Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Havoc]

I have some hope for next DA main plot. Maybe it will not suck ass.

How do you feel about that now?))

 

[Taxnomore]

I'm going to say it.

Dragon Age should just have had a demon invasion on each game until it was the final archdemon.

This seems like an overused trope, but it is a trope for one reason : it works in video games. And it has been labelled such an overused trope it is hardly used anymore because it feels dumb. But it's not dumb. If you are of dubious morality and have immense power at your disposal, you invade . For no other reason that you can. Look at world history.

People watched GoT for the political drama but the real questions everyone was wondering was when the White Walkers would attack.

And if it feels repetitive, change the way it unfolds, change the part in the world, change the characters, change what's at stake. You can do a lot with such a simple preset.

Instead they went with political stories, treacheries, hidden agendas, etc etc but it doesn't work. They write convoluted shit that is dumb and fail to involve.

Bring back the demon invasions if you want to save D.A

 

[gurugeorge]

I am not surprised by the fact that they are paid. I just wondered whether the trailer failure activated this propaganda machine to a greater extent than usual.

I'm just interested in the scale of the operation called Dragon Age Veilguard. Not only the amount of money spent, but also human commitment, work organization, but also the dedication of useful idiots. I have the impression that we are facing something gigantic, and at the same time based on psychosis. Because only psychosis can we call an irrational belief in the power of a brand that moves such great human forces. Ours too.

These multimillion dollar DEI brands are too big to fail, and their significance borderlines on the symbolic. Especially to the "fans" committed to their values.

There are some signs that we are past peak DEI/ESG though. BlackRock seems to move away from it since “forcing behaviour” as their plan was doesn’t actually seem to work, despite them trying for more than 10 years now. You can only finance so many multi billion dollar failures and the number of entertainment franchises (games, movies, series, etc) still untouched and ready to be infected and destroyed is dwindling. It’s just not a very good money making scheme, which is BlackRocks core business. So those DEI funds companies rely on may dry up soon (ish), which will force companies to make products for regular customers instead of their DEI overlords. Of course this could be just wishful thinking.

It's a tricky one, because one thinks there has to be a limit somewhere. Even if you think of elite Jews who are "willing to take one for the team," even that's bound to clash with their acquisitiveness at some point of attrition.

But I don't think we've reached anywhere near the limit yet. The purpose of BlackRock, etc., is for Jewish elites' social engineering, the business side of it is in service to that, and they'll keep going and keep pushing DEI till they can't do it any more.

It's really only when they finally realize they were sold a pup by their academic fellow travellers in the early 20th century, in terms of the power of social conditioning, that they'll give up. Older and wiser heads always knew it was mainly about "blood," that genetics are primary and immediate environment secondary, for most traits, but in the multiple ball juggling that went on in the 20th century, I think Jewish elites came to drink their own Kool Aid with the social conditioning idea (which had initially only been meant to steer the goyim away from racial solidarity and exaggerate the natural goy inclination to moral universalism).

So yeah, most of the bs will eventually fall into disuse once they realize it's fruitless. Then they'll regroup and go for genetic engineering, so that's the thing to watch out for maybe a few decades from now.

 

[huskarls]

dragon age 4, witcher 3, mass effect 3, fallout 5, skyrim 2, modern warfare 6, dark souls 5, ds 3

I get the risk aversion for game and movies, but why does it have to be bad? is it the corporate environment that makes the head director a moron and the poor capitalist have to throw money at this retard

 

[La vie sexuelle]

A large body of resarch proves diverse teams outperform homogenous teams

Just like in NASA.

 

[TheKing01]

I am not surprised by the fact that they are paid. I just wondered whether the trailer failure activated this propaganda machine to a greater extent than usual.

I'm just interested in the scale of the operation called Dragon Age Veilguard. Not only the amount of money spent, but also human commitment, work organization, but also the dedication of useful idiots. I have the impression that we are facing something gigantic, and at the same time based on psychosis. Because only psychosis can we call an irrational belief in the power of a brand that moves such great human forces. Ours too.

