Dwarf Fortress

[Raapys]

I never saw much need for more than 80-100 dorfs. Pretty much half of my dwarves spend the majority of their time drinking my booze and not working.

 

[Perkel]

https://mega.co.nz/#!zBREwIoA!yhd7_-n2SGG567uHc6iFnya1ck4To6VELRlAxK97JM0
here is newest (today's) 0.40.17 with phoebius graphic pack and custom font i put into it (as phoebius one sucks).

 

[Raapys]

How's speed in teh new 40.x version? Significantly slower?

 

[Perkel]

yes. So if you have weak CPU start with small world (important), then limit your dwarves to 50-100

 

[Raapys]

Gah, Toady needs to stop fucking around. The lack of multithreading for the world's most complex virtual world simulation is really pissing me off.

 

[Perkel]

starter pack 0.40.16 r1 released:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=7622

for now ignore 17 as it broke smelting. get starterpack instead from above

 

[Konjad]

Complex world simulation where leaves fall realistically from a tree which has every branch and every leaf simulated in real time. Those leaves after falling degrade, just as fruits which can be collected for food though, by a dwarf which has pages long description of his psychology, preferences, whose all needs and wishes are processed by the CPU all the time and whose actions are determined by his character.

Winter comes and when there's a lack of water in the fortress the fucking dwarves don't melt the snow and ice that is all around them and die of dehydration.

 

[upwardlymobile]

I doubt he'll ever manage to multithread it, everything about the game screams out that it's written in horrible spaghetti code

plus the guy just took two years to add not much other than 3d trees

 

[Perkel]

Dwarves aren't elves they rather die of dehydration than to drink melted snow.
Actually melting is in. You can dig up ice blocks and melt them.

 

[jcd]

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[Perkel]

 

[Perkel]

I doubt he'll ever manage to multithread it, everything about the game screams out that it's written in horrible spaghetti code

plus the guy just took two years to add not much other than 3d trees

rewriting game so that world simulation still goes after you create world to certain date is anything but small change. Also few of bigger changes that were not in 40.01 release were also part of 40 like completely rewriting emotion system.

 

[Perkel]

found amazing place. Grassland, white sand dunes, black sand desert, mountains and a small river.

This looks like Stronghold Crusader map.

 

[jcd]

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[Perkel]

I actually hate evil zones. Because frankly they are boring. Even if you choose least wild it will still contain something that will murder you in first year, which means that you need to go underground and in this case evil biome will be basically either safe or unsafe (resurrect).

I have much more fun playing above ground trying to build small connected societies that have several different plan in case of something. Keep nobles out of reach for common folk.

 

[Perkel]

new update will add sterilization of animals and changes to breading (on contact instead of if there is male and femele there will be new animal).

So no longer you need to fear catplosion nor you need to kill pets of your dwarves. On other hand it will allow selective breeding so you will be able to fiddle with genetics more to breed meanest fucking dogs you could think off.

Also dick will be part of body so imagine those goblets engraved with bull dick skin

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

That's good news about the modders being able to use non-tile images. I've used Phoebus's graphics set in the past, and while the background stuff is pretty good, the image tiles for dwarves/goblins/animals are very tiny and oftentimes hard to to grasp. Would love to see larger, more beautiful graphic sprites for those. I am also keeping an eye on Stonesense's development, some of their screenshots look great now, but still a work in progress.

Once Tarn Adams finishes with this release (the bugs, smaller additional stuff), I really hope the next one will be the army arc. What the dwarf fortress mode really needs is more challenge from the goblin invasions and/or other hostile civs. Right now it's too easy to build an impregnable fortress with everything it needs inside, and put it on lockdown. Once the invaders have the AI to dig tunnels, or use siege weapons to get past those defenses, that will really take things to the next level. Hopefully he will also balance stuff like training rooms, and in the same army arc, flesh out adventure mode combat to a larger degree as well.

 

[Borelli]

new update will add sterilization of animals and changes to breading (on contact instead of if there is male and femele there will be new animal).

So no longer you need to fear catplosion nor you need to kill pets of your dwarves. On other hand it will allow selective breeding so you will be able to fiddle with genetics more to breed meanest fucking dogs you could think off.

Also dick will be part of body so imagine those goblets engraved with bull dick skin

So even more micromanagement. I was hoping that animal industry could be automated by giving the herd to a dwarf or something who could be given specific orders on the max herd size (like in Banished). I currently don't use them since because of the aforementioned micromanagement and the fact that they add up to the FPS death.

 

[Perkel]

ok this is big. Like fucking MEGATON big:

"it will be possible to create any custom interfaces - web, for the blind, whatever".

This means that in not so distant feature we will have proper modern UI AND graphic using sprites. If UI is already being totaly exported from game this also means soon graphic will also share same thing. I know there is stonesense but this is mostly visualizer.

Now if somebody would simply build application that would have own UI and graphic then DF would only work as information engine for it. Hell it would be even possible to do 3D graphic...

 

[jcd]

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[Perkel]

Ok people proper stable release since 0.40.13 i coupled it with mod that takes into account size of animal when you skin it. So you will get more leather from bigger animals.

0.40.19 Starter Pack R2

 

[Perkel]

Here is spotify playlist to listen something good playing DF:

https://play.spotify.com/user/dadrew1/playlist/4G9B7ZPGRAzzcwOkKmwmVd

 

[jcd]

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[Cassidy]

There is only one proper soundtrack for Dwarf Fortress, specially for version 0.4 and all future ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIVbpCBo_cU

 

[Konjad]

What, Dragon Age music?

I used to listen to Neutral Milk Hotel while playing this game and now the band and the game are irreversibly connected in my brain.

I used to listen to heavy metal and drink energy drinks when playing DF.

 

[hoverdog]

What, Dragon Age music?

I used to listen to Neutral Milk Hotel while playing this game and now the band and the game are irreversibly connected in my brain.

I loooove you Jeeeesus Chriiiiiiiiiiiiist

 

[Perkel]

What, Dragon Age music?

I used to listen to Neutral Milk Hotel while playing this game and now the band and the game are irreversibly connected in my brain.

not my list. Guitar pieces are great there