Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Kem0sabe]

The social media buzz around DAVe is probably the weirdest I've seen for a relatively mainstream game, obviously some of it seems inhuman because it's bots but there's stuff like this that I can't imagine any company would want to pay for.

Deviant community nurtured by the deviants at BioWare. Deviant fixations ensue.

The replies... Those fucking replies make me want to puke.

 

[Semiurge]

You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

The social media buzz around DAVe is probably the weirdest I've seen for a relatively mainstream game, obviously some of it seems inhuman because it's bots but there's stuff like this that I can't imagine any company would want to pay for.

Deviant community nurtured by the deviants at BioWare. Deviant fixations ensue.

The replies... Those fucking replies make me want to puke.

Reddit-tier humor.... plus troons fantasizing about what it's like to have periods. Something Awful was/is reddit's twin now - a safe space where troons smell each other's neovag queefs.

 

[Lodis]

It is also funny how they removed all possabilities to be a blood mage since inquisition. Like, it was among the few plot options where you can dabble with moral justifications, common for RPGs, like, does the end justify the means? or can you use blood magic for good deeds or be outright evil sorceror trope. The obvious answer is that they have no creatice capacity to invent a story that makes moral choices interesting, apart from simplet ones.

It's just the the trend with Bioware where they continue to make their protagonists as bland as "safe" as possible. You could do some pretty morally dubious shit in Origins like agreeing to a blood magic ritual to sacrifice a bunch of elves for a +1 Constitution score or making deals with Desire Demons because you were too busy thinking with your dick. Speaking of which these demons also got removed from Inquisition, a game all about demons invading the world which I always found funny.

 

[Space Satan]

Yeah, DAO had pretty neat options, apart from kill demon, save a child. Trading little girl's body to the desire demon, bargaining for connor's soul, selling elves to Tevinter, Loghain's fate, after all. No bioware sequels came even close to such choices. In inquisition you literally have only good outcomes and praises from all around you.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Though at least they didn't give her cloaca, which I think is the case for her species.

Githyanki and githzerai, as originally described in the 1981 Fiend Folio, were descended from humans. Another humanoid race called the gith were introduced in the Dark Sun campaign setting in 1991 and described as appearing to be a "peculiar mixture of elf and reptile", although there wasn't any mention of their reproductive methods at this time. The 1993 Monstrous Manual included an entry for gith and stated they were egg layers, which could have been explicitly introduced in some other Dark Sun product published by then or might have been an inference from the description of gith as appearing reptilian. In 1994, Dark Sun adventure module DSE2 Black Spine was published, and it was based around the gith being descended from a group of githyanki who had planned to conquer Athas only to be attacked by githzerai, resulting in them losing contact with their brethren and degenerating into an "elf and reptile" appearance. When Monte Cook wrote A Guide to the Astral Plane, released in 1996, either he or someone else at TSR must have noticed that gith are egg-laying (per the Monstrous Manual) and descended from githyanki (per DSE2 Black Spine), which led to the retcon of githyanki reproducing via egg-laying. Although the text of A Guide to the Astral Plane claims this might have been caused by illithid experiments, since the githzerai apparently have normal human reproductive systems and splintered from the githyanki after liberation from the illithids, this explanation does not make sense; the only alternative explanation offered is that the githyanki were altered by "exposure to some strange astral energies".

Really this is something that could and should have been reverted since then.

 

[NecroLord]

Though at least they didn't give her cloaca, which I think is the case for her species.

Githyanki and githzerai, as originally described in the 1981 Fiend Folio, were descended from humans. Another humanoid race called the gith were introduced in the Dark Sun campaign setting in 1991 and described as appearing to be a "peculiar mixture of elf and reptile", although there wasn't any mention of their reproductive methods at this time. The 1993 Monstrous Manual included an entry for gith and stated they were egg layers, which could have been explicitly introduced in some other Dark Sun product published by then or might have been an inference from the description of gith as appearing reptilian. In 1994, Dark Sun adventure module DSE2 Black Spine was published, and it was based around the gith being descended from a group of githyanki who had planned to conquer Athas only to be attacked by githzerai, resulting in them losing contact with their brethren and degenerating into an "elf and reptile" appearance. When Monte Cook wrote A Guide to the Astral Plane, released in 1996, either he or someone else at TSR must have noticed that gith are egg-laying (per the Monstrous Manual) and descended from githyanki (per DSE2 Black Spine), which led to the retcon of githyanki reproducing via egg-laying. Although the text of A Guide to the Astral Plane claims this might have been caused by illithid experiments, since the githzerai apparently have normal human reproductive systems and splintered from the githyanki after liberation from the illithids, this explanation does not make sense; the only alternative explanation offered is that the githyanki were altered by "exposure to some strange astral energies".