These multimillion dollar DEI brands are too big to fail, and their significance borderlines on the symbolic. Especially to the "fans" committed to their values.

There are some signs that we are past peak DEI/ESG though. BlackRock seems to move away from it since “forcing behaviour” as their plan was doesn’t actually seem to work, despite them trying for more than 10 years now. You can only finance so many multi billion dollar failures and the number of entertainment franchises (games, movies, series, etc) still untouched and ready to be infected and destroyed is dwindling. It’s just not a very good money making scheme, which is BlackRocks core business. So those DEI funds companies rely on may dry up soon (ish), which will force companies to make products for regular customers instead of their DEI overlords. Of course this could be just wishful thinking.

Is that Chris Paul?

 

[Turn_BASED]

I am not surprised by the fact that they are paid. I just wondered whether the trailer failure activated this propaganda machine to a greater extent than usual.

I'm just interested in the scale of the operation called Dragon Age Veilguard. Not only the amount of money spent, but also human commitment, work organization, but also the dedication of useful idiots. I have the impression that we are facing something gigantic, and at the same time based on psychosis. Because only psychosis can we call an irrational belief in the power of a brand that moves such great human forces. Ours too.

These multimillion dollar DEI brands are too big to fail, and their significance borderlines on the symbolic. Especially to the "fans" committed to their values.

There are some signs that we are past peak DEI/ESG though. BlackRock seems to move away from it since “forcing behaviour” as their plan was doesn’t actually seem to work, despite them trying for more than 10 years now. You can only finance so many multi billion dollar failures and the number of entertainment franchises (games, movies, series, etc) still untouched and ready to be infected and destroyed is dwindling. It’s just not a very good money making scheme, which is BlackRocks core business. So those DEI funds companies rely on may dry up soon (ish), which will force companies to make products for regular customers instead of their DEI overlords. Of course this could be just wishful thinking.

Is that Chris Paul?

“Hello my name is Chris Paul, and today I’m here to talk to you about diversity after playing on several NBA teams that were 99% other niggas”

 

[Fedora Master]

Dragon Age should just have had a demon invasion on each game until it was the final archdemon.

They should've fucking stuck with what they started in Origins but somehow didn't.

 

[commie]

I'm going to say it.

Dragon Age should just have had a demon invasion on each game until it was the final archdemon.

This seems like an overused trope, but it is a trope for one reason : it works in video games. And it has been labelled such an overused trope it is hardly used anymore because it feels dumb. But it's not dumb. If you are of dubious morality and have immense power at your disposal, you invade . For no other reason that you can. Look at world history.

People watched GoT for the political drama but the real questions everyone was wondering was when the White Walkers would attack.

And if it feels repetitive, change the way it unfolds, change the part in the world, change the characters, change what's at stake. You can do a lot with such a simple preset.

Instead they went with political stories, treacheries, hidden agendas, etc etc but it doesn't work. They write convoluted shit that is dumb and fail to involve.

Bring back the demon invasions if you want to save D.A

This is why Gold Box, Wizardry, M&M was so effective...nothing more than evil for the lulz and powa and that's all you need as a setup if the actual, you know, GAME mechanics are sound and the combat loop is satisfying. This shit isn't highbrow existential rumination on 'what is a man?' (though as we know, there is space for that in specific one off examples), it's magic and swords and demons and shit. What's there to overthink? Make a game fun to play, good tactical combat options, and then just tack on a scenario where you do shit in order to beat the big meanie at the end. The basic illogicality of fantasy doesn't lend itself to making it too cerebral or in depth as the contradictions of the world become more obvious (simple example is resurrection for your party while everyone else just dies forever) and are much more immersion breaking.

 

[Baron Tahn]

To be fair M&M was off the wall with its scifi backstory with all of the habitats and invading aliens/underground vaults/precursors stuff. I WISH Dragon Age had stuff like that in it!

 

[Irxy]

Looking back on it, it seems most of the worldbuilding for this franchise was done by creating a problem that the writers feel need fixing. Control of mages, slavery in Tevinter, deadly political intrigue in Orlais, oppression of elves, etc. Each game tackles such a problem and fixes it from a modern perspective.

