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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

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Why would you play the Dragon Age series on PC anyway? The first two games don't have controller support except on console.
Even braindead Bioware drones say that DAOs console port was bad due to the controller UI.
 

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I'm gonna farm so many shit ratings my account will be considered a holy river in the Hindu religion. But I stand by it. Man was not meant to game on a typewriter.
There are some games that just play better with a console controller, I use one all the time for them. But no idea about the Dragon Age series, I just could not get into it.
 

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Could someone that knows how to utilize the Steam Charts do a summary of all 4 dragon age games? All time peak, now playing etc between all 4.

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As already said these figures are not illustrative of anything. I bought physical copies of Origins and for my sins DA2. People won't play these games on steam and Inquisition is free on EA play, as are the other previous games. I have EA play but never played Inquisition even though it is free, I just got it to play Madden. I did download and play ME3 for 30 minutes a year ago which is also free with EA play.

Failguard is the only game that had a full Steam launch and Inquisition probably has more current players than it as 1k people are playing on Steam and it's free to play on EA play.

Bioware is a joke. I mean I would rather shitpost on here about their tragic latest offering than play any of their latest games for free. If EA play had Failguard for free I wouldn't play it.

I actually started playing Origins again a few months back until it kept crashing... I would rather play a 15 year old game of Biowares I already played through twice and try to hack my way around crashes than play their latest AAA offering even if it were free.
 
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Could someone that knows how to utilize the Steam Charts do a summary of all 4 dragon age games? All time peak, now playing etc between all 4.

kNtDMVL.png
As already said these figures are not illustrative of anything. I bought physical copies of Origins and for my sins DA2. People won't play these games on steam and Inquisition is free on EA play, as are the other previous games. I have EA play but never played Inquisition even though it is free, I just got it to play Madden. I did download and play ME3 for 30 minutes a year ago which is also free with EA play.

Failguard is the only game that had a full Steam launch and Inquisition probably has more current players than it as 1k people are playing on Steam and it's free to play on EA play.

Bioware is a joke. I mean I would rather shitpost on here about their tragic latest offering than play any of their latest games for free. If EA play had Failguard for free I wouldn't play it.

I actually started playing Origins again a few months back until it kept crashing... I would rather play a 15 year old game of Biowares I already played through twice and try to hack my way around crashes than play their latest AAA offering even if it were free.
Crashes on DAO are solved by applying the 4gb patch. The software doesn't know what to do if your computer has more than 4gb of ram.
 
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Could someone that knows how to utilize the Steam Charts do a summary of all 4 dragon age games? All time peak, now playing etc between all 4.

kNtDMVL.png
As already said these figures are not illustrative of anything. I bought physical copies of Origins and for my sins DA2. People won't play these games on steam and Inquisition is free on EA play, as are the other previous games. I have EA play but never played Inquisition even though it is free, I just got it to play Madden. I did download and play ME3 for 30 minutes a year ago which is also free with EA play.

Failguard is the only game that had a full Steam launch and Inquisition probably has more current players than it as 1k people are playing on Steam and it's free to play on EA play.

Bioware is a joke. I mean I would rather shitpost on here about their tragic latest offering than play any of their latest games for free. If EA play had Failguard for free I wouldn't play it.

I actually started playing Origins again a few months back until it kept crashing... I would rather play a 15 year old game of Biowares I already played through twice and try to hack my way around crashes than play their latest AAA offering even if it were free.
Crashes on DAO are solved by applying the 4gb patch. The software doesn't know what to do if your computer has more than 4gb of ram.
cool thanks. I wondered why the game was crashing.

First time I played Origin it always crashed in Denherim, I thought that was because I downloaded a pirate version (demo :lol:) Anyway I liked it so bought the physical copy and it worked fine. But when I played it recently on EA play was getting the same Denherim crashes again with a new computer.
 
