Dragon's Dogma II - "They’re masterworks, all – you can’t go wrong"

[Modron]

Ranger 4 life.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Played a Ranger only once. It was pretty fun, but I prefer the MA. There really aren't any other games that have a class that's similar to it whereas I can play as a sneaky archer in almost every ARPG.

 

[Alphard]

Played a Ranger only once. It was pretty fun, but I prefer the MA. There really aren't any other games that have a class that's similar to it whereas I can play as a sneaky archer in almost every ARPG.

i disagree while there are many games where you can play the legolas of turn, very few ( actually no one of those i have played) catch the feeling of being an Archer whose success is dependent of his skill and aim. the free aim ( not targeted) plus weak spots, give you that immense satisfaction when you snipe a cyclope eye 50 meters away. you feel you EARNED the damage you did.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Played a Ranger only once. It was pretty fun, but I prefer the MA. There really aren't any other games that have a class that's similar to it whereas I can play as a sneaky archer in almost every ARPG.

i disagree while there are many games where you can play the legolas of turn, very few ( actually no one of those i have played) catch the feeling of being an Archer whose success is dependent of his skill and aim. the free aim ( not targeted) plus weak spots, give you that immense satisfaction when you snipe a cyclope eye 50 meters away. you feel you EARNED the damage you did.

I'm not arguing over if Ranger is better done than in other games. Just that I can get something similar in other games, but there's not a single game that has anything remotely close to the MA.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Completely unrelated to the DD2 reveal, I'm feeling an itch to replay as a Mystic Knight again. My last 4 replays have all been with a Magick Archer so I'm ready for something different. Unfortunately I'm gonna have to do the Sorcerer rodeo all over again. I hope for the sequel they don't tie stat growths with your vocation.

My first and only Mystic Knight run was pretty clean tbh. I played as standart fighter for 10 lvls and MK all the way then. Shield riposte skill need not much to be OP

 

[Carceri]

Speaking of Mystic Knight, I hope they will keep the perfect blocking mechanic in DD2.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Completely unrelated to the DD2 reveal, I'm feeling an itch to replay as a Mystic Knight again. My last 4 replays have all been with a Magick Archer so I'm ready for something different. Unfortunately I'm gonna have to do the Sorcerer rodeo all over again. I hope for the sequel they don't tie stat growths with your vocation.

My first and only Mystic Knight run was pretty clean tbh. I played as standart fighter for 10 lvls and MK all the way then. Shield riposte skill need not much to be OP

The first and only time I played an MK I went Fighter as well. It was fine but don't most of their skills scale with Magic more than Strength? Even skills like Stone Forest scale with your character's Magic stat and the physical portion comes from your weapon damage iirc.

Edit: wtf, who moved these posts in the DD2 thread? We were discussing the first game.

 

[Cyberarmy]

The first and only time I played an MK I went Fighter as well. It was fine but don't most of their skills scale with Magic more than Strength? Even skills like Stone Forest scale with your character's Magic stat and the physical portion comes from your weapon damage iirc.

You don't really need any magic for MK to be effective TBH. This guy explains it better than me.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

 

[d1r]

About fucking time.

 

[Carceri]

Completely unrelated to the DD2 reveal, I'm feeling an itch to replay as a Mystic Knight again. My last 4 replays have all been with a Magick Archer so I'm ready for something different. Unfortunately I'm gonna have to do the Sorcerer rodeo all over again. I hope for the sequel they don't tie stat growths with your vocation.

My first and only Mystic Knight run was pretty clean tbh. I played as standart fighter for 10 lvls and MK all the way then. Shield riposte skill need not much to be OP

The first and only time I played an MK I went Fighter as well. It was fine but don't most of their skills scale with Magic more than Strength? Even skills like Stone Forest scale with your character's Magic stat and the physical portion comes from your weapon damage iirc.

Edit: wtf, who moved these posts in the DD2 thread? We were discussing the first game.

This is the build I'm using on my 'definitive' save file and it's probably the best MK build:

1-10 Mage
10-97 Assassin
97-100 Sorcerer
100 - 200 Sorcerer

606/605 AT/MAT

HP- 3570
Stam - ~4100

Of course this is min-maxed to hell and it is not required, you could just be playing MK from 10 to 200, and with the right augments and weapon lv.3 you will melt everything in BBI anyway. What I don't like about lvling pure MK though, is that awful ~3k stamina at 200. That's kinda annoying for hard mode, especially since I don't really like opening the inventory during combat, or using consumables in general. The same goes for pure Sorcerer build.

 

[Modron]

1-10 Strider
11-200 Ranger.