None of these have been fixed in any of the games so far though.
Unlike say Mass Effect 3, in which commander Shepard dismantles every setting defining issue on a whim, to the point where nothing remains.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

It could just be that the shills are defending their paychecks.

If a company paid you $50,000 to say something was great, you'd want that money to keep coming. They wouldn't even have to tell you to defend it.

That JuiceHead guy on YouTube just did a Fallout 76 video about their upcoming expansion for that game where he talks about Bethesda flying him over to London to play test it.

To be fair M&M was off the wall with its scifi backstory

Ultima also did this early on. Lands of Lore also. Oh, and more recently, Sacred.

 

[Cael]

I'm going to say it.

Dragon Age should just have had a demon invasion on each game until it was the final archdemon.

This seems like an overused trope, but it is a trope for one reason : it works in video games. And it has been labelled such an overused trope it is hardly used anymore because it feels dumb. But it's not dumb. If you are of dubious morality and have immense power at your disposal, you invade . For no other reason that you can. Look at world history.

People watched GoT for the political drama but the real questions everyone was wondering was when the White Walkers would attack.

And if it feels repetitive, change the way it unfolds, change the part in the world, change the characters, change what's at stake. You can do a lot with such a simple preset.

Instead they went with political stories, treacheries, hidden agendas, etc etc but it doesn't work. They write convoluted shit that is dumb and fail to involve.

Bring back the demon invasions if you want to save D.A

This is why Gold Box, Wizardry, M&M was so effective...nothing more than evil for the lulz and powa and that's all you need as a setup if the actual, you know, GAME mechanics are sound and the combat loop is satisfying. This shit isn't highbrow existential rumination on 'what is a man?' (though as we know, there is space for that in specific one off examples), it's magic and swords and demons and shit. What's there to overthink? Make a game fun to play, good tactical combat options, and then just tack on a scenario where you do shit in order to beat the big meanie at the end. The basic illogicality of fantasy doesn't lend itself to making it too cerebral or in depth as the contradictions of the world become more obvious (simple example is resurrection for your party while everyone else just dies forever) and are much more immersion breaking.

It is the same reason Temple of Elemental Evil (3.5) and Icewind Dale is so popular.

 

[Reinhardt]

you can even have demon invasion in local totally not-africa if you really want that diversity that much. and it would be much better and more interesting than nigger knights and nigger samurais.

 

[Tytus]

I'm going to say it.

Dragon Age should just have had a demon invasion on each game until it was the final archdemon.

This seems like an overused trope, but it is a trope for one reason : it works in video games. And it has been labelled such an overused trope it is hardly used anymore because it feels dumb. But it's not dumb. If you are of dubious morality and have immense power at your disposal, you invade . For no other reason that you can. Look at world history.

People watched GoT for the political drama but the real questions everyone was wondering was when the White Walkers would attack.

And if it feels repetitive, change the way it unfolds, change the part in the world, change the characters, change what's at stake. You can do a lot with such a simple preset.

Instead they went with political stories, treacheries, hidden agendas, etc etc but it doesn't work. They write convoluted shit that is dumb and fail to involve.

Bring back the demon invasions if you want to save D.A

It seems you are getting what you wanted 2 for the price of 1 in the next game.
Since Solas released the last two Archdemons (which are actually Elven Gods too)

 

[Infinitron]

Gaider pushing back timidly against the monster he helped create:

 

[9ted6]

I am not surprised by the fact that they are paid. I just wondered whether the trailer failure activated this propaganda machine to a greater extent than usual.

I'm just interested in the scale of the operation called Dragon Age Veilguard. Not only the amount of money spent, but also human commitment, work organization, but also the dedication of useful idiots. I have the impression that we are facing something gigantic, and at the same time based on psychosis. Because only psychosis can we call an irrational belief in the power of a brand that moves such great human forces. Ours too.

These multimillion dollar DEI brands are too big to fail, and their significance borderlines on the symbolic. Especially to the "fans" committed to their values.

