Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

6head Quanari

Shit, this looks so stupid I thought it was an edited picture.

 

[Semiurge]

Fuck, so that thing is from Veilguard then. Quns have been reduced to hydrocephalic children with horns. They no longer look like an ogroid species.

I guess this change makes their faces more kissable, but the rougher appearance didn't stop people from romancing Bull.

 

[Child of Malkav]

"Skills are traits."

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Are we witnessing DEI hires from around 2019-2020 bearing their rotten fruit? Will the higher ups and investors finally wake up to the fact troons and other assorted LGBT freaks are good for nothing and actually cost them huge sums in loses?

Nah, who am I kidding

This game feels like it’s going to be a reckoning for BioWare. EA has seemingly given them all the leeway they could possibly want because BioWare had a positive reputation and it made EA look good that they had this largely beloved studio that was basically allowed to just do whatever and make their games.

But I don’t think anyone really gives a shit about BioWare anymore. At least modern BioWare. The larger audience they had started moving away from them a decade, and people really started to turn on them once Anthem came out. EA is only going to let a studio fuck around for so long, and this game is likely the tipping point.

 

[Just Locus]

I've noticed that Dragon Age fans absolutely hate Dragon Age, so it's no surprise. [...]

This feels like saying "All Elder Scrolls fans hate Elder Scrolls" when in reality, it's more or less like there are two categories of fans who hate each other (tribalism), the same applies to Fallout.

If all Dragon Age 2 did was expand and build upon Origins and not turn into a medieval mass effect, I don't think there'd be such a divide between the fanbase.

 

[Larianshill]

This game feels like it’s going to be a reckoning for BioWare. EA has seemingly given them all the leeway they could possibly want because BioWare had a positive reputation and it made EA look good that they had this largely beloved studio that was basically allowed to just do whatever and make their games.

I don't think the doomsaying is appropriate here. Veilguard will sell modestly well thanks to the hordes of wine mom Biodrones, who will gladly eat up anything. It won't be spectacular, but it won't be the Concord.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Fuck, so that thing is from Veilguard then. Quns have been reduced to hydrocephalic children with horns. They no longer look like an ogroid species.

I guess this change makes their faces more kissable, but that didn't stop people from romancing Bull.

It’s the player character in that IGN First Look video that was posted earlier.

Skip to 1:38 in the video.

 

[Ibn Sina]

The game is less then 2 month? before release and is being outselled by bathroom cleaner simulator. I am not joking look it up lol. Its not even in the top 50..

 

[Child of Malkav]

"Skills are traits."

"That you can activate."

 

[Semiurge]

Fuck, so that thing is from Veilguard then. Quns have been reduced to hydrocephalic children with horns. They no longer look like an ogroid species.

I guess this change makes their faces more kissable, but that didn't stop people from romancing Bull.

It’s the player character in that IGN First Look video that was posted earlier.

Skip to 1:38 in the video.

Oh man, that qunari-Rook looks like some member of a warlike species on Star Trek, who's purpose is basically to prove to the humans that his race is not all that bad after all. These characters are usually young and pretty in appearance in order to underline their innocence and humanity, even when they're not human. There's nothing alien about their facial features anymore, like there was in DA 1-3.

Like with the nelf Davrin, the quns are now humans with bad makeup and prosthetics. All probably because of current politics and so that the sex cutscenes look appealing to normos.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

This game feels like it’s going to be a reckoning for BioWare. EA has seemingly given them all the leeway they could possibly want because BioWare had a positive reputation and it made EA look good that they had this largely beloved studio that was basically allowed to just do whatever and make their games.

I don't think the doomsaying is appropriate here. Veilguard will sell modestly well thanks to the hordes of wine mom Biodrones, who will gladly eat up anything. It won't be spectacular, but it won't be the Concord.

I’m not sure it sells well when there’s so many other “Action RPGs” on the market to play. I think if it was a decade ago this probably would’ve done just fine for BioWare, if it was any time between the late 2000s and early 2010s this likely would’ve done well for them. But they’ve been jerking off for around a decade developing different versions of Dragon Age 4, and they’re releasing a fairly mediocre looking action game into a market where FromSoftware is now huge, and there’s many other better options to play.

I don’t think this will be a Concord level disaster, but I don’t think it sells well either, and I don’t think it sells well enough for all the time and money that’s went into it.

 

[aweigh]

So I'm sure the soy critics will give this at least a 7/10 just for the cause, maybe more.

DA Veilguard is 100% guaranteed positive critic reviews. This is a foregone conclusion.

