Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[PunchYouInTheFace]

super fan and casuals going to say consider this game mediocre as fuck.

It's actually youtube "essayist" who are going to make the video.

Also, isn't too early for cope posting? Come on guys be more optimistic, the game still can be worse than Andromeda and all our hopes and prayers are answered... by EA dismantling BioWare forever and committed all their resources to produces proper slop for proper retard like FC69 and Madden420!

 

[InD_ImaginE]

FC and Madden career mode is more of an RPG than Veilguard gonna be

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

terminally online

You're on RPG Chudex, you're not only also a terminally online, but likely son of a whore and an inbred or worse.. "Polish". Keep up with the program, son or go back to X (formerly known as twatter).

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

FC and Madden career mode is more of an RPG than Veilguard gonna be

For folk who think "jrpg" is also "RPG", it probably is.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

The game going to sell well just like Inquisition and Starfield did but one or two year later anyone beyond horny motherfuckers super fan and casuals going to say consider this game mediocre as fuck.

I don’t see it doing as well as Inquisition did, and it’s definitely not hitting the “over 13 million players” in a few months numbers Starfield did.

People don’t care about BioWare like they did a decade ago. It’s not even like Inquisition was good, but BioWare had Andromeda and Anthem both happened post Inquisition, so the good will isn’t what it once was; and the good will was started to get fucked before Inquisition. The market is also flush with better looking options for action games and action RPGs than what this new Dragon Age game looks like. I’m thinking it probably has worse sales on release than Dragon Age 2 and 3. In a year where people have so many other options I don’t see this doing well. It probably get drowned out by just Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred and Metaphor: ReFantazio in October. It doesn’t seem like anyone really cares about this game, and when I look at it, it makes me think BioWare is probably lucky that at the moment gamers seem to be largely distracted by Dustborn, Concord, and Black Myth: Wukong to notice this.

 

[Zeriel]

Yeah, I don't see where people think this will sell like gangbusters. Even mediocre "big" new titles get a huge preorder surge on Steam, Veilguard couldn't even get that. Maybe it will sell enough to be a profit, but so far it seems like Bioware's reputation and allure for the normie casual (which is who they wanted to make games for in the first place, remember) is in the dumpster after Anthem.

This kind of reminds me of Diablo: Immortal actually. The whole "ewww ugly" aura, complete lack of enthusiasm from the core gamers, etc. However where D:I was a success was because it was aggressively monetized and designed to be a sell-out, Veilguard is an aborted sell out with no aggressive monetization stream, so if it isn't popular on release it's fucked.

They probably should have stuck with the live-service plan. What they get here is the worst of all worlds: a game that bears all the legacies of being a sell-out live-service title and as a result has people turn their nose up at it, but without the economic benefit of that sellout model.

 

[Paul_cz]

I am glad Steam has the concurrent peak numbers and review numbers so we will know immediately how much of a smashing success this will be.

I do think it will get around 50K CCUs. Not great, probably a failure, but not Concord-level megaflop.

 

[TC Jr]

The limited skill choices reminds me of Guild Wars 1, but in GW1 you had 8, not 4. There's no need for a ginormous PoE-like skill tree that is mostly full of passives in the vein of "+10% necrotic dmg".

Exactly. With this approach you can have "hundreds" of skills, if most of them add +1% to specific damage type. And they can go "look how complex this is". And if you read the comments there's a chick there that praises the reduction in complexity because it makes her brain hurt. No joke.
Ah, here it is:

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

I am glad Steam has the concurrent peak numbers and review numbers so we will know immediately how much of a smashing success this will be.

....On PC. The game will be on Console, too.

 

[Aarwolf]

Everything is fine

 

[Paul_cz]

....On PC. The game will be on Console, too.

These days usually game that bombs on PC also bombs on console and vice versa, with Concord being latest example.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Everything is fine

Ah yes, the mysterious, ancient, elongated skulls from Peru. Well, mystery solved.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

....On PC. The game will be on Console, too.

These days usually game that bombs on PC also bombs on console and vice versa, with Concord being latest example.

For sure, but when the numbers are in between what arbitrary considered as "Success" or "Flop", looking at complete picture would be better.

This game probably ended up being just Okay, can't be worse than Concord because literally nobody cares about Concord.

 

[Cryomancer]

by EA dismantling BioWare forever and committed all their resources to produces proper slop for proper retard like FC69 and Madden420!

You talk as if is a bad thing. Bioware is no longer the same bioware from 90s/early 00s. Now is full of diversity hires lead by a "gendermancer". I wish that Failguard will be a Concord tier failure but the most optimistic case scenario for me would be Anthem tier failure.

 

[Tyrr]

2024 is the year of reckoning for western gaming.
- Dustborn
- Star Wars Outlaws
- Concord
- Assassin's Creed Shadows
- Dragon Age Veilguard
- ...

It will all go down.

 

[Lacrymas]

Reckoning for Western AAA* games. Not that Eastern AAA games are much better, just more popular/sell more.

