Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Gaider says a character is destroyed by being romanceable. You heard it here first.

He's somehow both a coomer and a prude.

Gaider's homosexuality isn't performative, most of the xim xer of the current day and age "come out" just to continue their lives as lonely neets, but this time with a dress on.

 

[Wasteland]

There's something quite pathetic about citing "large bodies of research," to justify your hiring of talentless brown people as opposed to sales figures or audience reception.

"Diverse businesses outperform homogenous ones" is yet another well known case of reversed causality.

• Bigger companies are forced to be diverse, and the biggest ones care most about virtue signaling their commitment to diversity. (The biggest companies also benefit from regulatory capture and imposing barriers to entry on their competitors. A lot of the virtue signaling is sincere fart sniffing on the part of the extremely rich executive class, but a lot of it is extremely cynical.)
• Bigger companies make more money than smaller ones. QED, chuds.

At no point has anyone ever attempted to demonstrate that black lesbians can actually build productive businesses, and that's despite a mountain of incentives and advantages bestowed upon such enterprises. What such groups can do is build non-profit/NGO/"consultancy" businesses that are premised on whining about the lack of diversity in various industries, and that can be a gold mine, but even there I think we're starting to run up against limits. The end of ZIRP has already brought a lot of pain to a lot of parasites; the layoffs we see in gaming are largely due to that seismic shift in the availability of cheap money, for example--though at this point half or more of the entire West's economy seems tied up in parasitism of one sort or another; we won't be free of them any time soon.

Edited to add obligatory meme:

 

[Lodis]

Gaider says a character is destroyed by being romanceable. You heard it here first.

I read his tweet, he’s basically saying that making everyone a faggot limits character agency. Dorian’s daddy issues wouldn’t exist if he liked pussy, similarly Morrigan’s entire arc with the Warden wouldn’t be as impactful if she was into slamming clams. He also straight up called Dragon Age 2’s companions sex dolls that only exist so the player can kiss them.

Funny how he’s now pissing off the same group he spent so many years catering to. Wonder if he’s self aware enough to realize the irony.

 

[TheKing01]

Player-sexual is the assured norm (which conversely has the effect of making every romanceable character potentially pansexual) going forward.

No viable reason to think that will ever change.

 

[Lodis]

Player-sexual is the assured norm (which conversely has the effect of making every romanceable character potentially pansexual) going forward.

No viable reason to think that will ever change.

Owlcat seems to stick to their guns in this respect. But unfortunately you’re right, any major rpg with romance will go the playersexual route because they don’t want to risk angering the rainbow brigade.

 

[Tyrr]

I don't know about you, but I feel zero urge of romance looking at any of the Failguard companions.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Gaider pushing back timidly against the monster he helped create:

Gaider is like when Kant criticized Fichte, but even less self-consciously and complimentarily without a sense of personal responsibility.

 

[Semiurge]

I am not surprised by the fact that they are paid. I just wondered whether the trailer failure activated this propaganda machine to a greater extent than usual.

I'm just interested in the scale of the operation called Dragon Age Veilguard. Not only the amount of money spent, but also human commitment, work organization, but also the dedication of useful idiots. I have the impression that we are facing something gigantic, and at the same time based on psychosis. Because only psychosis can we call an irrational belief in the power of a brand that moves such great human forces. Ours too.

These multimillion dollar DEI brands are too big to fail, and their significance borderlines on the symbolic. Especially to the "fans" committed to their values.

Don't you think that's what's killing them?

Fanatics seem to be the publisher's guides and controllers of the entire fanbase. But if the fanatics lose touch with what the fanbase wants, people will run away from the brand, but the company will be unaware of this, relying on the fanatics.

I'm sure they're not unaware. And they're definitely aware that the majority doesn't care about these politics enough to boycot a game if they can pass the time with it.

Rags have been bought and paid for. We've known this for years, as much as we still like to point out the more obvious cases. What's new are bots and increased control of social media (reddit, tumblr, twitter, etc). Why do you think YouTube hide the dislike count? It's not for our benefit.

It's been a while since I've checked reddit, I wonder what enforced positivity cope they have now?

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They really are just asking people to love slop for what it is. They're no longer even pretending otherwise. It's sad watching the few negative posts that slip past (controlled opposition) get completely nuked by dislikes.

Redditors finally realizing the sub is completely censored:

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Meanwhile, steam forums have been on fire since the first trailer.