 

[Lacrymas]

The limited skill choices reminds me of Guild Wars 1, but in GW1 you had 8, not 4. There's no need for a ginormous PoE-like skill tree that is mostly full of passives in the vein of "+10% necrotic dmg".

 

[Child of Malkav]

The limited skill choices reminds me of Guild Wars 1, but in GW1 you had 8, not 4. There's no need for a ginormous PoE-like skill tree that is mostly full of passives in the vein of "+10% necrotic dmg".

Exactly. With this approach you can have "hundreds" of skills, if most of them add +1% to specific damage type. And they can go "look how complex this is". And if you read the comments there's a chick there that praises the reduction in complexity because it makes her brain hurt. No joke.
Ah, here it is:

 

[Tyranicon]

I don't know in what universe 5,754 is 38% of 9,301 but here you go. I flunked basic math lol.

The people are voicing their disapproval.

All the top comments are basically:

 

[Child of Malkav]

We'll see if all this astroturfing is going to translate into actual good sales.

 

[Camel]

Veilguard will have The Acolyte/Rings of Power-style backlash from the remains of BioWare's fandom. Steam and Youtube comments are absolutely damning.

 

[Naraya]

I don't know in what universe 5,754 is 38% of 9,301 but here you go.

The people are voicing their disapproval.

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All the top comments are basically:

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C'mon man. It's 38% of all votes (9301+5754).

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.ea.com/games/dragon-age/dragon-age-the-veilguard/news/combat-and-progression

Progression & Companions​

An inside look into Rook & Companions’ progression​

Hello everyone,
It’s September already! Today, we want to dive deeper into Progression, Items, and Companions with this blog and accompanying videos (minor spoilers in the video). Hopefully after today, players will have a better sense of how to customize Rook and unite the Veilguard.

Skill Tree Progression​

Reaching a max level of 50, Rook will be able to have a unique playstyle tuned to deliver coordinated attacks alongside their Companions. The largest experience boosts come from completing quests. The bigger and more momentous the quest the better the bonus will be. Rook also gains experience from killing enemies and exploring, but gaining levels is most efficient when helping the people of Thedas or taking time to deepen Rook’s bond with the Veilguard.

After enough experience points, Rook will level up and be awarded with a Skill Point to place in the Skill Tree. The Constellation Skill Tree lays out all the possible areas of growth, with the types of skills denoted by the shape:

• Large circle: Class (core skills and weapon proficiencies)
• Diamond: Ability (can be assigned to an Ability slot)
• Medium circle: Major Passive or Ability Upgrade (adds effects or modifies existing Abilities or stats, like guaranteeing a critical hit on knockdown or extending range)
• Small hexagon: Trait (modifies existing class skill, like counter-attack, extending an attack combo or missile block/return)
• Small circle: Minor Passive or Stat Boost (increases efficacy of Abilities, Passive, or stats)

Node selections are designed to harmonize into cohesive builds. This ensures that Rook’s strength is always growing as the playstyle is being refined. Still, if another path calls to the player instead, Skill Points can be refunded (individually or the entire skill tree) at any time, with no resource costs, and spent elsewhere.
Each Class will also have access to three Specialization Areas, outlined in our Combat blog. Rook can gain powerful Abilities tuned to the theme of that Specialization, after unlocking it. While the Specialization Areas are themed by Faction, they are not restricted to a Rook of that Faction. For example, a Grey Warden Rook can still take the Veil Ranger Specialization if they are a Rogue.

Item Progression​

There will be a plethora of equipment to find or buy throughout Thedas, including weapons, armor, and accessories. Each item will have its own stats and properties. With respect to weapon and armor advancement, duplicate items empower them to increase stats and unlock additional properties.

For more upgrades, Rook will find the Caretaker’s Workshop in the Lighthouse, as seen in the screenshot, where equipment can be upgraded and enchanted to unlock additional effects for Rook and their Companions. Upgraded equipment will receive increased stats. There will be a list of basic enchantments to start with, but each time Rook upgrades the rank of the Caretaker’s Workshop, more enchantments will become available. Each item or Ability can have a single enchantment applied to it, and each enchantment can only be used on a single item or Ability at a time.
Rook will be aligned with a Faction of the player’s choosing from the beginning of the game. The chosen Faction will influence the initial appearance of Rook, particularly when dressed in casual wear. However, don’t worry about getting locked into any specific style since any visible armor can be ‘transmogrify-ed’ to resemble another that has been collected, via the Wardrobe in the Lighthouse. There will also be appearance-only armors, such as the Blood Dragon Armor for pre-orders, and casual outfits. You can find these at some merchants and found by exploring over time. This gives the player the ability to tailor Rook’s appearance independent of tantalizing stat boosts and upgrades.