 

[Cryomancer]

Not that Eastern AAA games are much better,

The monkey game is good. Elden RIng DLC is good. Dragons Dogma 2 was okish if compared to western releases. They aren't perfect but are much better than any AAA western game.

 

[Lacrymas]

Only if you like that sort of gameplay. It's a bit mindless to me, just effective in covering that up, but ymmv.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

You talk as if is a bad thing

Why do you think I think it's a bad thing?

That wasn't an ironic statement. I meant it. I think BioWare has been "bad" since Baldur's Gate 1, BioWare literally never changes, they've been doing what they're doing right now since the very beginning:
1. Simplification of RPG system (Mass Effect (2005))
2. Railroaded infantile dialogue. (Baldur's Gate 1)
3. Minimalistic player agency. (basically all of their games)
4. Woke.

If you think they bad only in the last 15 years, you're sorely mistaken, again, they have been bad since the very beginning.

The difference between you and I is that I've realized this way earlier than you - and even after literal decades of their existence, the only thing that made you think that they're bad is because they let you fuck men in the ass, lol.

The difference between you and I is that when Carth Onasi said Bigotry never out of style back in the early 2000s, I knew they are woke, but it took you decades and slight cosmetic changes of what basically identical message to realize they are woke.

The difference between you and I is that when I play Baldur's Gate 2 and see Viconia being prosecuted solely because of her race, I knew it's a political statement, but you can't see it, because you think Viconia is white.

I would definitely prefer for BioWare to be dead, rather than lived as EA's proxy to generate money.

 

[Cryomancer]

If you think they bad only in the last 15 years, you're sorely mistaken, again, they have been bad since the very beginning.

Despite any criticism towards BG1 and other old BioWare games, they are still much, much better than post Dragon Age Origins BioWare games. Sure, NwN1 is much "dumbed down" compared to ToEE, but NwN1 still a amazing game.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Despite any criticism towards BG1 and other old BioWare games, they are still much, much better than post Dragon Age Origins BioWare games. Sure, NwN1 is much "dumbed down" compared to ToEE, but NwN1 still a amazing game.

So you're telling me, Mass Effect 1, the game that literally popularized dumbed down dialogue wheel is good? The game that allows you to berate Terra Firma, which basically proxy to conservative politic is good? Imagine if it was released today lmao. NWN OC with its infantile dialogue and binary morality? SOTU that recontextualize Kobold via Deekin - which sounds a lot like what current year WoTC politics trying to recontextualize Orc? KOTOR with Mary Sue character like Bastila? if KOTOR was released today, I bet your ass some retard youtuber going to pick up the similarity between her and Rey, the woke protagonist from Star Woke.

I mean, if you want to dislike something, don't draw an arbitrary line because you're too dumb to figure out BioWare "artistic expression".

 

[Cryomancer]

Mass Effect 1, the game that literally popularized dumbed down dialogue wheel is good?

No, just less shitty than whatever Failguard will be.

I dropped Ass effect 1 and never completed it. Failguard, I would't waste my money or time on it. Shit talking the game is more fun but playing it will be a torment. Just a meme :

 

[Atlantico]

Origins gave you a party in which every member was white besides Sten (vaguely brown qunari), Shale (a magically animated artifact) and the dog (a dog) and only ever showed People of Gender in order to mock cross-dressers. It was hardly the peak of social conservatism but anybody claiming that it was always "woke" in the way that those steam users are complaining about has incurred severe brain damage or is being disingenuous. In the case of Jim Sterling it's clearly both.

Yea some people are too dumb to understand nuance. For example the claims Witcher 3 was woke because of that dragqueen elven tailor or Kingdom Come was woke because you could play as a woman in one of the DLCs.

As much as I like to poke fun at retarded wokistas, we got some dumb motherfuckers in our camp as well, that's for goddamn sure.

W3 is postmodernist "the real monsters are humans" hyperbullshit

It is woke. Woke is a large tent and isn't limited to dangerhairs and BLMs.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Mass Effect 1, the game that literally popularized dumbed down dialogue wheel is good?

No, just less shitty than whatever Failguard will be.

I dropped Ass effect 1 and never completed it. Failguard, I would't waste my money or time on it. Shit talking the game is more fun but playing it will be a torment. Just a meme :

oh brother, you literally can't see shit beyond cosmetics.

 

[Alienman]

Not that Eastern AAA games are much better,

The monkey game is good. Elden RIng DLC is good. Dragons Dogma 2 was okish if compared to western releases. They aren't perfect but are much better than any AAA western game.

Monkey Man game - Dark Souls clone number 34324, but somehow looking incredibly spastic, and weird.

Elden Ring DLC - literally more Dark souls.

Dragon's Dogma 2 - One of the most disappointing sequels I have ever played. Thin game that lost 90% of its soul from the original.

It's been all around a bad time, unless you enjoy playing Dark Souls-likes forever and ever.