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Never trust a journo. Never trust EA.

Why does Valve allow this? Of all the big gaming platforms they seem like a big outlier in this regard.

Gaider says a character is destroyed by being romanceable. You heard it here first.

Excuses of bad, timid writers. Why the fuck does he base his bad argument on a claim that every companion has to be appealing (to the modern moralist sensibilities)? Another excuse of bad writing. Origins had Morrigan - a politically incorrect evil bitch, still romanceable. Mass Effect had Ashley - a bigot race realist. Romanceable. Even Varric the dashing dwarf rogue wouldn't need to sacrifice any of his "Varricness", imagine that he said to the player that he wasn't looking for anything serious, or that out of the blue he just dumps the PC because the PC "cramps his style" or something.

I realise that including such characters in today's games as companions would cause a shitstorm, regardless of whether they're romanceable. Goes with the territory of leftist rigidity, they only want to surround themselves with themselves and masturbate ad nauseum. This is why game devs fear writing "edgy" characters that pose troubling questions and challenge the player intellectually, or morally. All has turned into pandering.

Player-sexual is the assured norm (which conversely has the effect of making every romanceable character potentially pansexual) going forward.

No viable reason to think that will ever change.

Owlcat seems to stick to their guns in this respect. But unfortunately you’re right, any major rpg with romance will go the playersexual route because they don’t want to risk angering the rainbow brigade.

It's also got to do with providing the attention-deficit player the perfect first playthrough. Never mind creating characters that have their own desires.

 

[Faarbaute]

I love you, playername. You're the most beautiful playerprounoun in all of playerlocation.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I love you, playername. You're the most beautiful playerprounoun in all of playerlocation.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

I don't understand why people are so upset about this game. It looks as bad as Dragon Age Inquisition.

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

I don't understand why people are so upset about this game. It looks as bad as Dragon Age Inquisition.

Because somehow it manages to look worse

 

[Nifft Batuff]

I don't understand why people are so upset about this game. It looks as bad as Dragon Age Inquisition.

Because somehow it manages to look worse

Details.

 

[Storyfag]

I don't understand why people are so upset about this game. It looks as bad as Dragon Age Inquisition.

Yeah, only slightly worse than DAO.

 

[Tyranicon]

Why does Valve allow this? Of all the big gaming platforms they seem like a big outlier in this regard.

Steam forums has most of same moderation tools as other forums. The difference is that developers actually have to pay a person to delete all these individual threads on Steam forums, instead of having a bot or "unpaid" janny do it.

They can't keep up lol.

 

[Semiurge]

Why does Valve allow this? Of all the big gaming platforms they seem like a big outlier in this regard.

Steam forums has the most of same moderation tools as other forums. The difference is that developers actually have to pay a person to delete all these individual threads on Steam forums, instead of having a bot or "unpaid" janny do it.

They can't keep up lol.

I just assumed that Valve would have some general rules of conduct in place that prohibited any "flame-baiting" or edginess, because of the financial strings attached. And because such horsing about typically leads to more of it. By first glance you wouldn't guess that you're looking at Steam forums, instead some independent forum like the Codex.

The idea of developers being able to tell jannies to delete threads arbitrarily is repugnant. Steam, as the largest gaming distribution platform, wouldn't have to comply with that at all.

 

[Tyranicon]

Why does Valve allow this? Of all the big gaming platforms they seem like a big outlier in this regard.

Steam forums has the most of same moderation tools as other forums. The difference is that developers actually have to pay a person to delete all these individual threads on Steam forums, instead of having a bot or "unpaid" janny do it.

They can't keep up lol.

I just assumed that Valve would have some general rules of conduct in place that prohibited any "flame-baiting" or edginess, because of the financial strings attached. And because such horsing about typically leads to more of it.

IIRC Steam is very hands off with forum moderation, it takes extreme cases for a steam admin to step in.

For the most part, the forums are the fiefdoms of their individual developers. They can lock/delete threads and ban users at their leisure. A lot of developers abuse this function heavily to censor any negativity or criticism. But you still need a real person there to do that.

To their credit, it doesn't seem like the Veilguard steam forums are being heavily moderated or censored. Maybe they forgot about it.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

To their credit, it doesn't seem like the Veilguard steam forums are being heavily moderated or censored. Maybe they forgot about it.

