elder Scrolls Online.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I think the point is that the Witcher dragon didn't cost 100,000$ to make and looks pretty much the same. I don't know if the Witcher is the right franchise to parade in front of Dragon Age, but i guess it is a fair comparison if we are just talking about how much those two companies got out of their respective budgets, particularly in lieu of that Fagdar comment.

All though, i think part of the reason Dragon Age looks so cheap is that the game was made to be isometric first and then they added zoom options only later, and generally speaking, isometric games always look like shit when zoomed in. Of course, i never played the game but that is the impression i'm getting just by watching those videos.

 

[Avellion]

I think the point is that the Witcher dragon didn't cost 100,000$ to make and looks pretty much the same. I don't know if the Witcher is the right franchise to parade in front of Dragon Age, but i guess it is a fair comparison if we are just talking about how much those two companies got out of their respective budgets, particularly in lieu of that Fagdar comment.

All though, i think part of the reason Dragon Age looks so cheap is that the game was made to be isometric first and than they added zoom options only later, and generally speaking, isometric games always look like shit when zoomed in. Of course, i never played the game but that is the impression i'm getting just by watching those videos.

The budget, is a part of it indeed, so is the release date. When you have a huge budget like BioWare did, you should be able to produce better graphics than what a much smaller developer with a much smaller team did 3 years ago. And since Dragon Age games no longer use overhead views for most of the game, there is no real excuse for it to look so cheap.

 

[Kem0sabe]

People are forgetting that developers can earn upwards of 70.000 dollars working on a game like DA, while the costs of those same developers are miniscule working in former soviet republic.

 

[imweasel]

Honestly bros, I think the game looks rather decent so far, although the art is quite uninspiring.

The art direction is crap. Even the art direction in Mass Effect is clearly far superior.

DA:I, more now than ever, looks like a third-person fantasy shooter with nominal RPG elements.

Dragon's Dogma seems to have more depth than D:AI.

 

[fanta]

People are forgetting that developers can earn upwards of 70.000 dollars working on a game like DA, while the costs of those same developers are miniscule working in former soviet republic.

dat history knowledge


I do not see them getting a core programmer for less than 40k USD / year in Poland. It's cheaper, but by no means minuscule.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

People are forgetting that developers can earn upwards of 70.000 dollars working on a game like DA, while the costs of those same developers are miniscule working in former soviet republic.

Not sure if the difference is that big ,maybe in US they get double or triple in salary,but the cost of living are higher.

 

[Kem0sabe]

I doubt a programer in an eastern european country is paid more than 20 thousand euros a year starting out, in fact i bet they are paid much less. Also cost of living is sometimes anecdotal, take Spain and Portugal for example, Portuguese pay more taxes, earn much less and their cost of living is much higher, food, gas and other products are much cheaper in spain.

 

[Bubbles]

30 seconds with google, come on.

Computer Programmer Job Average Net Salary

U.S. average salary $ 4,141 - 39.4 hrs/week

Canada average income $ 1,836 - 26.3 hrs/week

Poland average income $ 892 - 41.0 hrs/week

Cost of living in Edmonton (Canada) is 31% more expensive than in Warsaw (Poland)

Mind that the Canadian salary would be higher if the average Canadian programmer worked full time. Poland does however have the highest compulsory deductions (38% compared to 27% in Canada).

 

[Martius]

Well, to be honest, Bioware isn't terrible at twitch combat, if they full on commit to a twitch combat. The Mass Effects have a lot of weaknesses, but combat is passable. I'm not saying it's probable, but it's possible for them to do a decent fantasy action game.

Well, their last more action focus game was Jade Empire (Mass Effect is pretty much shooter right now, i meant something closer to hack and slash/slashers/beat'em up). Seeing how they would try that from zero would be interesting. Too bad so far they could just make bit faster animation and increase numbers of enemies and call that crap "action rpg option to play".

 

[Mangoose]

Well, to be honest, Bioware isn't terrible at twitch combat, if they full on commit to a twitch combat. The Mass Effects have a lot of weaknesses, but combat is passable. I'm not saying it's probable, but it's possible for them to do a decent fantasy action game.

Well, their last more action focus game was Jade Empire (Mass Effect is pretty much shooter right now, i meant something closer to hack and slash/slashers/beat'em up). Seeing how they would try that from zero would be interesting. Too bad so far they could just make bit faster animation and increase numbers of enemies and call that crap "action rpg option to play".

Oh. Fuck, I forgot Jade Empire. That was entertaining in some ways but sure as hell not in combat. So nevermind, they can't do action combat.

 

[Kem0sabe]

30 seconds with google, come on.





Mind that the Canadian salary would be higher if the average Canadian programmer worked full time. Poland does however have the highest compulsory deductions (38% compared to 27% in Canada).

That's a horrible monthly wage in euros, about the same as a secretary makes in euros starting her first job here, in fact it's lower.

Barely above 7000 Euro gross yearly salary.

 

[WalmartJesus]

It's like a Disney Princess knock off of a TOEE portrait.

 

[Tytus]

It's like a Disney Princess knock off of a TOEE portrait.

And yet it is the only part of the game where this character looks remotely good.

 

[dryan]

It's like a Disney Princess knock off of a TOEE portrait.

And yet it is the only part of the game where this character looks remotely good.

I thought that was fan made art?

 

[Menckenstein]

You're speaking like a pedant.

The DA team's ability to make a good game should be based on the games they've made in the past, not the efforts of those other people sharing the same studio space.

And with that all hope for PoE, WL2 and Torment 2 was lost.

 

[Alchemist]

Hi WalmartJesus - could you possibly choose a different avatar? I've been using this one for quite some time and also was the uploader of that set. It gets confusing to people seeing the same avatar on different users.

 

[curry]

Hi WalmartJesus - could you possibly choose a different avatar? I've been using this one for quite some time and also was the uploader of that set. It gets confusing to people seeing the same avatar on different users.

Walmart, don't do it, man. Don't give into this online bully's demands. Who knows what type of demands he'll make next, just to see how far you're willing to go.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Hi WalmartJesus - could you possibly choose a different avatar? I've been using this one for quite some time and also was the uploader of that set. It gets confusing to people seeing the same avatar on different users.

WalmartJesus Learned

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Someone has to check his newfag privilege.

 

[Tytus]

Hi WalmartJesus - could you possibly choose a different avatar? I've been using this one for quite some time and also was the uploader of that set. It gets confusing to people seeing the same avatar on different users.

If it bothers you that people may be confused why not change your own avatar and not demand from someone to pander to your lower tastes in avatars and misguided sense of proprietorship? You sound like a feminist.

 

[Lhynn]

Hi WalmartJesus - could you possibly choose a different avatar? I've been using this one for quite some time and also was the uploader of that set. It gets confusing to people seeing the same avatar on different users.

If it bothers you that people may be confused why not change your own avatar and not demand from someone to pander to your lower tastes in avatars and misguided sense of proprietorship? You sound like a feminist.

Indeed.