Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Harthwain]

Wow this is next level mental illness

More like someone desperately trying to defend his job. But this is no surprise, considering that YouTubers can be independent and provide video to back up their opinions, unlike the journalists, who may not even have played a game they supposedly reviewed.

Caste system in Orzammar never really made sense though. How is it even feasible for dwarves to have a large underclass who serve no purpose except drain their resources? They cannot fight in the army as cannon fodder, they can't do any jobs which leads them towards crime. Why even keep them in the city then, what's their point?

The whole point of the caste system is to make a case for a nonsensical system that ought to be dismantled on the grounds of logic. It is not supposed to make sense or be sustainable. In case of the latter, you could make an argument that revolutions happened exactly because people finally got enough from that particular system and wanted a change.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Disclaimer: I know very little about DA, just the basics, such as what in general is the Blight, Fade, etc.

So, there's a scene in Veilgaurd where Rook and company find Solas' lyrium dagger. They look at it for a few seconds and Harding decides to push Rook (who is also a dwarf btw) away and go and grab it herself.
I'm not asking about what happened next, I'm asking what made her act this way. Again: no spoilers please.

1) Since the wiki tells me that processed lyrium is safe for anyone to touch, why did Harding go out of her way to make sure she's the one who picks it up? Did I miss anything about the dagger? Was it known to be dangerous or possibly dangerous and she just wanted to protect the rest of the team?
2) Since I don't actually know: is the lyrium dagger made with processed lyrium or unprocessed? Or does no one knows and maybe that's why Harding grabbed it, since dwarves are more resistant to unprocessed lyrium?
3) Am I simply missing something about the intel the team had about the dagger?

Again, please: no spoilers, not even a hint. Just wanna know some facts that one would know at that point of the game. I really don't get why Harding acted that way and just want to know why. Seemed very stupid, but I'd rather give the writers some benefit of the doubt (I know, I know...). If it's just "writers were being stupid", so be it. I just want to be sure, because maybe it's my lack of knowledge of the universe or maybe I missed something.

Someone add this asshole to the list

I know you guys at these forums are extremely assholish in general, but can you at least explain what I did wrong?

You bought or pirated a shit game. Dont be a enabler of decline.

Now, time to barve.

I would recommend using your brain instead of being a mindless drone, though. Play the game first before you judge it - that's the sensible thing to do. But I know you mindless drones refuse to use your brains, so I don't expect you to wisen up. Anyway, offtopic, so fuck off from the thread.

'Sup Drog

 

[Skinwalker]

Disclaimer: I know very little about DA, just the basics, such as what in general is the Blight, Fade, etc.

So, there's a scene in Veilgaurd where Rook and company find Solas' lyrium dagger. They look at it for a few seconds and Harding decides to push Rook (who is also a dwarf btw) away and go and grab it herself.
I'm not asking about what happened next, I'm asking what made her act this way. Again: no spoilers please.

1) Since the wiki tells me that processed lyrium is safe for anyone to touch, why did Harding go out of her way to make sure she's the one who picks it up? Did I miss anything about the dagger? Was it known to be dangerous or possibly dangerous and she just wanted to protect the rest of the team?
2) Since I don't actually know: is the lyrium dagger made with processed lyrium or unprocessed? Or does no one knows and maybe that's why Harding grabbed it, since dwarves are more resistant to unprocessed lyrium?
3) Am I simply missing something about the intel the team had about the dagger?

Again, please: no spoilers, not even a hint. Just wanna know some facts that one would know at that point of the game. I really don't get why Harding acted that way and just want to know why. Seemed very stupid, but I'd rather give the writers some benefit of the doubt (I know, I know...). If it's just "writers were being stupid", so be it. I just want to be sure, because maybe it's my lack of knowledge of the universe or maybe I missed something.

1. Wrong_Carlo
2. Honkweebnig/Heroin Liberator
3. Rougay, probably
4. Yosharian
5. sebas
6. Ryzer
7. Assymptotics
8. duskville
9. Tytus
10. frajaq
11. wolfbane
12. darkpedriot
13. grim1234

 

[Nostaljaded]

Custom Protagonist vs Fixed Protagonist in a new RPG IP

Given the same standard of writing, do you prefer a Custom Protagonist (requiring more complexity) OR a Fixed Protagonist in an entirely new IP/setting?

With the same writer(s), are you more willing to open your wallet, just simply due to having a Custom Protagonist feature (& its character creator functionality)?

Putting it in another way, should developers put more resources for a Custom Protagonist (at the expanse of other features) in the hope of attracting a larger audience?

 

[Wasteland]

Putting it in another way, should developers put more resources for a Custom Protagonist (at the expanse of other features) in the hope of attracting a larger audience?