Designated BioWare mod is in their dilation session. No time for handing out bans))

 

[Baron Dupek]

it begins

 

[Rahdulan]

Yeah, because comparing it to other action RPGs is going to help the game's case.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

I don't understand why people are so upset about this game. It looks as bad as Dragon Age Inquisition.

Not upset at all, I think it's hilarious.

 

[Lodis]

>jade king
Oh it’s that tranny with some of the shittiest takes I’ve ever read in my life. Naturally BioWare would hire him to shill.

 

[Ibn Sina]

Yeah, because comparing it to other action RPGs is going to help the game's case.

No.. If BG3 was made by bioware there would be absolute no option-- zero chance of getting to Kill dame Aylin the moment you meet her, never mind her lover. You will be forced to get along with them ... at best their would be options to be "disgruntled" at some of her opinions but still hold her respect... Nevermind the options to kill her in multiple ways, or even sell her to a male. That would be too triggering for the tumblr core fanbase.... I don't get this hate for BG3.... for all its faults the game allows you to take a butchers knife to any acts of wokeness the moment you see it and the game would acknowledge it and even be different narrative for it. DA would never allow such a thing, they WILL force you to play a goody too shoes person at all times and at best some kind of minor asshole. Look at how the factions they presented are all goody two shoes. You cannot roleplay as a tevinter loyalist , who loves tradition and slave owning. For tevinter you have to roleplay as a marxist rebel trying to overthrow the system! There is even no option for templars anymore.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

They had a Q&A on Discord , here is everything so far. Got from reddit:

Confirmed :

• No EA App/Account.
• No online Forced.
• No battlePass.
• No Multiplayer.
• Unique Singleplayer Exerperience
• No Microtransactions.
• 9 years since Trespasser
• Varric's hair will be shown in better lighting soon
• No Photomode so far. But they are willing to add it.
• You can pet Griffin
• CC will be shown as we get closer to the release date
• Transmogs confirmed
• Solas is definitely balder than Ever
• Crafting is back. A mysterious character will help us do the crafting throughout the whole game. Hinting at Sandal's Return. ENCHANTMENT!
• They will reveal which Game Editions exists and when we can pre-orders Soon
• PC Specs Soon
• The inquisitor will appear in the flesh and will be a part of this story with Solas
• Pasta and Noodles exist in Thedas
• Rook is neither a name nor a last name. our MC will have a race specific name, like in Inquisition but you can edit his first name.
• No explicit Ace companion. Romances are pansexual, not playersexual
• No Fetch quests
• Locations can is impacted by the choices we make throughout the story
• If Rook dies. You have to reload your last save or spectate your companions fighting and trying to revive you.(boo this one imo)
• Dual welding is for rogue Only
• Warriors are focused swords and Shields
• No war table type of mechanic that blocks progression
• No Mount and It will be explained in-game
• The Lighthouse which is the veilguard's base will have unique purposes and uniques.
• There are no Mabaris. As they are not popular in Northern Thedas
• Story is set a lot in North Thedas
• There are Stubbles and Beards
• Harding was brought back as she's the only one who has the most info about Solas
• No shards
• Rook should stay away from Blood Magic
• No fireball and Cone of Cold spells. They are replaced by Frost Nova and Meteor
  • Solas will speak in iambic pentameter
  • there are Tavern songs
• there’s a tavern called ‘’The Swan’’ in minrathous
• You can return to any areas to complete quests even if exploration is mission-based. It’s an open end world.
• those who were left in then fade question is not answered in the game but It could be in the future.
• You can Edit Rook’s 1st name and there’s a name generator
• LAASH confirmed
• Mage can have a ‘’combat’’ style
• Can’t kiss Manfred
• You can nap in the lighthouse
• There’s a very hard mode for those who like hard core combat
• Healing spells
• ability wheel capacity is 3 with Runes ans Ultimates
• Regret is a big theme in Veilguard
• There are definitely bigger threat than Solas
• You Can also Hug the Griffon
• No blood magic combat
• last name of the MC is based on your background/Race
• Alot of conversations are based on race
• Mage tree skill tree is packed with all kind of Perks ans Spells
• Necromancer specialization : 1 elemental and 1 that's ressembles combat mage

Unconfirmed/Hinted :

• Fights in Arlathan
• Expansions DLC
• Skeleton Romance
• Arachnophobia mode
• Photo mode