Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard - coming October 31st

[EvilWolf]

@Wirdschowerdn since you're the only person here excited about the game, are you going to play this on release? If yes, would you consider streaming? I'd happily grab a bottle of vodka and watch a 'dexer play it.

Good lord this thread is near 500 pages and that game ain't even got a demo or some kinda EA? Jfc you people talk about people's genitals more than pornhub comment sections.

But yeah, given that there's no DRM, if it's easy enough I'm considering sailing the seas just to at least poke in for at least a look. Partly for the same reason I watched Rings of Power - because it was fun to laugh at, and the people tearing it apart provided a tremendous amount of entertainment value. Hell, one of the reasons I even created an account way back in the day was because some heroic Codexer forced himself to play through the entirety of Inquisition and the commentary was fucking hilarious.

I will not be doing that. I simply do not care that much. But man I'd love to find that thread.

For all y'all praying for this to fail tho ... guys I'm real sorry but you're gonna be in for a disappointment. You guys actually have any faith in gaming media? Do you have any idea how hungry people are to see a headline yelling "BIOWARE IS BACK!!" I'll tell you who knows, and it's every media outlet, and I'd be shocked if they didn't already have that headline ready to go. 8s, 9s and 10s across the board.

I was there for Bioshock Infinite. History is a flat circle, propelled ever onward by hype and fools.

That'll bring in a swarm of curious normies (they're targeting this at the "new generation"), but you gotta account that DA has an absolutely massive playerbase that will tell you, openly and frankly, that they do not care about gameplay in the slightest. That's why I might push through this, because it's going to be a mindless hack'n'slash Dad of War buttonmasher that I can walk to the end of with half a functioning brain cell while I make my way through a podcast. What DA fans want are story, character and romances, which takes up slots 1, 2 and 3, followed by 4, 5 and 6, with gameplay languishing so far down I don't think they've invented numbers for it yet. Sometimes at night you might hear its pitiless wailing. But you won't see it in this game.

Bioware knows they can push out low-effort, flashy, single brain cell combat and so long as the story is YA level "rah power of friendship saves the world" with a hefty amount of shipping, this game will succeed.

Big time.

So yes, it will almost certainly suck. It will also almost certainly do massive numbers, create years of shipping wars on forums you've never even heard of, endless pages of deranged fan art, snag a very possible GOTY nomination and even a possible win.

Just buckle up for the suck, y'all. The Chiefs are 6-0 and there is no god.

Starfield would like a word.

 

[Mortmal]

Woke means the marxism from Frankfurt school

Can it be made simpler? "Woke" is a globalist agenda promoted by a few liberal billionaires who own media outlets. It’s widely supported (for example, in mainstream gaming media, Dragon Age: Veilguard is a highly anticipated game) and promotes erasing strong cultural identities, dividing working classes into new groups (a classic divide-and-conquer tactic), erasing traditional cultural values, moral values, and specifically Christian ones. The new value being promoted is "inclusivity," which had its good side and was mostly accepted until recently. Now, "inclusivity" has come to mean removal—removal of attractive women (of any race) and removal of the white male hero (again, in the Dragon Age trailer, there is everyone but a white male as the hero), catering to a "modern audience" that never really existed. This shift has led to backlash, with more people openly expressing that they’re fed up with this trend.

One of its greatest achievements has been to discredit the left; this is a notable success, as now the left is associated with these ideas, and blue-collar and low-wage workers are increasingly voting far-right—which, ironically, is very compatible with billionaire interests. Wokism also promotes quotas in hiring over merit and skills, slowly but surely corrupting the industry and dragging it down. Those hired then bring in others like them, resulting in entertainment companies like Ubisoft being bloated, losing money, lacking creativity, and losing skilled workers—a rare case where the parasites kill the host. We end up with dull, boring games that take ages to release. Dragon Age: Veilguard is a perfect example of wokism gone wrong.

Exchange 'liberal' with 'libertarian' and you might be onto something.

Indeed libertarian is fitting, but this is lost in the translation for me, almost same meaning in french.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Woke means the marxism from Frankfurt school

Can it be made simpler? "Woke" is a globalist agenda promoted by a few liberal billionaires who own media outlets. It’s widely supported (for example, in mainstream gaming media, Dragon Age: Veilguard is a highly anticipated game) and promotes erasing strong cultural identities, dividing working classes into new groups (a classic divide-and-conquer tactic), erasing traditional cultural values, moral values, and specifically Christian ones. The new value being promoted is "inclusivity," which had its good side and was mostly accepted until recently. Now, "inclusivity" has come to mean removal—removal of attractive women (of any race) and removal of the white male hero (again, in the Dragon Age trailer, there is everyone but a white male as the hero), catering to a "modern audience" that never really existed. This shift has led to backlash, with more people openly expressing that they’re fed up with this trend.