Really this is something that could and should have been reverted since then.

As an interesting little factoid, GRRM designed the githyanki.

 

[moon knight]

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

I got you, bro

 

[Darkwind]

It is also funny how they removed all possabilities to be a blood mage since inquisition. Like, it was among the few plot options where you can dabble with moral justifications, common for RPGs, like, does the end justify the means? or can you use blood magic for good deeds or be outright evil sorceror trope. The obvious answer is that they have no creatice capacity to invent a story that makes moral choices interesting, apart from simplet ones.

It's just the the trend with Bioware where they continue to make their protagonists as bland as "safe" as possible. You could do some pretty morally dubious shit in Origins like agreeing to a blood magic ritual to sacrifice a bunch of elves for a +1 Constitution score or making deals with Desire Demons because you were too busy thinking with your dick. Speaking of which these demons also got removed from Inquisition, a game all about demons invading the world which I always found funny.

Of course they did! Because in a game full of horrors such as Qunari troons and manly masculine presenting 'women' that are self-inserts for the blue haired landwhales and shapeless uggos that are the "modern audience" having an actually hot / fuckable demon is simply not allowed anymore. What they don't realize is that their gender bended spiteful mutants are the real stuff of nightmares to normal eyes far more than any grotesquery from the abyss. The demons are real, and they walk among us.

You needn't look farther than Stellar Blade which is an absolutely mid game but generated so much controversy simply by having an Asian waifu as the protagonist. That is modern gay-ming circa 2024.

 

[NecroLord]

It is also funny how they removed all possabilities to be a blood mage since inquisition. Like, it was among the few plot options where you can dabble with moral justifications, common for RPGs, like, does the end justify the means? or can you use blood magic for good deeds or be outright evil sorceror trope. The obvious answer is that they have no creatice capacity to invent a story that makes moral choices interesting, apart from simplet ones.

It's just the the trend with Bioware where they continue to make their protagonists as bland as "safe" as possible. You could do some pretty morally dubious shit in Origins like agreeing to a blood magic ritual to sacrifice a bunch of elves for a +1 Constitution score or making deals with Desire Demons because you were too busy thinking with your dick. Speaking of which these demons also got removed from Inquisition, a game all about demons invading the world which I always found funny.

Of course they did! Because in a game full of horrors such as Qunari troons and manly masculine presenting 'women' that are self-inserts for the blue haired landwhales and shapeless uggos that are the "modern audience" having an actually hot / fuckable demon is simply not allowed anymore. What they don't realize is that their gender bended spiteful mutants are the real stuff of nightmares to normal eyes far more than any grotesquery from the abyss. The demons are real, and they walk among us.

You needn't look farther than Stellar Blade which is an absolutely mid game but generated so much controversy simply by having an Asian waifu as the protagonist. That is modern gay-ming circa 2024.

Like you said, I never thought about the Dragon Age demons being removed because they were superfluous, as they are now just walking around us at this point...

 

[Elttharion]

You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

How is this white? He looks like an arab to me

 

[moon knight]

You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

How is this white? He looks like an arab to me

He looks more spanish/italian than arab(don't fucking tell me there's no difference)

His surname is also Dellamorte apparently (which is italian sounding, although in italian it would be Della Morte)

 

[Darkwind]

He looks more spanish/italian than arab(don't fucking tell me there's no difference)

His surname is also Dellamorte apparently (which is italian sounding, although in italian it would be Della Morte)

Umm, uhh... Italy bro... I guess I'm the one who has to break the news to you re: Arabs/Italians. Sorry for that!

 

[Joyvankek]

You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

How is this white? He looks like an arab to me

Arab or a semite in general.
Absolutely not an European.

Umm, uhh... Italy bro... I guess I'm the one who has to break the news to you re: Arabs/Italians. Sorry for that!

Not sure where you saw Italians like that.
I was in Italy multiple of times, they don't look like arabs/semites at all.
At least not the ones living close to Rome or from the south of Italy.

Nice video tho.

 

[Skinwalker]

Ancient Sicilians may have been the ancestors of the Philistines/Palestinians, so there might be some genetic overlap there.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

How is this white? He looks like an arab to me

He looks more spanish/italian than arab(don't fucking tell me there's no difference)

His surname is also Dellamorte apparently (which is italian sounding, although in italian it would be Della Morte)

 

[Semiurge]

You guys (probably) haven't noticed, but apparently the biggest-thirst trap so far is the old white dude, to the point where he's raking in the fanart/rule 34 and is even... Kotaku's official husbando?

