Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[skaraher]

Nigga, DAO was full of women guards and basic antiracist preaching. Muh oppressed elves, muh slavery bad. It never "stood against the competition", it always was a pile up of cliche for the mediocre public of reddititian semi-intellectuals.

 

[likash]

Polacks: " Witcher is so based; everything mature and virile come from the Witcher, Geralt is full of testosterones, you westerners take everything from us and only inject estrogens"

Reality:

WTF do you expect him to say? Voice acting is how he makes a living. If he said something against or neutral, nobody would hire him. He has to play along untill these degenerates lose their power.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Version française est supérieure:

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

DA2 had better concept for an RPG story imo and game structure. Game got rushed in a year with shit gameplay. Waste of a good setting and a good plot idea.

I love the ideas that DA2 had, how they did is sadly poorly done.. But still being not the Hero to defeat the Big Bad Dragon, it's still refreshing to play as a Poor refugee (not for long but still)

You're not really a poor refugee. You're part of Kirkwall's high society. You might be on the run and with no money on your pockets, but it's not like you came from dirt.

 

[9ted6]

Nigga, DAO was full of women guards and basic antiracist preaching. Muh oppressed elves, muh slavery bad. It never "stood against the competition", it always was a pile up of cliche for the mediocre public of reddititian semi-intellectuals.

Nigga, it never felt like leftist pandering though. You meet multiple elves who are evil pieces of shit, it's kept ambiguous whether they deserved getting invaded because their nation was evil, slavery's almost never mentioned, and there's no more female guards than any old CRPGs or DND games. It's got like four bi characters and three of them are evil murderous liars.

It had oppressed elves, bi NPCs, and female guards without feeling like they were there as some kind of message.

If you wanna see leftist pandering, look at the sequels or The Witcher where gays are saints, RL allegories punch you in the face, and every woman speaks in feminist talking points at you.

 

[processdaemon]

My one remaining hope for Dreadwolf is that they bring blood magic back. I don't care about the inconsistencies of your blood magic hating companions sticking by you, there are a hundred plot holes in Dragon Age and I don't see why they had to choose to address the one that ruins part of the fun of the game.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Nigga, DAO was full of women guards and basic antiracist preaching. Muh oppressed elves, muh slavery bad. It never "stood against the competition", it always was a pile up of cliche for the mediocre public of reddititian semi-intellectuals.

Nigga, it never felt like leftist pandering though. You meet multiple elves who are evil pieces of shit, it's kept ambiguous whether they deserved getting invaded because their nation was evil, slavery's almost never mentioned, and there's no more female guards than any old CRPGs or DND games. It's got like four bi characters and three of them are evil murderous liars.

It had oppressed elves, bi NPCs, and female guards without feeling like they were there as some kind of message.

If you wanna see leftist pandering, look at the sequels or The Witcher where gays are saints, RL allegories punch you in the face, and every woman speaks in feminist talking points at you.

I love this clip.

However, political observations in Witcher are meant to be like this. Geralt, being a pest exterminator stuck in two worlds, is meant to represent the average Pole in the aftermath of the USSR.

Or that's what I'd say if I wanted to make the books feel smarter than what they are.

 

[Space Satan]

Damn they axed reaction to being a blood mage - the best mage

 

[Space Satan]

The hole goes deeper, they retconned entire chunks along with management change

 

[La vie sexuelle]

The hole goes deeper, they retconned entire chunks along with management change

Politically correct in 2009 is based in 2023, apparently.

I hate the world we live in.

 

[9ted6]

The hole goes deeper, they retconned entire chunks along with management change

Tons of shit got retconned by 2 and Inquisition and their books. Qunari were the biggest change, getting all their lore canned for obvious lgbtsjw++ reasons, but it wasn't all that got axed or rewritten.

The setting as it was in Origins doesn't really exist anymore. Names are similar, but everything's different and it's all congruently worse.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

And it sucks because the qunari were probably the most creative thing they did with their setting.

 

[Space Satan]

I underestimated Dragon Age fanbase and now I am paying the price for my folly

 

[Child of Malkav]

Wow, that's some uh....bloody, deep lore. Ehhh, I'll see myself out.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

I underestimated Dragon Age fanbase and now I am paying the price for my folly

4 Qunaris cycling

 

[Semiurge]

My one remaining hope for Dreadwolf is that they bring blood magic back. I don't care about the inconsistencies of your blood magic hating companions sticking by you, there are a hundred plot holes in Dragon Age and I don't see why they had to choose to address the one that ruins part of the fun of the game.

Blood magic in DA:O was nothing but a cheat. With actual consequences for its use it could've been more than that.

 

[Space Satan]

Entire setting is based on how vile and dangerous blood magic is and yet you can use it freely in the streets of any city and nobody will say nothing. Even BG2 had restrictions to casting and imposed a severe fee to use magic.

 

[Grunker]

severe fee

Severe, lol. I raise that shit to 50k with SCS and barely even notice

 

[NecroLord]

Even BG2 had restrictions to casting and imposed a severe fee to use magic.

It amounted to pretty much nothing. Either pay 5k gold or some Cowled Wizards come after you.
Pretty cool concept, but I think it could've been done far better.

 

[NecroLord]

My one remaining hope for Dreadwolf is that they bring blood magic back. I don't care about the inconsistencies of your blood magic hating companions sticking by you, there are a hundred plot holes in Dragon Age and I don't see why they had to choose to address the one that ruins part of the fun of the game.

Blood magic should also have more consequences and severe ones at that.
Not everyone can use blood magic without sacrifices or some other evil shit. They could make this work if they wanted to, but I don't know if they are willing to devote effort to it.

 

[Space Satan]

It is simple, you either use your own blood, or someone else's.

 

[NecroLord]

It is simple, you either use your own blood, or someone else's.

Yes, but make it a bit more complex in terms of mechanics.

 

[9ted6]

It is simple, you either use your own blood, or someone else's.

It should still be evil. IIRC in the lore of Origins blood magic was introduced to people by the setting's equivalents of satan.

Now it's just another elven parlor trick or some shit but everyone should ignore that.

 

[Space Satan]

Blood magic is the same age old moral dilemma, when you have a genius scientist\genius doctor\general who save the nation\your daughter, with failing heart or other disease and a good-for-nothing redditor\incel\hobo. Would you sacrifice a redditor\incel to save another person's life? According towiki there were some blood mages who healed people and people volunteered to give their blood to them.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

It's funny because as the combat got progressively better everything else got worse.

The combat in ME3 is great and in Andromeda actually excellent. But writing in ME3 is p. bad and in Andromeda it's not even professional anymore. Just a bunch of diversity hire zoomers typing some shit on their iPhones.

What the fuck am I reading in this thread about any of the Mass Effect games having good combat. They all suck. They’re garbage third person shooters with a hook of being able to talk to characters with a few different optional dialogue choices between the shooting. You could throw a rock during the 360 era when the bulk of the Mass Effect series was released and hit a better third person shooter than any of the Mass Effect games. The shooting wasn’t all that good, the enemies suck, and BioWare never got the hang of level design...which didn’t help them as they moved away from the more open areas of the first ME game as the series went on.

The best thing about Mass Effect (and about the only good thing) was aesthetic shit, and even there the only aesthetic thing to carry through all the games was the Syd Mead knockoff designs.