Drova: Forsaken Kin - 2D action RPG inspired by Gothic series

[toro]

Die Entwickler sagten in ihrem Stream das sie prinzipiell ein Drova 2 entwickeln wollen würden sofern Drova sich gut genug verkauft das eine Finanzierung einer Fortsetzung realisierbar ist. Da es sich nur um ein 6 köpfiges Indie Studio ohne großes Vermögen in der Hinterhand handelt kann das wohl ein wenig dauern.

google translate:

The developers said in their stream that they would want to develop a Drova 2 in principle, as long as Drova sells well enough that financing a sequel is feasible. Since it's only a 6-person indie studio without a lot of money up its sleeve, it can probably take a while.

 

[thesecret1]

How do you kill the black Bird like creature that shoots 3 projectiles? Or am I just not supposed to kill it at lvl 8 with Remnant level weapons?!
It basically 3 shots my character.
I even tried to use my Magic Missile scrolls on it but even 200 damage missiles only do little damage to it..

you mean harpies? They're only tough on low levels since they take a million hits to kill, but you can also just spam cluster bombs at them (consumables). Alternatively, just progress through the game until you get some better weapons, and you'll kill them ez. If you're asking for tactics, the easiest way to fuck them is to go melee, as they'll usually start charging you instead of shooting shit, and the charge is super telegraphed and easy to dodge. You do need to run away when they decide to shoot again though.

 

[ArchAngel]

How do you kill the black Bird like creature that shoots 3 projectiles? Or am I just not supposed to kill it at lvl 8 with Remnant level weapons?!
It basically 3 shots my character.
I even tried to use my Magic Missile scrolls on it but even 200 damage missiles only do little damage to it..

you mean harpies? They're only tough on low levels since they take a million hits to kill, but you can also just spam cluster bombs at them (consumables). Alternatively, just progress through the game until you get some better weapons, and you'll kill them ez. If you're asking for tactics, the easiest way to fuck them is to go melee, as they'll usually start charging you instead of shooting shit, and the charge is super telegraphed and easy to dodge. You do need to run away when they decide to shoot again though.

I guess they could be called Harpies, I have not seen anyone give them a name yet. Are later weapons that much better that I can kill them in few hits instead of 20+ like it is now?

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

How do you kill the black Bird like creature that shoots 3 projectiles? Or am I just not supposed to kill it at lvl 8 with Remnant level weapons?!
It basically 3 shots my character.
I even tried to use my Magic Missile scrolls on it but even 200 damage missiles only do little damage to it..

you mean harpies? They're only tough on low levels since they take a million hits to kill, but you can also just spam cluster bombs at them (consumables). Alternatively, just progress through the game until you get some better weapons, and you'll kill them ez. If you're asking for tactics, the easiest way to fuck them is to go melee, as they'll usually start charging you instead of shooting shit, and the charge is super telegraphed and easy to dodge. You do need to run away when they decide to shoot again though.

I guess they could be called Harpies, I have not seen anyone give them a name yet. Are later weapons that much better that I can kill them in few hits instead of 20+ like it is now?

Have you never played Gothic?

 

[toro]

 

[thesecret1]

I guess they could be called Harpies, I have not seen anyone give them a name yet. Are later weapons that much better that I can kill them in few hits instead of 20+ like it is now?

Yes. Once you get some good weapons, you'll be taking 3 of them on at once and not even break a sweat.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

I read the title as Drova: Foreskin. That is probably the most interesting thing about this though.

 

[ArchAngel]

How do you kill the black Bird like creature that shoots 3 projectiles? Or am I just not supposed to kill it at lvl 8 with Remnant level weapons?!
It basically 3 shots my character.
I even tried to use my Magic Missile scrolls on it but even 200 damage missiles only do little damage to it..

you mean harpies? They're only tough on low levels since they take a million hits to kill, but you can also just spam cluster bombs at them (consumables). Alternatively, just progress through the game until you get some better weapons, and you'll kill them ez. If you're asking for tactics, the easiest way to fuck them is to go melee, as they'll usually start charging you instead of shooting shit, and the charge is super telegraphed and easy to dodge. You do need to run away when they decide to shoot again though.

I guess they could be called Harpies, I have not seen anyone give them a name yet. Are later weapons that much better that I can kill them in few hits instead of 20+ like it is now?

Have you never played Gothic?