View attachment 51131

What is happening?

People would rather fuck the old decrepit white man instead of the diverse characters

What about Lucanis? He's white, but also bland. Looks like Blackwall's skinnier brother.

How is this white? He looks like an arab to me

Still whiter than the nelf warden.

 

[Atlantico]

I find it interesting that the only elf companions on this game are black and asian. I guess the opressed and enslaved race couldn't be white anymore.

Elves are an inherent symbol of whiteness. A mythical race dreamt of by white people. An idealized European.

Just as every redheaded character must be replaced with an African in a crimson wig, you cannot eliminate the spirit of whiteness from media so long as the idea of elves remains intact.

When Lenin and co took over Russia and formed the Soviet Union, one of the first things they did was to destroy all of the tsarist monuments of the past so that no one would remember the dignity of what came before. In their place:

This ugly shit.

So too must the Left destroy what came before, or everyone will remember the old and say it was better.

Fixed that for you kike

Now: back to the ashtray

 

[Froila]

A large body of resarch proves diverse teams outperform homogenous teams

Just like in NASA.

May that large body means diversity in skill sets or in something else that directly affects performance?

For a healthy mind, concepts reflect things, and abstractions capture phenomena that go beyond the boundaries of the concrete.

For the ideological mind, concepts reflect ideological reality, which changes on political grounds.

Normally "diverse" means the same as "heterogeneous". This concept in itself does not tell us about the origin, about heterogeneous scale, about the hierarchy, etc.

For the Marxist ideology, every concept has its twin, but one is good and the other is bad. In this case, "diverse" is non-white-non-male, and on the other side is white supremacy and patriarchy. Asking obvious questions like "is there something in between?" or suggestions that the world is a little more complex means you're on the wrong side.

I always was amused how Hegelian dualismus - simplified and politicized by the marxists in the previous era - now is applied to sexual and ethnic differences, and I suspect that politicization is the only important part of this approach.
If this were not so, then modern multi-gender mumbo-jumbo would be based on something more reliable, like Ulrichs's concept of sexuality, and racial one would not represent a disgusting clown show remake of marxist class theory where capitalists oppressors just changed with "whites" and featureless oppressed masses - with "colored" (also featureless).

 

[Semiurge]

You needn't look farther than Stellar Blade which is an absolutely mid game but generated so much controversy simply by having an Asian waifu as the protagonist. That is modern gay-ming circa 2024.

Sony censored that with a patch, and not even well. Completely half-assed, no pun, because the changes to the outfits were completely random and very minor.

It reminds me of the Tomb Raider 1-3 remasters scandal where a patch made a couple of pinup posters disappear. The remasters also got a PS release, and the devs implied that the disappearance was no accident.

 

[Tyranicon]

Dragon Age then: Embark on a classic journey to save the world from evil.

Dragon Age now:

Apparently she's one of the writers that BioWare fired last year.

There was supposed to be some sort of boycott over the firings but EA shills said it wasn't very "fanlike" and the fandom agreed to give the friendly megacorp more money.

It's facepalms all the way down.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Fixed that for you kike

I see you're asshurt again, African. How sad for you.

 

[Semiurge]

Dragon Age then: Embark on a classic journey to save the world from evil.

Dragon Age now:

View attachment 51168

Apparently she's one of the writers that BioWare fired last year.

There was supposed to be some sort of boycott over the firings but EA shills said it wasn't very "fanlike" and the fandom agreed to give the friendly megacorp more money.

It's facepalms all the way down.

Well I can see why they let her go - she's still using the outdated binary term 'bisexual' instead of 'pansexual'.



Must be a filthy womb-haver too.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Yeah, DAO had pretty neat options, apart from kill demon, save a child. Trading little girl's body to the desire demon, bargaining for connor's soul, selling elves to Tevinter, Loghain's fate, after all. No bioware sequels came even close to such choices. In inquisition you literally have only good outcomes and praises from all around you.

I don't remember who it was, but one of the BioWare devs mentioned some time ago on Twitter (tweets now deleted) how he didn't believe that players should be allowed to make morally questionable choices in a game. Paging Roguey in case he knows who it was, but yeah. Peak clown world.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

technically, you can fuck up things in the war table missions, but the bad outcomes are just text fluff and not much else. you're locked out of things and that's it.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

On a more general note, there are also other devs that have occasionally talked about how most players don't go for evil playthroughs hence in turn fewer resources being allocated for evil content. Which is a travesty imho, but yeah.