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Could someone that knows how to utilize the Steam Charts do a summary of all 4 dragon age games? All time peak, now playing etc between all 4.

kNtDMVL.png
As already said these figures are not illustrative of anything. I bought physical copies of Origins and for my sins DA2. People won't play these games on steam and Inquisition is free on EA play, as are the other previous games. I have EA play but never played Inquisition even though it is free, I just got it to play Madden. I did download and play ME3 for 30 minutes a year ago which is also free with EA play.

Failguard is the only game that had a full Steam launch and Inquisition probably has more current players than it as 1k people are playing on Steam and it's free to play on EA play.

Bioware is a joke. I mean I would rather shitpost on here about their tragic latest offering than play any of their latest games for free. If EA play had Failguard for free I wouldn't play it.

I actually started playing Origins again a few months back until it kept crashing... I would rather play a 15 year old game of Biowares I already played through twice and try to hack my way around crashes than play their latest AAA offering even if it were free.
Crashes on DAO are solved by applying the 4gb patch. The software doesn't know what to do if your computer has more than 4gb of ram.
cool thanks. I wondered why the game was crashing.

First time I played Origin it always crashed in Denherim, I thought that was because I downloaded a pirate version (demo :lol:) Anyway I liked it so bought the physical copy and it worked fine. But when I played it recently on EA play was getting the same Denherim crashes again with a new computer.
Yea Denerim is an area that's very prone to crashing. The 4gb patch reduces cratches there, and in the entire game, to an effective 0%. I played DAO like this like a year or two ago, was having the same issues.
The 4gb patch is universal, so it's a good idea to apply it to games that are of a certain age anyways.
 

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Veilsisters list corrections:

1. Wrong_Carlo
2. Heroin Liberator / Honkweebnig
3. Rougay (claims to have no interest in ever playing this)
4. Yosharian
5. sebas
6. Ryzer Raghar
7. Asymptotics
8. duskvile
9. Tytus
10. frajaq
11. wolfbane
12. darkpatriot
13. grim1234
14. Baron Dupek
15. TheKing01
16. 1451
17. Supermedo
18. taxalot / taxnomore
19. Moonrise
20. Orud
21. Drakortha
22. DemonKing
23. Lord_Potato
Lol, never played Veilguard, shitskinny. You're just butthurt because I rightfully called you a console pleb here.
 
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I'm gonna farm so many shit ratings my account will be considered a holy river in the Hindu religion. But I stand by it. Man was not meant to game on a typewriter.
There are some games that just play better with a console controller, I use one all the time for them. But no idea about the Dragon Age series, I just could not get into it.

Dragon Age Origin is fucking terrible on a controller. It didn’t need to be, (Knights of the Old Republic worked just fine on a controller) but BioWare redid the combat to function more like an action game and what they turned out ended up playing like a terrible action game. But it sold better than the PC version, which is probably why Dragon Age 2 went the way it did with its combat system. Console Origin feels like an even worse version of Dragon Age 2 combat.
 

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I'm gonna farm so many shit ratings my account will be considered a holy river in the Hindu religion. But I stand by it. Man was not meant to game on a typewriter.
There are some games that just play better with a console controller, I use one all the time for them. But no idea about the Dragon Age series, I just could not get into it.

Dragon Age Origin is fucking terrible on a controller. It didn’t need to be, (Knights of the Old Republic worked just fine on a controller) but BioWare redid the combat to function more like an action game and what they turned out ended up playing like a terrible action game. But it sold better than the PC version, which is probably why Dragon Age 2 went the way it did with its combat system. Console Origin feels like an even worse version of Dragon Age 2 combat.
I thought DA2 combat was actually pretty good. it's just a better version of Origins combat.
 
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I'm gonna farm so many shit ratings my account will be considered a holy river in the Hindu religion. But I stand by it. Man was not meant to game on a typewriter.
There are some games that just play better with a console controller, I use one all the time for them. But no idea about the Dragon Age series, I just could not get into it.

Dragon Age Origin is fucking terrible on a controller. It didn’t need to be, (Knights of the Old Republic worked just fine on a controller) but BioWare redid the combat to function more like an action game and what they turned out ended up playing like a terrible action game. But it sold better than the PC version, which is probably why Dragon Age 2 went the way it did with its combat system. Console Origin feels like an even worse version of Dragon Age 2 combat.
I thought DA2 combat was actually pretty good. it's just a better version of Origins combat.
They're on par, really. Both have trash mobs up the ass and you don't really have to think while you fight.
 

