Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[damager]

Those are not pronouns though, it‘s supposed to replace „er“ (he) and „sie“ (she).

You are right though, German has the gender neutral "es", but it‘s the same case as with the English „it“. The freaks view it as dehumanizing so they make up this bullcrap instead.

It is used for animals. So very fitting afterall. Don't wanna conform to a gender? This is the logical name for it in our language. We should stick with it

 

[Lagole Gon]

Yeah 88k on saturday night means Bioware is shitting bricks in their room waiting for papa EA to come and shut them down.

I think EA will give Bioware one more chance to make another Mass Effect game, since apparently the failure of Andromeda was blamed on the Montreal studio.

So we'll have to wait a few years, but one of these days the sun will be shining brightly... birds will sing... and Bioware will be no more.

No way mediocre sales will cause EA to shut them them, especially before Mass Effect 4.
They might do some "tough restructurization decisions" in a couple of months. It is a really bloated studio.

You both are out of your mind if you think EA won't shut them down.
Bioware atm is around 1500 employees. 1500 across 6 studios. All of them placed in expensive areas.

So you are looking at 1500 x ~$100k per employee and that's conservative estimation from company pov. (so extra employer const included like office rent, gov taxes etc.) that's $150mil a year burn rate. Just to be on black let alone green for 2.5 year dev time full scale, they have to sell around 10 million copies at $40 profit per copy sold. 10 mil to be just on black. 20 mil to double investment costs.

Moreover Bioware didn't have ANY successful game in 10 years. They last one was inquisition 10 years ago which made a lot of money but not we are safe for 20 years kind of money.

Because of few games released on steam we also know how rate of active users playing game on launch to overall sales ratio is more or less. Cyberpunk 2077 sold 6 milion copies from preorders and few from launch totalling 10 milion copies in first days on all platforms. around 1mil players played on launch day. Which gives you 1:10 ratio. So if we extrapolate DAV numbers you have something like 800k sales in launch window total across all platforms.

Moreover we know that recent Refantasia from ATLUS which is waaaaaaay smaller budget game had 100k peak and less marketed and ATLUS announced they sold 1 mil copies which is again bang on 1:10 ratio.

DAV IS a failure for EA. For it to not be a failure DAV would need to get around minimum 700k concurrent which wouldn't get them in black on launch but legs would push them to green.

Now EA has a choice to make. Gamble on same team doing Mass Effect 4 which delivered failure and possibly waste upwards of half a bilion, fire half of company and cut staff so that only pros will remain and downscale projects or shut them down outright.

Nice math you got there nerd, but I have my GUT FEELINGS.

 

[Andnjord]

I'm guessing there IS a neutrum in French - an equivalent of the English "it" - but you're only using it for inanimate things and maybe children?

Nope, the vagina is masculine, the dick (bite) is feminine, the table is feminine, the stool is masculine…. Same with Italian by the way, they are fully gendered languages.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah, I think a "severe restructuring" will take place in coming months, with anything other than the next Mass Effect being a huge hit seeing Bioware finished.

Which means they will have to face the brutal reality that forced woke games, which value the message above the adventure, just don't sell well.

And to counter-balance the damage Vileguard has done, I think EA will have to detach the next ME game from almost any wokeness at all to reach the sales it needs. There's just too many people out there now after this who don't want to be tainted by them.

How is that going to work when all the developers are woke, though? They are suddenly going to write stuff that appeals to trad BW fans? How?

The shareholders won't be, and thus those developers won't likely be around in their roles for that long.

Yeah but it's the entire company at this point

 

[damager]

Nope, the vagina is masculine, the dick (bite) is feminine

This is the most french thing I ever heard... it sounds like some coquettish french king made that up.

 

[Yosharian]

Some real comments I have seen being deployed:

The puzzles are easy at the start but they get more complex further into the game

You can turn off the story pop-ups so it's not even that big of a deal, some people like them, I didn't even notice them!

The game is too hard, enemies are really aggressive

The last puzzle I did, my companions didn't even say anything!

I just reached the 30h mark and the writing suddenly got much better!

The game is this way because EA forced them to do it like that

Yeah the developers feel the need to explain some of the complex ideas I guess

I think you have a setting switched on that I don't, because I don't see any of these things!

Dragon Age as a series has always had training wheels so I'm OK with it

Sure, the dialogue and storytelling aren't as good as other Dragon Age games, but that doesn't make it bad

I'm several hours in and haven't heard them recap the story once

You haven't even beaten the game yet so you have no idea what you're talking about

You're just judging the game for what it isn't, rather than what it is!

 

[Andnjord]

Nope, the vagina is masculine, the dick (bite) is feminine

This is the most french thing I ever heard...

The thing is, what decides the “gender” of a word is purely a matter of the spelling of said word, generally speaking if there’s a vowel at the end it’s “feminine”, otherwise it’s “masculine” (and like any language there’s a bunch of exceptions of course). It’s so disconnected to the meaning of the words that nobody sane will assign any meaning to it, save for dangerhair intellectuals who try to apply the cultural conflicts of another language to one whose mechanics don’t actually support said conflict.

 

[damager]

Here's a normie video that got recommended to me, has exactly the same criticisms that everyone else is saying



Obviously she's just a nazi incel

Comments are mostly apologists

lol even Cougars for Kamala are shitting on this game

 

[damager]

@AeschylusShepherd​

52 minutes ago
Wait until you get to 25-30 hours in it gets really dark and ugly. You're in the beginner area.

You need at least 25-30 hours to enjoy a game is new cope even for codex standards!