I tried when it originally released, all I remember is that it had super strange control scheme and I hated it. But I hated all FP or over the shoulder games. Unless game was isometric I considered it a game for subhumans.

 

[HoboForEternity]

I thought i really liked the true /good ending. You need to do a really difficult dungeons and they tracks how many "boss" monsters you defeated and some of your choices from quests. While it never escape the cliche, especially it boils down to "power of friendship and cay" but the execution and process is really well done because it rewards exploration and dilligence. I enjoyed it more than any piranha bytes game's endings.

 

[Nikanuur]

Wind Talisman + Flow Catcher + one Dash + one Dodge = 250% damage of a next basic swing.
Paired with bleeding ...wow, just wow.

 

[Saark]

Picked this up a few days ago and ended up playing it for most of my day and while doing some work that didn't require much of my attention. Finished it with almost all quests done and achieving the good ending. Great game, that really evoked the original Gothic feeling of being a weak little dumbfuck at the start of the game, trying and wasting hours to explore areas I really shouldn't have, and getting away with some loot you are looking forward to use 5-10hours down the line.

A very serviceable story that neither wows you nor disappoints you, and no real negatives either. The old roman civilization gave me some Age of Decadence vibes as well.

If I'd have to criticize one thing about the game, it'd be how weak bows are, especially against multiple enemies, and a particular story development in chapter 3 that I did not like whatsoever. Game would've really benefited from having a third faction there. That being said, while I did put down the game for an evening because I was upset at some railroading in that specific part of the story, they tied it up nicely in the end and that largely made up for it.

Seeing how this was made by a tiny indie studio, this is a great game that deserves to be recommended, if only to get more of these in the future.

 

[ArchAngel]

Ok, I chose to join Nemeton. Neither faction really explains well why should one join them or seems to care that someone wants to join considering this seems to be a world with limited manpower, they treat anyone like expandable manpower like if there are 1000 new people coming there every day.. so I chose the place that has better walls and nicer looking area. And that makes Chapter 2 happen and many quests from Chapter 1 are removed.. nobody mentioned that so here is a warning for new players.
So I got access to Nemeton Heavy armor which is 4x better than what I had so far (46 vs 12 armor....) and in combination with good shield my character is a tank now. Now I can go and fight 3 of those cave creatures that spring from the floor and smash ground to cause rocks to fall on you.. I can beat the Bear one on one without much use of consumables and fight 3 Boars at the same time by basically tanking their hits.
I only lost so far to the worm thing in one of the caves, my hits do like 1% of damage, I do not feel like doing that fight for 30 minutes so I just left.. also I found some kind of forest tree shaman next to one of the Gloving stones (east of the tavern), he kicked my ass a few times I tried to melee him. He seems to do magical damage or something and does a lot of it.

 

[ArchAngel]

So far I would give this game about 8/10 with score only able to go down as I play more as this is no Fallout or Underrail. If this was FP or Souls like camera I would not even bother playing it.

 

[Havoc]

The only problem I have with the game (biggest flaw) is chapter 3. You can voice your disapproval of the plan, even go to some lengths to inform some people but nothing come out of it. I would love to see a Night of the Raven (G2) expansion, that adds a third faction to the game, because if you do not trust your faction, it makes little sense to follow them at that point.

Spoiler

Dead magical piglets make even strongest men cry.

 

[ArchAngel]

The only problem I have with the game (biggest flaw) is chapter 3. You can voice your disapproval of the plan, even go to some lengths to inform some people but nothing come out of it. I would love to see a Night of the Raven (G2) expansion, that adds a third faction to the game, because if you do not trust your faction, it makes little sense to follow them at that point.

Spoiler

Dead magical piglets make even strongest men cry.

I saw a "third" faction yesterday when exploring some huge cavern complex under Remnants and that whole area, some Ruin Explorers or something. Maybe they could have done more with those.

 

[Havoc]

The only problem I have with the game (biggest flaw) is chapter 3. You can voice your disapproval of the plan, even go to some lengths to inform some people but nothing come out of it. I would love to see a Night of the Raven (G2) expansion, that adds a third faction to the game, because if you do not trust your faction, it makes little sense to follow them at that point.

Spoiler

Dead magical piglets make even strongest men cry.

I saw a "third" faction yesterday when exploring some huge cavern complex under Remnants and that whole area, some Ruin Explorers or something. Maybe they could have done more with those.

They serve a purpose and really do not need to be a third faction. You will meet the "third faction" in chapter 2.