One of its greatest achievements has been to discredit the left; this is a notable success, as now the left is associated with these ideas, and blue-collar and low-wage workers are increasingly voting far-right—which, ironically, is very compatible with billionaire interests. Wokism also promotes quotas in hiring over merit and skills, slowly but surely corrupting the industry and dragging it down. Those hired then bring in others like them, resulting in entertainment companies like Ubisoft being bloated, losing money, lacking creativity, and losing skilled workers—a rare case where the parasites kill the host. We end up with dull, boring games that take ages to release. Dragon Age: Veilguard is a perfect example of wokism gone wrong.

Exchange 'liberal' with 'libertarian' and you might be onto something.

Indeed libertarian is fitting, but this is lost in the translation for me, almost same meaning in french.

It's the Libertarian schtick. Get rid of all the humanities and history so that nobody anymore knows what Libertarianism or Liberalism means, then behave like a Liberal and call your enemy Liberals.

 

[Grauken]

It's the Libertarian schtick. Get rid of all the humanities and history so that nobody anymore knows what Libertarianism means

We all know it's the guy who will be forever alone

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

It's the Libertarian schtick. Get rid of all the humanities and history so that nobody anymore knows what Libertarianism means

We all know it's the guy who will be forever alone

...and visits the Burning Man festival every year.

 

[Arthandas]

I don't even know who the bad guys are anymore.

White heterosexual men.

 

[Xorazm]

@Wirdschowerdn since you're the only person here excited about the game, are you going to play this on release? If yes, would you consider streaming? I'd happily grab a bottle of vodka and watch a 'dexer play it.

Good lord this thread is near 500 pages and that game ain't even got a demo or some kinda EA? Jfc you people talk about people's genitals more than pornhub comment sections.

But yeah, given that there's no DRM, if it's easy enough I'm considering sailing the seas just to at least poke in for at least a look. Partly for the same reason I watched Rings of Power - because it was fun to laugh at, and the people tearing it apart provided a tremendous amount of entertainment value. Hell, one of the reasons I even created an account way back in the day was because some heroic Codexer forced himself to play through the entirety of Inquisition and the commentary was fucking hilarious.

I will not be doing that. I simply do not care that much. But man I'd love to find that thread.

For all y'all praying for this to fail tho ... guys I'm real sorry but you're gonna be in for a disappointment. You guys actually have any faith in gaming media? Do you have any idea how hungry people are to see a headline yelling "BIOWARE IS BACK!!" I'll tell you who knows, and it's every media outlet, and I'd be shocked if they didn't already have that headline ready to go. 8s, 9s and 10s across the board.

I was there for Bioshock Infinite. History is a flat circle, propelled ever onward by hype and fools.

That'll bring in a swarm of curious normies (they're targeting this at the "new generation"), but you gotta account that DA has an absolutely massive playerbase that will tell you, openly and frankly, that they do not care about gameplay in the slightest. That's why I might push through this, because it's going to be a mindless hack'n'slash Dad of War buttonmasher that I can walk to the end of with half a functioning brain cell while I make my way through a podcast. What DA fans want are story, character and romances, which takes up slots 1, 2 and 3, followed by 4, 5 and 6, with gameplay languishing so far down I don't think they've invented numbers for it yet. Sometimes at night you might hear its pitiless wailing. But you won't see it in this game.

Bioware knows they can push out low-effort, flashy, single brain cell combat and so long as the story is YA level "rah power of friendship saves the world" with a hefty amount of shipping, this game will succeed.

Big time.

So yes, it will almost certainly suck. It will also almost certainly do massive numbers, create years of shipping wars on forums you've never even heard of, endless pages of deranged fan art, snag a very possible GOTY nomination and even a possible win.

Just buckle up for the suck, y'all. The Chiefs are 6-0 and there is no god.

Starfield would like a word.

That's a good point. But it's sort of the exception that proves the rule - the gaming public was rooting against Bethesda after Fallout 4, the milking of Skyrim and in particular FO76. It was a safe slate. Plus, as a new IP, it didn't have that built in legion of fans ready to devour you like a pack of wolves if you dare criticize it. Not even Mass Effect has the weird cult-like following that Dragon Age does.

Even still, Starfield had to suck on galactic proportions to get the reviews that it did. It didn't even measure up to passable.

"Passable" (with lots of romances and hilariously quippy companions!) is literally the only bar that Veilguard has to clear to get showered in glory and devoured by its extremely, weirdly devoted fanbase. And I'm pretty sure they'll hit "passable" because the bar for passable gets lower every single year.