 

[Andnjord]

Fun fact on the inappropriateness of applying English genders to Romance languages: in Italian the word for table can be “il tavolo” (masculine) for the physical object or “la tavola” (feminine) for the concept as in the periodic table. Sort of like the difference between home and house.

 

[Andnjord]

You need at least 25-30 hours to enjoy a game is new cope even for codex standards!

Standards are slipping, we used to play games seven times.

 

[Storyfag]

Lol at the manlet redesign of the darkspawn.

And i’m supposed to believe THESE fucks razed denerim?

this scene has all the dramatic weight of a level 12 D&D party being ambushed by a pack of level 1 goblins

How is it that the troons can get through the ribcage with big holes but not the zombies when clearly they could fit through? It just doesn't make sense.

In BioWare's* own words: "do not seek reason, you cannot comprehend!"



*BW Austin's, technically.

 

[A-Minish]

If Veilguard is indeed not profitable, we will only know in the next months. First indicators are going to be the lack of updates and DLCs.

ME4 or not, I can not see those in charge of Veilguard not having their ranks trimmed in the next year or so.

Small updates

About this French langual delirium. Do you even know what is even funnier ?

This way of speaking/writting is supposed to be inclusive and not "not exclusionary". There are 3 things to consider.
1. It is not standard metropolitan french.
2. Those with problems like dyslexia or retards. A minority.
3. France is, well, now a bit cramed up with numerous foreigners who do not always speak perfectly french. Aother, but bigger, minority.
And thus, the language in question, already hermetic as it is, becomes very exclusionary to MOST of the population.

 

[Taxnomore]

We already know that there is not going to be any DLC.
It's not necessarily an indicator of anything. BG3 didn't have any DLC either.

 

[The Wall]

If Veilguard is indeed not profitable, we will only know in the next months. First indicators are going to be the lack of updates and DLCs.

Already OFFICIALLY confirmed: no DLCs or expansion planned. Moving str8 to Mass Effect 4. This is first time in history of Bioware they have done that, as far as I know

 

[A-Minish]

We already know that there is not going to be any DLC.
It's not necessarily an indicator of anything. BG3 didn't have any DLC either.

True enough. But I would say Larian is an odd ball in this matter. DOS1&2 were like this too.

As exemple I was thinking about Andromeda and its axed Quarian Arc DLC and all past BioWere game since DAO had a good number of DLCs.

EA could chose to relagate DLC production to a third party studio too.

 

[Konjad]

 

[GloomFrost]

WOW! 2024 EA AAA game not getting DLC says it all. But troons need to keep coping, its the "most successful bioware Steam launch" after all.

 

[The Wall]

We already know that there is not going to be any DLC.
It's not necessarily an indicator of anything. BG3 didn't have any DLC either.

BG3 was an exception in that regard, not a rule. Bioware loves and has amways done DLCs. Except for 3 games: Andromeda, Anthem and Jade Empire. Andromeda flopped, Anthem flopped and Jade Empire flopped. And now they announced no DLCs for Veilguard

Mmmmmmaybe it is a sign. Maybe having less players then Factorio or Manor Lords, small indie developers or Kingdom Come, 5 year old AA, maybe all of that would in eyes of financially sane leadership be a sign for guillotine

 

[The Wall]

Josh Sawyer approves this. Keep in mind that fucks like Avellone, Tim Cain, Josh Sawyer, Brian Fargo etc ALL either passively or actively aprove of all this shitshow and insanity. Keep buying their games, keep being surprised that they are castrated in every way, both creatively and gameplay wise. Because castrated men make them

Don't talk about culture, don't bring culture wars pweeeeease. I haven't enjoyed good game from California or Canada in decade+. Yes, all teams are made of women, trannies and whipped soy white men. NOOOOOOOO, ZEROOOO CAUSE & EFFECT!!!

 

[Zanzoken]

Because castrated men make them

literally

 

[damager]

We already know that there is not going to be any DLC.
It's not necessarily an indicator of anything. BG3 didn't have any DLC either.

It is an indicator. Larian did not chose to produce them for Hasbro. If this game was successful EA would make them do some. It's company policy to milk everything successful into the ground.

 

[kapisi]

We've arrived at the final stage of cope. The "I like it, don't care" stage.

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On a main subreddit that was running hardcore defense for the game.

Only a matter of time before low sodium dragon age.

You're watching a fandom twist in on itself. And honestly, it's kind of sad. They just didn't want the good times to end.

BioWare was one of the giants of the genre, like it or not.

At this far removed corner from BioWare's best times, it's charitable to pour one out for the homies. The BioWere we knew is long gone, and has been for some time. Remember it as it was, not as it is.

Spoiler

Fucking up Mass Effect

Reddit doesn't even have any discussions about the ending yet. Oh, and they don't know that Varric has been dead the whole time too, with no burial and grieving scenes at all.

 

[damager]

Josh Sawyer approves this. Keep in mind that fucks like Avellone, Tim Cain, Josh Sawyer, Brian Fargo etc ALL either passively or actively aprove of all this shitshow and insanity. Keep buying their games, keep being surprised that they are castrated in every way, both creatively and gameplay wise. Because castrated men make them

Don't talk about culture, don't bring culture wars pweeeeease. I haven't enjoyed good game from California or Canada in decade+. Yes, all teams are made of women, trannies and whipped soy white men. NOOOOOOOO, ZEROOOO CAUSE & EFFECT!!!

Keep Avellone out of this dude. What did he do wrong

 

[The Wall]

Last words from IGN tranny's review will be prophetic: "If we never get another Dragon Age, at least it got to go out on a high note"