 

[jackofshadows]

So I'm playing this and pleasantly surprised so far (4-5hrs in). This pixel art style feels overused by now though but overall it looks fine enough.

I was a bit worried about all devs list he/him at their web page but aside from various female warriors haven't seen anything too immersion breaking. Why Styg alone in a whole world approaches this thing differently in 2024 is beyond me.

 

[Quatlo]

The whole SBI is getting out of hand and every game is apparently wokeslop now. Either I'm blind or there is zero "diversity" in this game, noone uses pronouns or is actually a tranself hidden in gigga nigga body, except "Body Type 1 and 2" so journos would fuck off and not talk about it.

Edit: Now when I think about it, I can bet that most of the traffic generated now by Steam Curators that are "detecting" SBI are industry plants made by the SBI-related shit themselves, and they accuse everything to discredit the whole thing and become immune to criticism.

 

[Havoc]

The whole SBI is getting out of hand and every game is apparently wokeslop now. Either I'm blind or there is zero "diversity" in this game, noone uses pronouns or is actually a tranself hidden in gigga nigga body, except "Body Type 1 and 2" so journos would fuck off and not talk about it.

Edit: Now when I think about it, I can bet that most of the traffic generated now by Steam Curators that are "detecting" SBI are industry plants made by the SBI-related shit themselves, and they accuse everything to discredit the whole thing and become immune to criticism.

It's just gender has almost no meaning in Drova. Which is a shame as I look upon the 'civilization' and think to myself "where are the children?" "where are the families?" "where is the division of work?", it feels like everybody you met showed up in Drova like you - out of place, out of time. Yes, there are two children in the game. Yes, there are romantic plots (one guy tries to get a mandragora for a girl he knew since childhood and proposes to her - Numeton storyline). The only 'woke' thing is that best gladiator is a woman (arguably I would say Bady is the best but hey) and Nemeton is ruled by a woman, but overall, you can switch their sexes, nothing would change.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

best gladiator is a woman

the top 3 best gladiators are women lol, not just the one

Top 3 active gladiators

Bady & Gra both retired and are much better than Ada

 

[ArchAngel]

The whole SBI is getting out of hand and every game is apparently wokeslop now. Either I'm blind or there is zero "diversity" in this game, noone uses pronouns or is actually a tranself hidden in gigga nigga body, except "Body Type 1 and 2" so journos would fuck off and not talk about it.

Edit: Now when I think about it, I can bet that most of the traffic generated now by Steam Curators that are "detecting" SBI are industry plants made by the SBI-related shit themselves, and they accuse everything to discredit the whole thing and become immune to criticism.

It's just gender has almost no meaning in Drova. Which is a shame as I look upon the 'civilization' and think to myself "where are the children?" "where are the families?" "where is the division of work?", it feels like everybody you met showed up in Drova like you - out of place, out of time. Yes, there are two children in the game. Yes, there are romantic plots (one guy tries to get a mandragora for a girl he knew since childhood and proposes to her - Numeton storyline). The only 'woke' thing is that best gladiator is a woman (arguably I would say Bady is the best but hey) and Nemeton is ruled by a woman, but overall, you can switch their sexes, nothing would change.

Nemeton leader was her father and her brother left to form Remnants, so there was no choice but to have her in charge since devs didn't really care for the world to make sense, they just made vanilla Middle Ages society and added a bit of magic and monsters into it

 

[Havoc]

The whole SBI is getting out of hand and every game is apparently wokeslop now. Either I'm blind or there is zero "diversity" in this game, noone uses pronouns or is actually a tranself hidden in gigga nigga body, except "Body Type 1 and 2" so journos would fuck off and not talk about it.

Edit: Now when I think about it, I can bet that most of the traffic generated now by Steam Curators that are "detecting" SBI are industry plants made by the SBI-related shit themselves, and they accuse everything to discredit the whole thing and become immune to criticism.

It's just gender has almost no meaning in Drova. Which is a shame as I look upon the 'civilization' and think to myself "where are the children?" "where are the families?" "where is the division of work?", it feels like everybody you met showed up in Drova like you - out of place, out of time. Yes, there are two children in the game. Yes, there are romantic plots (one guy tries to get a mandragora for a girl he knew since childhood and proposes to her - Numeton storyline). The only 'woke' thing is that best gladiator is a woman (arguably I would say Bady is the best but hey) and Nemeton is ruled by a woman, but overall, you can switch their sexes, nothing would change.