 

[Alphard]

Played a Ranger only once. It was pretty fun, but I prefer the MA. There really aren't any other games that have a class that's similar to it whereas I can play as a sneaky archer in almost every ARPG.

i disagree while there are many games where you can play the legolas of turn, very few ( actually no one of those i have played) catch the feeling of being an Archer whose success is dependent of his skill and aim. the free aim ( not targeted) plus weak spots, give you that immense satisfaction when you snipe a cyclope eye 50 meters away. you feel you EARNED the damage you did.

I'm not arguing over if Ranger is better done than in other games. Just that I can get something similar in other games, but there's not a single game that has anything remotely close to the MA.

my point was that you can't really play a """true""" Ranger ( with the right feel ) in other games. in those it's like playing an archer shotting wet noodles or a generic mage that use arrows instead of spells

 

[Matador]

Completely unrelated to the DD2 reveal, I'm feeling an itch to replay as a Mystic Knight again. My last 4 replays have all been with a Magick Archer so I'm ready for something different. Unfortunately I'm gonna have to do the Sorcerer rodeo all over again. I hope for the sequel they don't tie stat growths with your vocation.

Recently made a mostly Mystic Knight walkthrough, and it´s the most fun class. And it´s hard because all the classes are great.

 

[Lizard]

Only way I don't pick warrior(or whatever they replace warrior with) again in the sequel is if his skill slots are still gimped.

 

[Hobo Elf]

You don't really need any magic for MK to be effective TBH. This guy explains it better than me.

I'm the person who "played" MK wrong according to him (though I never claimed it was weak or unfun). I ignored the shield parry skills entirely, but this time I'll make an effort to use them. The parry window seems to be pretty large so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to use. Still think I might go Mage > Sorc route just because I like to have the comfort augs to shorten cast times and increase buff durations.

This is the build I'm using on my 'definitive' save file and it's probably the best MK build:

1-10 Mage
10-97 Assassin
97-100 Sorcerer
100 - 200 Sorcerer

606/605 AT/MAT

HP- 3570
Stam - ~4100

Of course this is min-maxed to hell and it is not required, you could just be playing MK from 10 to 200, and with the right augments and weapon lv.3 you will melt everything in BBI anyway. What I don't like about lvling pure MK though, is that awful ~3k stamina at 200. That's kinda annoying for hard mode, especially since I don't really like opening the inventory during combat, or using consumables in general. The same goes for pure Sorcerer build.

Probably too much min/maxing for my tastes. Don't think I ever got higher than level 80. The stamina shortage is definitely an annoyance, but I'll chug them for the bigger bosses.

my point was that you can't really play a """true""" Ranger ( with the right feel ) in other games. in those it's like playing an archer shotting wet noodles or a generic mage that use arrows instead of spells

That's because DD has the best classes, class abilities and combat out of all ARPGs, baby.

 

[BrotherFrank]

Played dragon dogma for the first time last week and been nolife-ing it hard, currently at the end doing reruns of bitterblack island to farm good gear.

Very fun game, can understand what the hype is about now.
Really hope you get more buttons to assign skills to, that would be my main complaint: only 3 slots per arm so once you take your bread and butter skills there usually isn’t much room to take anything else.

 

[Black]

 

[dehimos]

 

[Zombra]

RE Engine is good because it means the game will likely be quite moddable.

Already planning to mod perfection?

 

[Delterius]

always felt that building sucks if you're a new player. that you're better off just playing what you want to play as through the entire game.

 

[Dhaze]

You don't really need any magic for MK to be effective TBH. This guy explains it better than me.

I'm the person who "played" MK wrong according to him (though I never claimed it was weak or unfun). I ignored the shield parry skills entirely, but this time I'll make an effort to use them. The parry window seems to be pretty large so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to use.

Rummaging through my accounts, I unearthed the very first recording I ever took of a game; and it's perfectly à propos.

 

[flyingjohn]

I am conflicted.
On one hand i am getting a sequel to a game i liked.On the other,i don't get to see mediocrepoet's breakdown over dogma 2 news being a McDonald's new menu or some other stupid thing.

 

[Alphard]

always felt that building sucks if you're a new player. that you're better off just playing what you want to play as through the entire game.

also fer returning player like me, who is now doing a second playthrough.i 'll play a MK this time but can't be bothered to play assa or strider for stamina. i just want to play my MK and try sorcerer a bit. while i think this system It's a bit uncomfortable , i think it makessense and add immersion, so i hope it stays in DD2. What they should REALLY rework , as i stated multiple times, is the damage formula.

 

[jungl]

waste of time character building in a game where the enemy ai is worse then beat em up games from the 90s. You might as well forget about the rpg elements.