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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

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Fuck me Taash is so goddamn cute, I knew I was going to love her and so glad I waited to flirt with someone until she joined the party.

And I fully agree that the level design in this game is outstanding, I've turned off all the HUD and UI stuff and it has been absolute joy to explore these various locations. They are absolutely stunning and just designed really well in a way that is not at all annoying or tedious. It really helps that movement and traversal in the game is so incredibly, the way Rook effortlessly glides and climbs things without any needing for input is just really fantastic.

And these levels are really goddamn big still, far larger than anything we've ever seen in Dragon Age or Mass Effect previously prior to DAI and MEA's open world bullshit, but unlike those two games there's so much care and attention to the layout and structure of these levels that it's just vastly more enjoyable to explore, and they're just overall far more beautiful and interesting to look at. Not to mention they don't absolutely kill the pacing of the game.
 

thesecret1

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Bullshit, DA2 already settled their fate.
DA2 and ME3. DA2 was plain bad with the boring, uninspired and dumb plot. ME3 has two good storylines with the botched and nonsensical plot with an added bonus of the faggot romance.
DA2 has a bed rep because it felt cheap with the reused locations, not because of the writing. And ME3 writing was mostly on par with previous BW stuff, except for the retarded ending (and the terrible tex-mex companion). But people don't remember any of this, after 10+ years all that's left is "it's bad".

Inquisition is where this started to break. There were still some great parts (the palace intrigue stood out the most) but most of it was already rotten to the core.
DA2 writing was shit too, and writing in ME2 and 3 was a steep decline from ME1. That it wasn't as shit as Inquisition's doesn't make it good
 

Camel

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DA2 has a bed rep because it felt cheap with the reused locations, not because of the writing. And ME3 writing was mostly on par with previous BW stuff, except for the retarded ending (and the terrible tex-mex companion). But people don't remember any of this, after 10+ years all that's left is "it's bad".

Inquisition is where this started to break. There were still some great parts (the palace intrigue stood out the most) but most of it was already rotten to the core.
Reused locations, consolized and dumbed down combat and I don't remember a good DA2 storyline except a part with Arishok. But it still was dumb with Qunari sitting in an enemy city for years because Isabela stole their Quran. Arishok wanted and tried to raze degenerate Kirkwall to the ground before Qunari were retconned into degenerates themselves. ME 3 writing was pretty bad starting from Earth except Tuchanka and the Geth - Quarian war, the only good parts of the game.
 

jaekl

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I played Inquisition when it came out, it was and still is one of the shittiest games ever created

  • everyone's skin is nauseatingly moist
  • slippery slopes blocking your way constantly
  • Cell phone game-style real time missions
  • mmorpg-style quests
  • Everything is green (instead of purple)
  • Dumbass marvel superhero premise
  • Cringe companions with hours of soap opera dialogue
  • One of your companions is a homo and there's a quest where you're supposed to help him come out to his dad or something and he cries like a bitch.
  • There's a part where everyone starts singing and it's actually more painful than the gay dad quest
  • Even shittier awesome button action combat than dragon age 2, which was already a disgrace
  • FUCKING CRAFTING.

If you think of anything else, plz let me know so i can add it to this comprehensive list
 
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kapisi

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From what I managed to gather so far, the overall story of the dragon age world is as follows:

There is no Veil, Fade is like the sky (?)

Elves are spirits that dwell in the Fade

Titans live in the physical world, dwarves live inside them like a hivemind

Titans and dwarves also dream and manifest in the Fade this way (?)

Elves enter physical world and make bodies of lyrium, which is Titans' blood

Titans don't like it and wage war

Elves are losing and make a weapon to sever Titans from their spirits in the Fade

The severed spirits of the Titans become the Blight. The stone song of the dwarves and grey Wardens calling is the same-ish thing

Top elves are power hungry and become god-like. They proceed to use the Blight for more power

Solas leads rebellion and imprisons them and the Blight in the Black City. He creates the Veil by accident in the process

Edit - it's worth noting that Solas is the guy who created anti-titan weapon and hence the Blight too.

Thousands of years later Tevinter magisters breach into the Black City in the flesh and release a small chunk of the blight that proceeds to grow underground

It's not clear where the humans and qunari came from, but I haven't seen everything. Humans were around when elves were still spirits. Probably more about Titans and dwarves. There's nothing definite about the Maker and Chantry scripture in the game

Post credits imply that Executors, some power from across the ocean, orchestrated the events from Origins onward for at least a thousand+ years . They were mentioned briefly in Da2 and Dai, now they return or some shit.
 
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HumanMech

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Lyric Suite

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Is Origins the only Dragon Age game worth playing?

I didn't even play that one lmao.

I finished KOTOR but that was the end of Bioware for me. I mean NWN wasn't as good as BG2 but at least it mostly operated in a similar manner.

Everything in KOTOR was streamlined to hell.

I can't imagine Dragon Age Origins bieng any better.

BTW, when did the gay shit start? Was it actually KOTOR? David Gaydar should get more flak for getting this ball rolling.
 

Mark Richard

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Bullshit, DA2 already settled their fate.
DA2 and ME3. DA2 was plain bad with the boring, uninspired and dumb plot. ME3 has two good storylines with the botched and nonsensical plot with an added bonus of the faggot romance.
DA2 has a bed rep because it felt cheap with the reused locations, not because of the writing. And ME3 writing was mostly on par with previous BW stuff, except for the retarded ending (and the terrible tex-mex companion). But people don't remember any of this, after 10+ years all that's left is "it's bad".

Inquisition is where this started to break. There were still some great parts (the palace intrigue stood out the most) but most of it was already rotten to the core.
DA2's problem was the design. It's when Bioware cannibalized their own products by taking two distinct series and combining them under the corporate belief that science can produce a money-printing formula for the perfect game. DA2 became more like Mass Effect, and Andromeda like Inquisition, until everything became an indistinguishable sludge with no identity.

You're right though - in DA2 the writing itself still fit Dragon Age. There were a few lapses, sure, but it's hard to maintain a high standard across tens of thousands of lines of dialogue. People are willing to brush past that kind of stuff if they liked the overall experience, but a bad game puts even the most minor of faults under the microscope. That's the only explanation I have for why anyone would look back on DA2 and mention bad writing. It's not even on a top 10 list of what is wrong with that game.
 

Camel

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Is Origins the only Dragon Age game worth playing?

I didn't even play that one lmao.

I finished KOTOR but that was the end of Bioware for me. I mean NWN wasn't as good as BG2 but at least it mostly operated in a similar manner.

Everything in KOTOR was streamlined to hell.

I can't imagine Dragon Age Origins bieng any better.

BTW, when did the gay shit start? Was it actually KOTOR? David Gaydar should get more flak for getting this ball rolling.
DA:I won a faggot award from GLAAD for in-game fags and troons. The first faggot-only romance was in ME3.
 

Terenty

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I tired playing Dragon Age Origins for the first time a couple years ago and just couldn't get past the first few hours.

Came off as a painfully generic fantasy with mediocre gameplay
 

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