Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Zanzoken]

I have never played Anthem or Andromeda. Are they worth having a look?

Lol not to derail but I never played Andromeda and that Krogan having the voice of a flaming California faggot is just too funny

 

[damager]

Why do some people need others to approve the thing they're consuming in order to enjoy that thing?

Because they are insecure.

Well they are insecure for a reason if they like this shit. And deep down they know

 

[damager]

Still you. I don't even know what you are talking about or why that matters

It matters because it was Baldur's Gate. Who the fuck cares about Dragon Age? You do, apparently. Whatever the latest bandwagon is, right?

I was genuinely outraged by BG3. I look at this Dragon Age and I feel nothing. What is there to even discuss? BG3 was SHIT. Let's talk about that.

Nothing you can do about it: I tried BG3. The combat was fun. The writing was shit. The perfomance was horrid. I uninstalled. So what?

This happens all the time with sequels and it was expected. Why should I make a big scene about it? I lived through this several times over the course of my life and by now it's nothing new. When they announced BG3 I thought there was a 95% chance it would be shit.

 

[damager]

DAV is just fun to bitch about, because it has no redeeming qualities and it's fun to spite nu-Bioware fans, who were always massive faggots for at least 20 years now.

 

[Perkel]

Yeah 88k on saturday night means Bioware is shitting bricks in their room waiting for papa EA to come and shut them down.

 

[A-Minish]

Anyone speaks French here? Looks like its also butchered in that language

They did it, those fucking retards did it, LMAO. This is Le Point Inclusif, to make sure everyone in represented in a sentence regardless of the contexte.

Lae is a fusion of Le(masculin) and La(feminin) to reach a kind of neutrality. A kind of retarded "the".

Their only purpose is to represent everyone in a sentence by default. If they did this across ALL the game, then this is a complete disaster.

This kind of speech is only used by retarded bourgoies bohèmes, terminaly online gender tribalist, wokes and for virtue signaling. I am not the biggest defender of French language but it just butchers it for no real practicality other than boosting their egos.

 

[Harthwain]

Well they are insecure for a reason if they like this shit. And deep down they know

They are insecure because they feel the need to force the acceptance from people to their fanfiction. Funny thing is, it is difficult to make people accept dumb shit, and 99% of the time it is used for thoughtless propaganda, with no respect for the story/plot/characters, etc.

I did see a few examples where someone being gay was an important plot point in the story in a comic or a book, but this worked because it was very subtle (the character being gay was revealed only when it became important for the story, for example) and made sense from the narrative point of view. But when all you have are talentless hacks with an agenda and nothing more, all you get will be shit.

 

[Taxnomore]

OH MY GOD. I was wondering if they would get "there" in the french version but thought this was so fringe they wouldn't dare touch those fucking twitter neutral pronouns. They did it. OH WHAT THE FUCK.

("Iel" is the equivalent to "Xer" pronoun bullshit, a cross between "il" and "elle" , as there are no neutral pronouns in our language. Lae sounds like a cross between Le and La and I wasn't even aware of it before this screenshot)

 

[kigmathelm]

I like that we are all having fun here joking how this awesome game is actually bad.

But we do need to talk about the obvious - negative steam and metacritic reviews are clearly written by MAGA types and Putin trolls.

In fact, its election interference. And if Trump wins again he will first put all of us Veilguard fans into gas chambers.

So yeah.

 

[Andnjord]

Anyone speaks French here? Looks like its also butchered in that language

You think you have it bad in English with they/them but this is on another level.

 

[Ryzer]

OH MY GOD. I was wondering if they would get "there" in the french version but thought this was so fringe they wouldn't dare touch those fucking twitter neutral pronouns. They did it. OH WHAT THE FUCK.

("Iel" is the equivalent to "Xer" pronoun bullshit, a cross between "il" and "elle" , as there are no neutral pronouns in our language. Lae sounds like a cross between Le and La and I wasn't even aware of it before this screenshot)

Honestly I didn't even understand what they are saying. In French it's not only wrong or badly mispelled, it's just not French at all. The French translation is not even French, it's just gibberish.

 

[Zanzoken]

Yeah 88k on saturday night means Bioware is shitting bricks in their room waiting for papa EA to come and shut them down.

I think EA will give Bioware one more chance to make another Mass Effect game, since apparently the failure of Andromeda was blamed on the Montreal studio.

So we'll have to wait a few years, but one of these days the sun will be shining brightly... birds will sing... and Bioware will be no more.

 

[Lagole Gon]

No way mediocre sales will cause EA to shut them them, especially before Mass Effect 4.
They might do some "tough restructurization decisions" in a couple of months. It is a really bloated studio.

 

[cvv]

there are no neutral pronouns in our language

I'm guessing there IS a neutrum in French - an equivalent of the English "it" - but you're only using it for inanimate things and maybe children?

It's like this in most Indo-European languages. Neutrum would be a completely no brainer solution for they/thems, if it wasn't considered "rude".

 

[cvv]

No way mediocre sales will cause EA to shut them them, especially before Mass Effect 4

 

[Taxnomore]

there are no neutral pronouns in our language

I'm guessing there IS a neutrum in French - an equivalent of the English "it" - but you're only using it for inanimate things and maybe children?