Nemeton leader was her father and her brother left to form Remnants, so there was no choice but to have her in charge since devs didn't really care for the world to make sense, they just made vanilla Middle Ages society and added a bit of magic and monsters into it

Not arguing that. I am just saying that there's barely any family units, no homes that would say 'family with children live here'. The farm at least exists, so there's some evidence of civilization. But what Remants do to get food? Even New Camp in Gothic1 had a rice farm, while being bandits. There's an inn with sheep, so that's good. But still, I get that feeling that it doesn't look like a civilization that would be able to survive generations.

 

[ArchAngel]

The whole SBI is getting out of hand and every game is apparently wokeslop now. Either I'm blind or there is zero "diversity" in this game, noone uses pronouns or is actually a tranself hidden in gigga nigga body, except "Body Type 1 and 2" so journos would fuck off and not talk about it.

Edit: Now when I think about it, I can bet that most of the traffic generated now by Steam Curators that are "detecting" SBI are industry plants made by the SBI-related shit themselves, and they accuse everything to discredit the whole thing and become immune to criticism.

It's just gender has almost no meaning in Drova. Which is a shame as I look upon the 'civilization' and think to myself "where are the children?" "where are the families?" "where is the division of work?", it feels like everybody you met showed up in Drova like you - out of place, out of time. Yes, there are two children in the game. Yes, there are romantic plots (one guy tries to get a mandragora for a girl he knew since childhood and proposes to her - Numeton storyline). The only 'woke' thing is that best gladiator is a woman (arguably I would say Bady is the best but hey) and Nemeton is ruled by a woman, but overall, you can switch their sexes, nothing would change.

Nemeton leader was her father and her brother left to form Remnants, so there was no choice but to have her in charge since devs didn't really care for the world to make sense, they just made vanilla Middle Ages society and added a bit of magic and monsters into it

Not arguing that. I am just saying that there's barely any family units, no homes that would say 'family with children live here'. The farm at least exists, so there's some evidence of civilization. But what Remants do to get food? Even New Camp in Gothic1 had a rice farm, while being bandits. There's an inn with sheep, so that's good. But still, I get that feeling that it doesn't look like a civilization that would be able to survive generations.

I agree, the world is not nearly realistic. I guess they all eat monsters :D

 

[Shaki]

It's just gender has almost no meaning in Drova. Which is a shame as I look upon the 'civilization' and think to myself "where are the children?" "where are the families?" "where is the division of work?", it feels like everybody you met showed up in Drova like you - out of place, out of time.

I mean, the lore is pretty much that majority of people there are in fact "out of place, out of time", just like you, right? Nemeton was founded barely few decades ago, and is already at the verge of collapse, Remnants just got established, there is no civilization surviving generations there. I imagine aside from the leaders, people die regularly and get replaced by the fresh recruits who landed in Drova just like you, that's why the guy at the beginning was there to welcome the newcomers, and he was surprised it's just you and not more people this time. It's not exactly a great environment to make families and children.

The only thing unrealistic enough to fuck with my immersion, was the fact that factions don't seem to be interested at all in convincing newcomers to join them, they act like they're doing you a favour, while in this setting new people should be the most important asset to them. They should fight over new recruits, but instead they don't give a shit who you join.

 

[ArchAngel]

It's just gender has almost no meaning in Drova. Which is a shame as I look upon the 'civilization' and think to myself "where are the children?" "where are the families?" "where is the division of work?", it feels like everybody you met showed up in Drova like you - out of place, out of time.

I mean, the lore is pretty much that majority of people there are in fact "out of place, out of time", just like you, right? Nemeton was founded barely few decades ago, and is already at the verge of collapse, Remnants just got established, there is no civilization surviving generations there. I imagine aside from the leaders, people die regularly and get replaced by the fresh recruits who landed in Drova just like you, that's why the guy at the beginning was there to welcome the newcomers, and he was surprised it's just you and not more people this time. It's not exactly a great environment to make families and children.

The only thing unrealistic enough to fuck with my immersion, was the fact that factions don't seem to be interested at all in convincing newcomers to join them, they act like they're doing you a favour, while in this setting new people should be the most important asset to them. They should fight over new recruits, but instead they don't give a shit who you join.

There are more plot holes. I do not even think they get many new people since new arrivals seem to come with earthquakes and those are not common as nobody much mentions them after start of the game.