There are some signs that we are past peak DEI/ESG though. BlackRock seems to move away from it since “forcing behaviour” as their plan was doesn’t actually seem to work, despite them trying for more than 10 years now. You can only finance so many multi billion dollar failures and the number of entertainment franchises (games, movies, series, etc) still untouched and ready to be infected and destroyed is dwindling. It’s just not a very good money making scheme, which is BlackRocks core business. So those DEI funds companies rely on may dry up soon (ish), which will force companies to make products for regular customers instead of their DEI overlords. Of course this could be just wishful thinking.

diverse teams outperform homogenous teams, inclusive organizations collaborate better

I agree. Games used to be pretty good when teams weren't forced to behave the same, live in the same places, share the exact same beliefs and universally scorn and exclude straight white men and women or conservative nonwhites.

 

[Fedora Master]

you can even have demon invasion in local totally not-africa if you really want that diversity that much.

 

[Child of Malkav]

I'm going to say it.

Dragon Age should just have had a demon invasion on each game until it was the final archdemon.

This seems like an overused trope, but it is a trope for one reason : it works in video games. And it has been labelled such an overused trope it is hardly used anymore because it feels dumb. But it's not dumb. If you are of dubious morality and have immense power at your disposal, you invade . For no other reason that you can. Look at world history.

People watched GoT for the political drama but the real questions everyone was wondering was when the White Walkers would attack.

And if it feels repetitive, change the way it unfolds, change the part in the world, change the characters, change what's at stake. You can do a lot with such a simple preset.

Instead they went with political stories, treacheries, hidden agendas, etc etc but it doesn't work. They write convoluted shit that is dumb and fail to involve.

Bring back the demon invasions if you want to save D.A

The only correct answer. GG.

 

[9ted6]

you can even have demon invasion in local totally not-africa if you really want that diversity that much.

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It's like instead of making a notAfrica fantasy world so they can have nothing but black people they want to take a European setting which realistically wouldn't have the same conditions or genetics present that lead to different races developing naturally and make random people random races, especially black, out of some kind of petty spite.

No one would complain about a game set in Africa with black people but instead they unironically culturally appropriate and want to have black people commonly living in pre-Roman Britain and shit. Point out how it's neither historically accurate nor genetically feasible and you're a racist.

I also like that besides Solas the oppressive god every elf in DA is now black or Asian.

 

[AwesomeButton]

The extension is not entirely accurate though, is it? I thought it's an estimation, not actual data from youtube?

 

[Fedora Master]

No one would complain about a game set in Africa with black people

The usual suspects hated Resident Evil 5 tho

 

[Lacrymas]

Gaider says a character is destroyed by being romanceable. You heard it here first.

 

[Bastardchops]

I am not surprised by the fact that they are paid. I just wondered whether the trailer failure activated this propaganda machine to a greater extent than usual.

I'm just interested in the scale of the operation called Dragon Age Veilguard. Not only the amount of money spent, but also human commitment, work organization, but also the dedication of useful idiots. I have the impression that we are facing something gigantic, and at the same time based on psychosis. Because only psychosis can we call an irrational belief in the power of a brand that moves such great human forces. Ours too.

These multimillion dollar DEI brands are too big to fail, and their significance borderlines on the symbolic. Especially to the "fans" committed to their values.

There are some signs that we are past peak DEI/ESG though. BlackRock seems to move away from it since “forcing behaviour” as their plan was doesn’t actually seem to work, despite them trying for more than 10 years now. You can only finance so many multi billion dollar failures and the number of entertainment franchises (games, movies, series, etc) still untouched and ready to be infected and destroyed is dwindling. It’s just not a very good money making scheme, which is BlackRocks core business. So those DEI funds companies rely on may dry up soon (ish), which will force companies to make products for regular customers instead of their DEI overlords. Of course this could be just wishful thinking.

There's something quite pathetic about citing "large bodies of research," to justify your hiring of talentless brown people as opposed to sales figures or audience reception.

 

[9ted6]

Gaider says a character is destroyed by being romanceable. You heard it here first.

He's somehow both a coomer and a prude.