It's like this in most Indo-European languages. Neutrum would be a completely no brainer solution for they/thems, if it wasn't considered "rude".

No. Inanimate things have a male or female gender in our language (very binary). You also use IL or elle ( he or she) for inanimate things

 

[Falksi]

Yeah, I think a "severe restructuring" will take place in coming months, with anything other than the next Mass Effect being a huge hit seeing Bioware finished.

Which means they will have to face the brutal reality that forced woke games, which value the message above the adventure, just don't sell well.

And to counter-balance the damage Vileguard has done, I think EA will have to detach the next ME game from almost any wokeness at all to reach the sales it needs. There's just too many people out there now after this who don't want to be tainted by them.

 

[Yosharian]

Here's a normie video that got recommended to me, has exactly the same criticisms that everyone else is saying



Obviously she's just a nazi incel

Comments are mostly apologists

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

OH MY GOD. I was wondering if they would get "there" in the french version but thought this was so fringe they wouldn't dare touch those fucking twitter neutral pronouns. They did it. OH WHAT THE FUCK.

("Iel" is the equivalent to "Xer" pronoun bullshit, a cross between "il" and "elle" , as there are no neutral pronouns in our language. Lae sounds like a cross between Le and La and I wasn't even aware of it before this screenshot)

They did the same in the German version using "hen", which is a made-up gender neutral pronoun. For most part, normies here have been succesfully brainwashed to accept gender neutral language as the new normal. But even by those standards, this "hen" crap is extremist stuff from the farthest fringes of gender ideology, absolutely nobody except a few deranged gender studies professors is talking like that.

 

[timewind]

Reviews are more entertaining than the game itself

 

[thesecret1]

They did the same in the German version using "hen"

I thought German has "der, die, das". How did that turn into "hen"?

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Those are not pronouns though, it‘s supposed to replace „er“ (he) and „sie“ (she).

You are right though, German has the gender neutral "es", but it‘s the same case as with the English „it“. The freaks view it as dehumanizing so they make up this bullcrap instead.

 

[Perkel]

Yeah 88k on saturday night means Bioware is shitting bricks in their room waiting for papa EA to come and shut them down.

I think EA will give Bioware one more chance to make another Mass Effect game, since apparently the failure of Andromeda was blamed on the Montreal studio.

So we'll have to wait a few years, but one of these days the sun will be shining brightly... birds will sing... and Bioware will be no more.

No way mediocre sales will cause EA to shut them them, especially before Mass Effect 4.
They might do some "tough restructurization decisions" in a couple of months. It is a really bloated studio.

You both are out of your mind if you think EA won't shut them down.
Bioware atm is around 1500 employees. 1500 across 6 studios. All of them placed in expensive areas.

So you are looking at 1500 x ~$100k per employee and that's conservative estimation from company pov. (so extra employer const included like office rent, gov taxes etc.) that's $150mil a year burn rate. Just to be on black let alone green for 2.5 year dev time full scale, they have to sell around 10 million copies at $40 profit per copy sold. 10 mil to be just on black. 20 mil to double investment costs.

Moreover Bioware didn't have ANY successful game in 10 years. They last one was inquisition 10 years ago which made a lot of money but not we are safe for 20 years kind of money.

Because of few games released on steam we also know how rate of active users playing game on launch to overall sales ratio is more or less. Cyberpunk 2077 sold 6 milion copies from preorders and few from launch totalling 10 milion copies in first days on all platforms. around 1mil players played on launch day. Which gives you 1:10 ratio. So if we extrapolate DAV numbers you have something like 800k sales in launch window total across all platforms.

Moreover we know that recent Refantasia from ATLUS which is waaaaaaay smaller budget game had 100k peak and less marketed and ATLUS announced they sold 1 mil copies which is again bang on 1:10 ratio.

DAV IS a failure for EA. For it to not be a failure DAV would need to get around minimum 700k concurrent which wouldn't get them in black on launch but legs would push them to green.

Now EA has a choice to make. Gamble on same team doing Mass Effect 4 which delivered failure and possibly waste upwards of half a bilion, fire half of company and cut staff so that only pros will remain and downscale projects or shut them down outright.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah, I think a "severe restructuring" will take place in coming months, with anything other than the next Mass Effect being a huge hit seeing Bioware finished.

Which means they will have to face the brutal reality that forced woke games, which value the message above the adventure, just don't sell well.

And to counter-balance the damage Vileguard has done, I think EA will have to detach the next ME game from almost any wokeness at all to reach the sales it needs. There's just too many people out there now after this who don't want to be tainted by them.

How is that going to work when all the developers are woke, though? They are suddenly going to write stuff that appeals to trad BW fans? How?

 

[Falksi]

Yeah, I think a "severe restructuring" will take place in coming months, with anything other than the next Mass Effect being a huge hit seeing Bioware finished.

Which means they will have to face the brutal reality that forced woke games, which value the message above the adventure, just don't sell well.

And to counter-balance the damage Vileguard has done, I think EA will have to detach the next ME game from almost any wokeness at all to reach the sales it needs. There's just too many people out there now after this who don't want to be tainted by them.

How is that going to work when all the developers are woke, though? They are suddenly going to write stuff that appeals to trad BW fans? How?

The shareholders won't be, and thus those developers won't likely be around in their roles for that long.