From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[ferratilis]

Found this in my recommendations. Some people are really dedicated (or crazy)

 

[Silva]

Who are the angels described in the Winged Scythe and what's the reasoning behind it dropping feathers in it's art? I thought there was no such thing as Angels in the Lands Between?

What came first, the Crucible people, the Nox people or the Dragons? All these seem (almost) extinct civilizations.

What's the difference between Destined and provoked Death ?

During Ranni quest, her followers seem to remotely, spiritually project while their bodies are alive (sleeping?) somewhere else. This suggest the Lands Between is indeed an afterlife of sorts. Right?

 

[Barbarian]

What came first, the Crucible people, the Nox people or the Dragons? All these seem (almost) extinct civilizations.

Crucible came first - "primordial thingamajig from which all life came from" or something like this.

Dragonlords and Nox later. I'm not sure if anyone organized an actual reliable timeline. There are many other past events and factions presented in the game - The fire giant wars against ice dragons, the "lord of rot" being banished and others. Also the godskin and "gloam-eyed queen" before Marika, whoever she is.

 

[Silva]

Damn forgot the Giants.

All this bloat only complicates things. DS was simple with it's age of dragons followed by age of fire. ER has age of crucible, age of dragons, age of giants, age of Nox, age of gloom-eye bitch, age of eardtree, age of shattering. WTF

But I found one thing I REALLY like in the setting: absence of Tolkienesque races like Elves, Dwarves, etc. Finally a fantasy setting without that crap.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Isn't all this complicated even more knowing that the shattering war happened 5000 years before the events of the game? Like the world was in the state we find it in when we start the game for 5k years before us...

 

[Silva]

Is that time length made explicit? Not usual for From to spill it like that.

 

[Child of Malkav]

From George himself

 

[Silva]

From George himself

Interesting. Thanks.

If I had a guess, Martin did the demigods family drama and delivered it to Miyazaki, who tacked on the Lovecraft elements/Outer gods. That explains the schizo feeling the setting gives.

 

[Elttharion]

Good old Georgie is also an absolute retard when it comes to numbers so take anything he says with a grain of salt.

 

[Barbarian]

I like that there is no romance in this. The two "waifus" chosen by reddit barely touch the platonic. One is an incorporeal ghost and the other a 4 armed wooden doll. The closest to "sexual" that happens in the game is Fia hugging you.

Myazaki is a visionnaire against the zeitgeist I say. A stalwart against degeneracy and decay.

No diversity or faggotry either. Everyone is white and straight.

 

[Great Deceiver]

Good old Georgie is also an absolute retard when it comes to numbers so take anything he says with a grain of salt.

 

[Elttharion]

I like that there is no romance in this. The two "waifus" chosen by reddit barely touch the platonic. One is an incorporeal ghost and the other a 4 armed wooden doll. The closest to "sexual" that happens in the game is Fia hugging you.

Myazaki is a visionnaire against the zeitgeist I say. A stalwart against degeneracy and decay.

No diversity or faggotry either. Everyone is white and straight.

Nepheli Loux is black

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

No diversity or faggotry either. Everyone is white and straight.

Better not buy any shrimp boy. You might be in for a shock when you find out Elden Ring has the first nigger in a From game.. (Not counting Patches' voice actor who's a half breed nog).

Ranni marrying you is romance. And I think she can still marry you even if you're a chick so there's your dyke option.

 

[Nathir]

This is why Maliketh is searching and eating deathroot, because he thinks he will make the rune he has hidden whole again in this way and stop the spread.

Isn't that a different beastman? I don't think he disappears when you kill Maliketh and vice versa. Not that that means a lot in Elden ring..

Ranni's ending is mistranslated. It says the complete opposite of what it's supposed to. I don't remember the details now but the Japanese subs are nothing like the voice over.

Demon of Song would have been a great Elden Ring boss. Having to jump over waves as he body slammed and speeding him up makes him so much better. It's a shame From refuse to make interesting bosses any more.

No they are definitely one and the same.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

This is why Maliketh is searching and eating deathroot, because he thinks he will make the rune he has hidden whole again in this way and stop the spread.

Isn't that a different beastman? I don't think he disappears when you kill Maliketh and vice versa. Not that that means a lot in Elden ring..

Ranni's ending is mistranslated. It says the complete opposite of what it's supposed to. I don't remember the details now but the Japanese subs are nothing like the voice over.

Demon of Song would have been a great Elden Ring boss. Having to jump over waves as he body slammed and speeding him up makes him so much better. It's a shame From refuse to make interesting bosses any more.