I propose a compromise: custom protagonist, but the devs save resources by not allowing a female option.

More seriously, it doesn't matter to me. The question comes down to implementation. Custom is great, but fixed protags can be done well too. KCD wouldn't have quite the same charm without Henry, for example, but KCD also allowed the player a fair amount of freedom with respect to Henry's actions and disposition--or at least an illusion of freedom.

Based on the lolcow material in this thread, by contrast, DATV offers "custom" protagonists with absolutely zero choice past the creation menu. Every dialogue resolves into three or four different ways to say "yes," or "i'm gay." Was the investment Bioware made in allowing players to customize the PC's background/appearance, or to choose male/female voicing, really worthwhile? No, not even if we disregard all of the other countless problems with the game's mechanics and writing.

 

[Konjad]

Support me

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/we-need-more-buttons.109842/page-241#post-9211245

 

[Lyric Suite]

Wow this is next level mental illness

More like someone desperately trying to defend his job. But this is no surprise, considering that YouTubers can be independent and provide video to back up their opinions, unlike the journalists, who may not even have played a game they supposedly reviewed.

Caste system in Orzammar never really made sense though. How is it even feasible for dwarves to have a large underclass who serve no purpose except drain their resources? They cannot fight in the army as cannon fodder, they can't do any jobs which leads them towards crime. Why even keep them in the city then, what's their point?

The whole point of the caste system is to make a case for a nonsensical system that ought to be dismantled on the grounds of logic. It is not supposed to make sense or be sustainable. In case of the latter, you could make an argument that revolutions happened exactly because people finally got enough from that particular system and wanted a change.

Caste system lasted for thousand of years in India. Seems pretty sustainable to me.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

The first one seems written by Tolkien.

 

[Xorazm]

Imortant message here,please listen

Trump won, I don't have to listen to anything.

Oh yeah, as if Harris won you'd be like "Huh, yeah I guess I better check out what Vice has to say."

 

[Xorazm]

Is there still a market for cringeshots of the writing?

And yes, when Modern Audience character says "doing it," it does in fact mean exactly what Modern Audience would say.

Fantasy world? In-universe consistent writing? Never heard of them. Someone call HR.

 

[Konjad]

Took me quite a few seconds to understand what it's about

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Is there still a market for cringeshots of the writing?

And yes, when Modern Audience character says "doing it," it does in fact mean exactly what Modern Audience would say.

Fantasy world? In-universe consistent writing? Never heard of them. Someone call HR.

We already have a WotR cringe thread, someone could make one for this game as well.

 

[Yosharian]

Is there still a market for cringeshots of the writing?

And yes, when Modern Audience character says "doing it," it does in fact mean exactly what Modern Audience would say.

Fantasy world? In-universe consistent writing? Never heard of them. Someone call HR.

We already have a WotR cringe thread, someone could make one for this game as well.

Is there still a market for cringeshots of the writing?

And yes, when Modern Audience character says "doing it," it does in fact mean exactly what Modern Audience would say.

Fantasy world? In-universe consistent writing? Never heard of them. Someone call HR.

We already have a WotR cringe thread, someone could make one for this game as well.

How would that thread differ from this one

 

[Martyr]

grim1234 stop being gay.

 

[Tyranicon]

How would that thread differ from this one

Easy.

Owlcat = 500+ words. You're so bored after reading it you almost forgot where the cringe was.

Nu-BioWare = 5 words or less. Makes you wonder if the industry is better off with AI writers.

 

[Pathfinder: WoTR]

I'm asking what made her act this way

Hormones probably, women am I right

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Disclaimer: I know very little about DA, just the basics, such as what in general is the Blight, Fade, etc.

So, there's a scene in Veilgaurd where Rook and company find Solas' lyrium dagger. They look at it for a few seconds and Harding decides to push Rook (who is also a dwarf btw) away and go and grab it herself.
I'm not asking about what happened next, I'm asking what made her act this way. Again: no spoilers please.

1) Since the wiki tells me that processed lyrium is safe for anyone to touch, why did Harding go out of her way to make sure she's the one who picks it up? Did I miss anything about the dagger? Was it known to be dangerous or possibly dangerous and she just wanted to protect the rest of the team?
2) Since I don't actually know: is the lyrium dagger made with processed lyrium or unprocessed? Or does no one knows and maybe that's why Harding grabbed it, since dwarves are more resistant to unprocessed lyrium?
3) Am I simply missing something about the intel the team had about the dagger?

