Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Fargus]

What was that "Rape her" line in professional translation? "Get accused of rape and get cancelled by her"?

 

[Fedora Master]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Game devs are often oversocialized nerds and thus automatically left-of-center. It is no surprise to see them add progressive ideas to their games. I'm sure if you look at the first Ultimas you'll find something that is considered woke today. The problem now is that developers stopped adding things because that's their lived experience and instead started lecturing the audience and creating settings that they see as their ideal society. Also a general drop in IQ and creativity, because the people that work for Bioware aren't just normal white dudes, they're dysgenic freaks.

 

[Camel]

They always seem to forget that Zevran and Leliana were the most mentally fucked up companions who are only just escaping an entire life of hedonism and depravity. It's not surprising they're the only 2 not-straight characters.

That's not *woke* enough in modern day))

Leliana is a nuanced and flawed character, which makes her memorable. Her sexual orientation doesn't define her unlike many new characters in later games. She's feminine and popular among male gamers, being the most popular romance by far in DA:O. Middle-stage BioWare was carried by its larger-than-life characters until they completely lost their mojo.

 

[Raghar]

What was that "Rape her" line in professional translation? "Get accused of rape and get cancelled by her"?

I think because not everyone from original team was doing commercial translation, and not everyone from original team was paid. They changed some words there and there to ensure that commercial translation looks different.
Like they turned "rape her" into "rape". But Rance things to himself and he thinks rape her not rape something.

Of course I had problem to force windows 10 to create virtual locale to allow me both playing this and games like Elden Ring. So I didn't play it for more than two? decades, thus I don't recall more details.

 

[Raghar]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Game devs are often oversocialized nerds and thus automatically left-of-center. It is no surprise to see them add progressive ideas to their games. I'm sure if you look at the first Ultimas you'll find something that is considered woke today. The problem now is that developers stopped adding things because that's their lived experience and instead started lecturing the audience and creating settings that they see as their ideal society. Also a general drop in IQ and creativity, because the people that work for Bioware aren't just normal white dudes, they're dysgenic freaks.

I thought developers in 90 were people without social skills that were either bookworms or outcasts from society, and that's why theirs games felt like story that's happening in real world that is not Earth.

Also we had a loot of scantily clad women because developers thought they look awesome.

 

[Konjad]

 

[Fedora Master]

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[jaekl]

BioWare once again at its best? You mean... like... a return to form perhaps???

 

[Semiurge]

Alistair is really fucking dumb for NOT taking the throne and marrying Anora

But that's exactly what he did in my playthrough. He and Anora even showed up in Inquisition, briefly.

Did you fail a persuasion check, lol?

Getting Alistair to marry Anora (or yourself) is mutually exclusive with keeping Loghain alive.

Veliguard's dialogue seems like the culmination of millennials theater kids culture.

Or the product of those who treat Star Trek: The Next Generation and whatever Joss Whedon's made as their nerd bibles.

The favourite ending of David Gaider.

Didn't he write Morrigan? So how does your pointy ear dying fit in with that DLC where your Warden is supposed to find her?

These should all be blacklisted. It doesn't matter if they wrote the initial praise for money, maintaining good industry relations or because they thought that Veilguard should succeed because "the message" speaks to them.

"Woke" is just the natural progression of all retarded leftist values pushed in the old games

Yes and no. If you'll forgive the expression.

Current_gen wokinism is a direct continuation of previous_gen SJWism, with one important distinction: it has now taken over the entire story/characters/art direction/quality/pacing/marketing/EVERYTHING.

autistic screeching about things I've already screeched about

Previous_gen sjw games were stories about various things, and they had sjw shit in it in various places. Often, you were given the choice to not go along with the sjw shit and pick the mean narrow-minded bigoted option, and the game would honor your choice, after chiding you slightly.

Current_gen woke trash is just a skinner-box for the exact same woke power fantasy: muh ebulz oppressive huwite man who must be destroyed by rainbow coalition of stronk womynz, niggers, other darkskins, and gays/trannies. There are no longer any options to not do the woke thing, and the story/setting/characters are hollow cardboard cutouts that exist only to be hosts for the shitlib brainworms.