 

[Tytus]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

 

[Late Bloomer]

We are so close, Veilbros.

 

[Modron]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

It's not even in the top 10 https://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=globaltopsellers

Are you sure you weren't doing your local region's top sellers? It's not top ten in the western US.

 

[Konjad]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

I just checked top sellers and it's #22 in Poland and #18 worldwide. Overall, not just pre-ordered games, but Black Ops 6 already came out anyway, didn't it? Either way, it's behind even Factorio DLC so far.

Comparing to other pre-orders only makes just as much sense considering it's the only major game coming within a few games.

 

[Tytus]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

​

EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

It's not even in the top 10 https://store.steampowered.com/search/?filter=globaltopsellers

Are you sure you weren't doing your local region's top sellers? It's not top ten in the western US.

I have no idea I'm just parroting things from Reddit (the place of intelligent people) to own the CHUDS! You think I have time to actually check the validity of the message?! Nobody has time for that!

If Reddit says it's numbuh 2 it must be true.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

Star Wars Outlaws was at the top of PSN and that shit sold 800k copies across consoles and PC. A high chart position doesn't mean it's selling well, just that it's selling more than older shit.

 

[Modron]

If Reddit says it's numbuh 2 it must be true.

Like konjad says it's possibly the second most preordered game even down at #18 in global sales, I wasn't thinking critically enough that everything else above it is already out.

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

 

[Donald Gordon Lord]

It'll probably sell well for a few days until people start playing it, then see a nosedive from week 3 on.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

The narrative was already set that it's a "bad" game and BG3 won by having a seemingly grassroots launch in the eyes of the people, they don't know Hasbro is bankrolling the game and that Larian was a veteran dev at that point. Some even think Larian is a "new" dev lol

 

[MerchantKing]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

"On the PSN store." Does anyone really own a Playstation anymore?

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

"On the PSN store." Does anyone really own a Playstation anymore?

It's the only game they can play.

 

[processdaemon]

That's interesting, I watched his early impressions video and I thought he was very restrained. He did criticize the artstyle, the visuals and the UI and say that the combat likely wouldn't be to the taste of big cRPG fans or players into more 'hardcore' (his words) action games like Soulslikes, but he also said he was excited and would still be playing it himself even if he couldn't say for certain whether it would be great or not.

 

[Hedasd]

I would like to add to this that Veilguard is the only game on reddit that gets a pass for having positive reactions from curated previews(while the critical reviews like this guys were either ignored or called hater review even when they were very polite and detailed in their reasonings). If any other game was treated like that in the last 4 or 5 years I must have missed it, because whenever previews for games comes out redditors do their bot like behaviour and post the same "dont trust previews" message over and over again hundreds of times in the same thread. I really hate how trannies embraced this game and made it part of their identity, or maybe EA hired multiple social media community management companies(which I doubt for this game).

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

​

​

​

EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

"On the PSN store." Does anyone really own a Playstation anymore?

Majority of current Bioware fanbase is on Playstation now as far as I can tell.

 

[MerchantKing]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

"On the PSN store." Does anyone really own a Playstation anymore?

It's the only game they can play.

I guess the only company in town has the most customers in town.

 

[cioran]

That's interesting, I watched his early impressions video and I thought he was very restrained. He did criticize the artstyle, the visuals and the UI and say that the combat likely wouldn't be to the taste of big cRPG fans or players into more 'hardcore' (his words) action games like Soulslikes, but he also said he was excited and would still be playing it himself even if he couldn't say for certain whether it would be great or not.

So he basically plays the neutral card just not to piss any of his income sources off. Fucking sellouts...

 

[Lodis]

Twitter trannies already piling on the guy.

 

[Mortmal]

Ok CHUDS! Do you admit defeat now!?

You are not the part of modern audience anymore. You never were! Not only that, but you were always just circle jerking grognards.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is the second most pre-ordered game right now on steam worldwide, only behind Black ops 6​

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EMBRACE THE FUTURE! BIOWARE IS KING! CHANGE YOUR GENDER AND PAINT A RAINBOW ON YOUR ASS!

LONG LIVE DRAGON AGE!

I just checked top sellers and it's #22 in Poland and #18 worldwide. Overall, not just pre-ordered games, but Black Ops 6 already came out anyway, didn't it? Either way, it's behind even Factorio DLC so far.

Comparing to other pre-orders only makes just as much sense considering it's the only major game coming within a few games.

It's not in the top 10, but it's better than before when it was buried behind 50 older games. Recently, I've seen a lot of ads for it too, which should help, but it’s still not in the top 10 even in a slow month. I'm sure even the number one, Black Ops, isn’t selling as much since it's available on Game Pass for really cheap.