Companions’ Progression​

Rook’s Companions are equally important to success as the player endeavors to save Thedas. Members of the Veilguard each have their own Levels and each level gained grants them 2 Skill Points. Each companion will have quests to deepen Rook’s bond with them, and this is one of the main ways for them to gain experience. Companions also can gain experience through unique conversations and decisions with them. These quests and bonds are not limited to romantic interests; platonic friendships are just as important and in focus in Dragon Age: The Veilguard.

Rook will be able to take two Companions on missions. Each Companion has their own set of gear to manage, which can be upgraded and enchanted at the Caretaker’s Workshop, as well. Companions also have Primer and Detonator abilities that can combine with each other or Rook in combat. Each Primer has a matching Detonator. Using the correct combination, a Detonation will trigger - dealing increased damage across an area and increased stagger. For example, as seen in the video, Rook can use Toxic Dash to prime the target with the Sundered status, and Neve detonates it with her Icebreaker Ability.
These videos have highlighted the three main areas of Progression in Dragon Age: The Veilguard. Rook and the Veilguard will grow throughout the game, and there’s plenty of builds to explore. We’ve put the videos all together; so they can be watched uninterrupted! Check out the full video below.

As Rook journeys through Thedas, overcoming challenges, forging alliances, and facing down the corrupt Elven gods, their strength and power will grow. It will be up to the player to define what kind of Rook and Veilguard will emerge from this conflict. Will you be the hero?
We’re in the thick of it now; so we’ll be back soon with more details on missions and exploration! This month, IGN will also be releasing exclusive content; so keep an eye out. Chat soon!
- The Dragon Age Community Team

 

[kapisi]

Look at them Grey Wardens.

Please redeem saar!

I thought Mr. Hair there on the right was sitting or something

Then I watched the video and Jesus Christ that is a motherfucking dwarf. I jus I just can't

 

[Elttharion]

This game feels like it’s going to be a reckoning for BioWare. EA has seemingly given them all the leeway they could possibly want because BioWare had a positive reputation and it made EA look good that they had this largely beloved studio that was basically allowed to just do whatever and make their games.

I don't think the doomsaying is appropriate here. Veilguard will sell modestly well thanks to the hordes of wine mom Biodrones, who will gladly eat up anything. It won't be spectacular, but it won't be the Concord.

I’m not sure it sells well when there’s so many other “Action RPGs” on the market to play. I think if it was a decade ago this probably would’ve done just fine for BioWare, if it was any time between the late 2000s and early 2010s this likely would’ve done well for them. But they’ve been jerking off for around a decade developing different versions of Dragon Age 4, and they’re releasing a fairly mediocre looking action game into a market where FromSoftware is now huge, and there’s many other better options to play.

I don’t think this will be a Concord level disaster, but I don’t think it sells well either, and I don’t think it sells well enough for all the time and money that’s went into it.

On Steam its doing pretty badly for a game releasing in less than two months. 42 spot on most wishlisted games. 144 on top sales and just 57,034 followers.

Kingdom Come 2 as a comparison is on the 142 spot for sales, 24 spot for wishlists and has 80,799 followers. And that game only comes out next year.

 

[DemonKing]

DA Veilguard is 100% guaranteed positive critic reviews. This is a foregone conclusion.

Concord also got decent reviews and look how that went.

I don't think this will land so badly, but it's already looking like the usual nu-Bioware "failed to meet expectations" project.

 

[Tyranicon]

The real question is if they can make enough sales to get to Mass Effect or no.

Just looking at the videos, you can tell they sunk some serious cash into the game. Thankfully for BioWare, their audience is completely different from the one from Concord (which really, really misunderstood who played hero shooters).

But... the facial animations look so rough that there's a good chance this is gonna pull an Andromeda and become a laughingstock.

 

[Thalstarion]

It'll sell well amongst the terminally online, so it's definitely going to get more sales than Concord. That being said, the character designs are largely unappealing and each subsequent game after Origins has eroded more of what made the setting so memorable in the first place.

The average gamer is far more likely to pick up RPG's if someone like Geralt of Rivia or Henry from KCD is the protagonist as well as front and centre in the marketing.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

The game going to sell well just like Inquisition and Starfield did but one or two year later anyone beyond horny motherfuckers super fan and casuals going to say consider this game mediocre as fuck.