It's kind of like watching a PSA or a commercial: the rudimentary story where some girl opens a cereal box and a horde of pixies and leprechauns fly out to sing songs of frosty sugar treats is not the point at all, the point is THE MESSAGE. In this case, "buy product".

The story of an upbeat young man who celebrates his newest promotion at the office by having a few drinks with his buddies, then getting into his car and promptly crashing into a delivery truck isn't the point at all, the point is THE MESSAGE. In this case, "don't drink and drive", which is a good message.

The story of world-ending ancient elven gods being awakened from their slumber to merge the physical and spirit realms and destroy civilization as we know it isn't the point at all (any longer). The point is THE MESSAGE, in this case, RESPECT TRANS PEOPLE'S PRONOUNS and STOP BEING RACIST MISOGYNIST. Which is a vile necro.

When you have activists writing shit instead of actual writers who do that for a living, you get the activists going "How can I best wrap this shit I write around my own voice and sage life lessons?" They've been waiting for an opportunity to finally include their personal struggle into a story that millions (lol, not a chance) will see and experience, and considering how involved in the story they are because of this intimate tie-in, they're reluctant to allow any kind of freedom to dissent via gamer agency. They got their chance to tell the world how they think things should be, and that's the end of it (not a fucking chance). They want to be on top of the foodchain, and they want to be something they're not while the rest of the world has to agree to that. This gender shit is about identities, non-quantifiable emotions, and the whole idea is that a good little ally has to take their word as absolute truth and elevate them high on the victimhood totem. To indulge their fantasies while ignoring visible reality. Just because they/them, as the oppressed, say so. They/them can go fuck themselves with dragon clit dildos before the world will accept their word as objective truth before science.

If they acted like adult humans instead of narcissistic children with identity issues and if they didn't try to grab more power than they deserve via a loathsome marxist ideology and its long reach through institutions, people wouldn't hate this trans-shit so much.

Has it been revealed yet what these allegations are about?

They always seem to forget that Zevran and Leliana were the most mentally fucked up companions who are only just escaping an entire life of hedonism and depravity. It's not surprising they're the only 2 not-straight characters.

That's not *woke* enough in modern day))

Leliana is a nuanced and flawed character, which makes her memorable. Her sexual orientation doesn't define her unlike many new characters in later games. She's feminine and popular among male gamers, being the most popular romance by far in DA:O. Middle-stage BioWare was carried by its larger-than-life characters until they completely lost their mojo.

Real chads will romance Morrigan first, then break up with her and romance Leliana. It gives a new flavor to the dark ritual.

 

[Necrensha]

Since you guys love collecting Veilguard videos, another one dropped:

 

[Poseidon00]

, the Grey Warden storyline as king and queen of Ferelden later on was... abandoned and dead. Which sucks.

There were many possible endings and different scenarios available. They had to settle for just one to be canon.
Awakening should've been the last game...

If they were going to settle for "one to be canon" they shouldn't have made it so your choices carried over so greatly in the first place.

I understand Dragon Age 5 not reacting to whether or not your Gray Warden choose the werewolves or the elves, but it's not exactly impossible to make 3 or 4 plausible scenarios based on major choices. Is Anora/Alistair King, did the Gray Warden die or journey on, and maybe one or two other big ones to acknowledge.

 

[Camel]

Didn't he write Morrigan? So how does your pointy ear dying fit in with that DLC where your Warden is supposed to find her?

It's mutually exclusive alright. I always thought BioWare should've had C&C in their games but there should've been an official canon.

Real chads will romance Morrigan first, then break up with her and romance Leliana. It gives a new flavor to the dark ritual.

You can romance them both and their catfights over you are hilarious until they make you to choose like Triss and Shani in the Witcher.

If they were going to settle for "one to be canon" they shouldn't have made it so your choices carried over so greatly in the first place.

I understand Dragon Age 5 not reacting to whether or not your Gray Warden choose the werewolves or the elves, but it's not exactly impossible to make 3 or 4 plausible scenarios based on major choices. Is Anora/Alistair King, did the Gray Warden die or journey on, and maybe one or two other big ones to acknowledge.

