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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

n0wh3r3

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Interesting that one, it's actually one of the better critiques around from a gameplay analysis point of view, and especially interesting in coming from a trannie's perspective. Seems like a smart, uh, person [Jew? going by the name, maybe] who understands that this sort of crap is not going to make people more friendly to people like him, but quite the opposite.

Looks like this "game" is in freefall in every way now.

I just started watching the video and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started. Persona 4 got a far more superior and mature writing. And it is a game about teenagers.
 

Falksi

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Disclaimer: I know very little about DA, just the basics, such as what in general is the Blight, Fade, etc.

So, there's a scene in Veilgaurd where Rook and company find Solas' lyrium dagger. They look at it for a few seconds and Harding decides to push Rook (who is also a dwarf btw) away and go and grab it herself.
I'm not asking about what happened next, I'm asking what made her act this way. Again: no spoilers please.

1) Since the wiki tells me that processed lyrium is safe for anyone to touch, why did Harding go out of her way to make sure she's the one who picks it up? Did I miss anything about the dagger? Was it known to be dangerous or possibly dangerous and she just wanted to protect the rest of the team?
2) Since I don't actually know: is the lyrium dagger made with processed lyrium or unprocessed? Or does no one knows and maybe that's why Harding grabbed it, since dwarves are more resistant to unprocessed lyrium?
3) Am I simply missing something about the intel the team had about the dagger?

Again, please: no spoilers, not even a hint. Just wanna know some facts that one would know at that point of the game. I really don't get why Harding acted that way and just want to know why. Seemed very stupid, but I'd rather give the writers some benefit of the doubt (I know, I know...). If it's just "writers were being stupid", so be it. I just want to be sure, because maybe it's my lack of knowledge of the universe or maybe I missed something.
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Necrensha

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Brother, this is a female-brain game.
(Protagonist) is there merely to observe the BADDASS woman do all the actual important stuff like grabbing the macguffin. This should be obvious.
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Xorazm

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Interesting that one, it's actually one of the better critiques around from a gameplay analysis point of view, and especially interesting in coming from a trannie's perspective. Seems like a smart, uh, person [Jew? going by the name, maybe] who understands that this sort of crap is not going to make people more friendly to people like him, but quite the opposite.

Looks like this "game" is in freefall in every way now.

I just started watching the video and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started. Persona 4 got a far more superior and mature writing. And it is a game about teenagers.


Folks may not like the messenger, but this is one of the most savage takedowns of the game I've seen. Not just the points made, but because in this one the anger seems genuinely real, not someone who is annoyed they wasted their time with a bad game, but someone who feels betrayed as a series fan and horrified by their representation.

Also mentions a link I had to look up - Why Dragon Age: The Veilguard Uses The Term 'Non-Binary' - which is a useful, if annoying/painful read, that amounts to - yes, the insertion of anachronistic, modern dialog can be immersion shattering, but it's okay but it vibes with my politics. And has the nerve to slate Inquisition (and trust me, I have no love for that one) for handling the same issue by inventing a term that fit the setting:

>In Inquisition, there was a trans character (Krem), but he didn't use the word 'transgender', and a Qunari word that sounded more fantastical was made up to fit the world. But it also, to me as a trans woman, felt like an excuse for not committing to the bit. He's not really trans, he's this fictional thing ... Taash is non-binary and not some fictional concoction of guttural consonants.

These people are their own worst enemies.
 

Lyric Suite

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and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started

Let it flow

It's offensively bad. What is this intended for? 6 y/o braindead children?


Yes, most likely. After all their object is to force society to accept their shit so gotta catch them while they are young, since adults are too set in their ways to change. Same deal as their drag story hour for kids.

But there's probably another element at work which is their desire to have this degeneracy being seen as "normal". Now there's nothing more wholesome than entertainment for children, so they think by keeping everything on a childish level they also end up making their degeneracy look "clean" and "safe".

Lastly, those people are tourists who have no idea what fantasy is actually about. This is an element that runs through millenial writing as a whole, this feeling the writer is condescending to the audience while bieng completely uninterested in the setting or medium. Millenial writing has that whole "hello, fellow kids" vibe to it.
 

Semiurge

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I think that they actually may give it awards. It's a 10/10 game, after all, a return to form. As good as Origins, maybe even better!

It's even vindicated in hindsight by Adolf Trump's victory. A game such as Dragon Age: The Veilguard™ can only be viewed as a brave (and stunning) message from the brightest creative minds of our generation that says we are not willing to sink back to the dark ages, back to misogyny, sexism, racism and bigotry. Together we stand and divided we fall, sisters in arms.
 

Semiurge

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Is there still a market for cringeshots of the writing?

And yes, when Modern Audience character says "doing it," it does in fact mean exactly what Modern Audience would say.

Fantasy world? In-universe consistent writing? Never heard of them. Someone call HR.


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The dialogue looks almost 1:1 to the kind of social media lingo used by teenage girls and young adults, with some modern idpol flavor on top. I'm surprised that so far there hasn't been a single "y'all" in the dialogue.

Is this a "hello fellow kids" moment, just plain incompetence, or a deliberate decision to skip writing a believable extension to Dragon Age lore and instead going straight to the Tumblerisation phase? For all we know the writers themselves are a part of the Tumbler scene, it would certainly fit their personality profiles.

and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started

Let it flow

These small bits actually make the game kinda enjoyable lmao, wonder if the whole game is like that


Some of those scenes, when lifted out of context, are actually funny in a sick way. Far from sophisticated humor of course, but this strangely sanitised crudeness is a trademark of modern Bioware. A quality I've outgrown from tolerating long ago though.

Playing Rook as a jokester would be the only way this game could be made tolerable, it simply can't work when taken seriously unless you're a 10 year old.
 

Odoryuk

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Playing Rook as a jokester would be the only way this game could be made tolerable, it simply can't work when taken seriously unless you're a 10 year old.
It feels like a dnd campaign that is run entirely by zoomers with some gen alpha players as well. Say thanks there's no skibidi toilets running around
 

Yosharian

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These small bits actually make the game kinda enjoyable lmao, wonder if the whole game is like that

Some of those scenes, when lifted out of context, are actually funny in a sick way.
Yeah, it's actually really funny lol! Do you like The Big Bang Theory too? That's my favourite TV show! My favourite bit is when the man says BAZINGA lmao!
 

Odoryuk

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Orud

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The consensus is that the combat is good/fine. It’s the lack of depth, bad writing and faggotry that everyone has problems with.
It's not 'good' combat if it's only entertaining in the first few hours of a game that spans several dozens of hours, dude. If people start turning down the difficulty to skip that part of the game faster, it's NOT good.

ME3's combat was also a puddle deep, but it was entertaining as hell. Even years after ME3 was released you still had a healthy multiplayer population.
 

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