Again, please: no spoilers, not even a hint. Just wanna know some facts that one would know at that point of the game. I really don't get why Harding acted that way and just want to know why. Seemed very stupid, but I'd rather give the writers some benefit of the doubt (I know, I know...). If it's just "writers were being stupid", so be it. I just want to be sure, because maybe it's my lack of knowledge of the universe or maybe I missed something.

Someone add this asshole to the list

I know you guys at these forums are extremely assholish in general, but can you at least explain what I did wrong?

You bought or pirated a shit game. Dont be a enabler of decline.

Now, time to barve.

I would recommend using your brain instead of being a mindless drone, though. Play the game first before you judge it - that's the sensible thing to do. But I know you mindless drones refuse to use your brains, so I don't expect you to wisen up. Anyway, offtopic, so fuck off from the thread.

Sensible thing is to check out the reviews before buying anything these days, and ALL of them agree that the game is preachy garbage, so no money from me. Fact is, if you REALLY wanted advice on this abortion of a game you would have went to reddit or the official steam forums where they "celebrate" the game, not here. The post itself was bait, and i answered in kind.
Then you resorted to insults (mindless drone lel) which was unnecessary.

 

[Falksi]

No idea what the source is like, but it makes cheery reading regardless...

 

[dbx]

Disclaimer: I know very little about DA, just the basics, such as what in general is the Blight, Fade, etc.

So, there's a scene in Veilgaurd where Rook and company find Solas' lyrium dagger. They look at it for a few seconds and Harding decides to push Rook (who is also a dwarf btw) away and go and grab it herself.
I'm not asking about what happened next, I'm asking what made her act this way. Again: no spoilers please.

1) Since the wiki tells me that processed lyrium is safe for anyone to touch, why did Harding go out of her way to make sure she's the one who picks it up? Did I miss anything about the dagger? Was it known to be dangerous or possibly dangerous and she just wanted to protect the rest of the team?
2) Since I don't actually know: is the lyrium dagger made with processed lyrium or unprocessed? Or does no one knows and maybe that's why Harding grabbed it, since dwarves are more resistant to unprocessed lyrium?
3) Am I simply missing something about the intel the team had about the dagger?

Again, please: no spoilers, not even a hint. Just wanna know some facts that one would know at that point of the game. I really don't get why Harding acted that way and just want to know why. Seemed very stupid, but I'd rather give the writers some benefit of the doubt (I know, I know...). If it's just "writers were being stupid", so be it. I just want to be sure, because maybe it's my lack of knowledge of the universe or maybe I missed something.

I won't even pirate that sht, but don't expect nu-bioware to be consistent with the past or even inside the same game.

 

[n0wh3r3]

Interesting that one, it's actually one of the better critiques around from a gameplay analysis point of view, and especially interesting in coming from a trannie's perspective. Seems like a smart, uh, person [Jew? going by the name, maybe] who understands that this sort of crap is not going to make people more friendly to people like him, but quite the opposite.

Looks like this "game" is in freefall in every way now.

I just started watching the video and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started. Persona 4 got a far more superior and mature writing. And it is a game about teenagers.

 

[Falksi]

Disclaimer: I know very little about DA, just the basics, such as what in general is the Blight, Fade, etc.

So, there's a scene in Veilgaurd where Rook and company find Solas' lyrium dagger. They look at it for a few seconds and Harding decides to push Rook (who is also a dwarf btw) away and go and grab it herself.
I'm not asking about what happened next, I'm asking what made her act this way. Again: no spoilers please.

1) Since the wiki tells me that processed lyrium is safe for anyone to touch, why did Harding go out of her way to make sure she's the one who picks it up? Did I miss anything about the dagger? Was it known to be dangerous or possibly dangerous and she just wanted to protect the rest of the team?
2) Since I don't actually know: is the lyrium dagger made with processed lyrium or unprocessed? Or does no one knows and maybe that's why Harding grabbed it, since dwarves are more resistant to unprocessed lyrium?
3) Am I simply missing something about the intel the team had about the dagger?

Again, please: no spoilers, not even a hint. Just wanna know some facts that one would know at that point of the game. I really don't get why Harding acted that way and just want to know why. Seemed very stupid, but I'd rather give the writers some benefit of the doubt (I know, I know...). If it's just "writers were being stupid", so be it. I just want to be sure, because maybe it's my lack of knowledge of the universe or maybe I missed something.

 

[kapisi]

and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started

Let it flow

 

[Necrensha]

Brother, this is a female-brain game.
(Protagonist) is there merely to observe the BADDASS woman do all the actual important stuff like grabbing the macguffin. This should be obvious.

 

[n0wh3r3]

and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when the dialogues started

Let it flow

It's offensively bad. Who is this intended for? 6 y/o braindead children?

 

[Brancaleone]

you guys at these forums are extremely assholish in general