Not getting mentioned is a blessing in Veilguard. The Warden, Leliana, Alistair weren't butchered like Morrigan and Isabela.

 

[Volourn]

You can marry Anora if Alistair kills her father.

 

[Fedora Master]

The entire spiel of "Your choices matter" was dropped harder after DAO than they did for Mass Effect.
Plus I predicted they wouldn't even have the courtesy of adding token one-liners about your decisions in the other games.

 

[Fenix]

Video games used to be progressive not woke up until 2012-2016 like most western entertainment(literature, movies, comics). The western devs provided entertainment first, the (subtle) message second. Now they preach at their audience and shove woke agenda down the gamers throats. DA:O and ME2 aren't woke and BioWare used to write "compelling stories and engaging characters".

They always seem to forget that Zevran and Leliana were the most mentally fucked up companions who are only just escaping an entire life of hedonism and depravity. It's not surprising they're the only 2 not-straight characters.

That's not *woke* enough in modern day))

Leliana is a nuanced and flawed character, which makes her memorable. Her sexual orientation doesn't define her unlike many new characters in later games. She's feminine and popular among male gamers, being the most popular romance by far in DA:O. Middle-stage BioWare was carried by its larger-than-life characters until they completely lost their mojo.

Of cource they weren't "woke" back then, as this word appeared later.
They were PROGRESSIVE back then, I remember how people argued about that, me including.
For me it was what today called as "woke".

And that Leliana this or that doesn't matter - first it's always crossbreed characters, who keep part of previous time when they wrote characters like this, and part of "this year shtick", THEN it Failguard all the way down the hill.

So yeah, DAO felt for me same way as Failguard - the only difference that DAO was the starting point of the way, which I recognized, and Failguards of today seems to be near the finish line.

 

[Padzi]

I think it's almost dead.

 

[Fenix]

Now you know a real number of troons in the world, who is interested/capable in gaming, that is.

 

[Semiurge]

You can romance them both and their catfights over you are hilarious until they make you to choose like Triss and Shani in the Witcher.

Yeah I knew about the triangle potential, but my last playthrough with a male Warden was with an unpatched game and I read that Leliana's romance can get buggy so I didn't want to take that chance. Morrigan will ask you to break up with her anyway when she gets in too deep emotionally.

 

[Hammer Of The Heretics]

It is natural for the values and lived experience of creators to bleed through into their creations. That's the nature of creative expression. What crosses the line for me is when a product violates its own internal logic to inject a point motivated solely by current real world political concerns. That's propaganda, not entertainment, and it should be flatly rejected. This game is way, way over that line.

 

[Camel]

Of cource they weren't "woke" back then, as this word appeared later.
They were PROGRESSIVE back then, I remember how people argued about that, me including.
For me it was what today called as "woke".

And that Leliana this or that doesn't matter - first it's always crossbreed characters, who keep part of previous time when they wrote characters like this, and part of "this year shtick", THEN it Failguard all the way down the hill.

So yeah, DAO felt for me same way as Failguard - the only difference that DAO was the starting point of the way, which I recognized, and Failguards of today seems to be near the finish line.

What exactly is woke in DA:O?

 

[Butter]

Now you know a real number of troons in the world, who is interested/capable in gaming, that is.

Explains why the number is in freefall.

 

[scytheavatar]

Now you know a real number of troons in the world, who is interested/capable in gaming, that is.

Explains why the number is in freefall.

It's a fucking single player game, why wouldn't it be on freefall? The only ones that can maintain their player numbers 1 year latter are GOTY winners like Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring.

 

[Camel]

The left-wing clowns: DA:O is woke because of homosexual romances.
The right-wing clowns: DA:O is woke because of homosexual romances.

 

[Butter]

The left-wing clowns: DA:O is woke because of homosexual romances.
The right-wing clowns: DA:O is woke because of homosexual romances.

 

[normie]

The left-wing clowns: DA:O is woke because of homosexual romances.
The right-wing clowns: DA:O is woke because of homosexual romances.

yes, because it is