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I'm gonna farm so many shit ratings my account will be considered a holy river in the Hindu religion. But I stand by it. Man was not meant to game on a typewriter.
There are some games that just play better with a console controller, I use one all the time for them. But no idea about the Dragon Age series, I just could not get into it.

Dragon Age Origin is fucking terrible on a controller. It didn’t need to be, (Knights of the Old Republic worked just fine on a controller) but BioWare redid the combat to function more like an action game and what they turned out ended up playing like a terrible action game. But it sold better than the PC version, which is probably why Dragon Age 2 went the way it did with its combat system. Console Origin feels like an even worse version of Dragon Age 2 combat.
I thought DA2 combat was actually pretty good. it's just a better version of Origins combat.

There's actually not a hell of a lot wrong with what BioWare did in terms of combat throughout their games. They'd been fishing around for a more action-ey combat style since KOTOR and they'd tried various angles, sometimes failing (NWN/2 control systems) sometimes succeeding (DA2/DAI).

I think we all might wish that more attention had been paid to the top-down combat in terms of usability, but if you played either game (DA2/DAI) on the hardest difficulty you would have to use the top-down perspective maybe once in every four fights or so, which seems like a decent ratio. So essentially, 3rd person action without much pausing for trash mobs, top-down with a few pauses for beard-stroking, for more difficult encounters. What's not to like?

I'll never understand what gripe people have about "trash mob" encounters as such (I mean, as opposed to a complaint that there are too many of them, which may be valid) - I mean, to me, a game is better if it has a rhythm of where you alternate feeling godly with being challenged. Of course the balance has to be right, the thing has to be refined, it's matter of artfulness.

Aaaand another (related) thing. You sometimes hear people pissing and moaning about "MMO style combat" (e.g. it's a frequent complaint that BioWare were trying to implement "MMO style combat" and that's supposed to be somehow a bad thing). There's nothing wrong with bog-standard MMO combat (like WoW or any of the great MMOs), it's refined through being tested by thousands of people.
 

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There is no way you can justify how mages spawning behind you to wipe your party out with a fireball is good combat. DA2 has dogshit combat.
 

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People complaining about controller support for DAO and calling DA2's combat "good".
What the fuck I'm reading here?
 

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The European gaming market didn't have a great year for sales. GamesIndustry's Christopher Dring revealed this tidbit during the latest episode of the GI Microcast show, confirming that sales of new games went down by 29% compared to last year, as registered by GSD data.
2024 just didn't have the same sheer triple-A power when it came to its schedule. Dring admitted as much in the podcast while also singling out two games that underperformed: Star Wars Outlaws and Dragon Age: The Veilguard.
In terms of the traditional big blockbuster Christmas games, you had Call of Duty, which did well, and you had Dragon Age, which did not. That is disappointing, though, that position. That was it. Dragon Age had the market to itself and it couldn't find an audience, and that really is scary as we move into the following year.
Star Wars Outlaws and Dragon Age: The Veilguard ranked #14 and #19, respectively, when it comes to the new games European chart. But switching to the full chart that also includes games released in previous years, they drop to #45 and #68
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Dragon Age had the market to itself and it couldn't find an audience, and that really is scary as we move into the following year.


There's still hope for the future. Hope that cucks like him and degenerates like Bioware decline into obscurity, where they deserve to be.
 

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People complaining about controller support for DAO and calling DA2's combat "good".
What the fuck I'm reading here?
Assisted Living Godzilla played DA:O on a console(Xbawks I assume) and Old Hans is trolling.
There is no way you can justify how mages spawning behind you to wipe your party out with a fireball is good combat. DA2 has dogshit combat.
Teleporting enemies spawning behind your back making careful positioning worthless, fast and mindless combat, no friendly fire except of nightmare difficulty, no companion inventory, nerfing of mages etc etc.
 

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