No they are definitely one and the same.

You're correct. I didn't know clergyman had unique dialog. I never did another stupid fetch quest in a game so large and empty.

It would be interesting to see what modders can do with Elden Ring to fix the open world. A mod like Seeker of the fire would work really well if they had a way to cut out some map segments, dungeons and the legacy stuff. Trim all the filler and see what happens.

 

[Barbarian]

I like that there is no romance in this. The two "waifus" chosen by reddit barely touch the platonic. One is an incorporeal ghost and the other a 4 armed wooden doll. The closest to "sexual" that happens in the game is Fia hugging you.

Myazaki is a visionnaire against the zeitgeist I say. A stalwart against degeneracy and decay.

No diversity or faggotry either. Everyone is white and straight.

Nepheli Loux is black

That's a Conan the Cimmerian tan bro, she ain't black.

 

[Silva]

This is why Maliketh is searching and eating deathroot, because he thinks he will make the rune he has hidden whole again in this way and stop the spread.

Isn't that a different beastman? I don't think he disappears when you kill Maliketh and vice versa. Not that that means a lot in Elden ring..

Ranni's ending is mistranslated. It says the complete opposite of what it's supposed to. I don't remember the details now but the Japanese subs are nothing like the voice over.

Demon of Song would have been a great Elden Ring boss. Having to jump over waves as he body slammed and speeding him up makes him so much better. It's a shame From refuse to make interesting bosses any more.

No they are definitely one and the same.

You're correct. I didn't know clergyman had unique dialog. I never did another stupid fetch quest in a game so large and empty.

It would be interesting to see what modders can do with Elden Ring to fix the open world. A mod like Seeker of the fire would work really well if they had a way to cut out some map segments, dungeons and the legacy stuff. Trim all the filler and see what happens.

Maybe the huge open world explains the random/bloated shit? I've found this Winged Scythe that talks about angels, something I didn't even know existed in this setting. Then I found this Blood Thorn spell saying something about a "blood star". I mean wut, another star? I thought everything blood came from Mohg outer god/ Formless Mother, and now this? It all feels so random, like they were empty of ideas but had to keep filling the world.

 

[Nathir]

Isn't all this complicated even more knowing that the shattering war happened 5000 years before the events of the game? Like the world was in the state we find it in when we start the game for 5k years before us...

How does this complicate anything? For 5k or so years the world was in a cosntant state of war between demigods and their followers, whith everyone endlessly respawning and being unable to die. It's honestly the only way to make the setting have any kind of sense. All the buildings that are left are basically castles/military bases/capital cities and everything else is in ruins. With most people slowly being driven mad because they can't die.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

Isn't all this complicated even more knowing that the shattering war happened 5000 years before the events of the game? Like the world was in the state we find it in when we start the game for 5k years before us...

How does this complicate anything? For 5k or so years the world was in a cosntant state of war between demigods and their followers, whith everyone endlessly respawning and being unable to die. It's honestly the only way to make the setting have any kind of sense. All the buildings that are left are basically castles/military bases/capital cities and everything else is in ruins. With most people slowly being driven mad because they can't die.

The sky city falling to the earth probably didn't help matters.

 

[Skinwalker]

Isn't all this complicated even more knowing that the shattering war happened 5000 years before the events of the game? Like the world was in the state we find it in when we start the game for 5k years before us...

How do you know it's 5000 years?

 

[Nathir]

Who are the angels described in the Winged Scythe and what's the reasoning behind it dropping feathers in it's art? I thought there was no such thing as Angels in the Lands Between?

What came first, the Crucible people, the Nox people or the Dragons? All these seem (almost) extinct civilizations.

What's the difference between Destined and provoked Death ?

During Ranni quest, her followers seem to remotely, spiritually project while their bodies are alive (sleeping?) somewhere else. This suggest the Lands Between is indeed an afterlife of sorts. Right?

1. Does it matter? It's a one of description on this single item. And it even says "according to pagan belief", trying to say it might not be true, or it used to be true a long time ago. Why even think angels? Considering this game is norse/celtic inspired I thought it's talking about some sort of valkyries. But it doesn't matter, you are overthinking 1 random line.

2. Dragons and crucible first, then Nox.

3. What's provoked Death? You mean normal death? I think destined way is just a way to say you will kill someone for good, considering people respawn when they die destined death is a special term just to to say someone will truly stay dead I think.

4. Maybe the lands are an afterlife of sorts, it does feel that way at times. But personally I don't think that's the case. There is a clear divide between the spirit and the physical world in this game and I don't know exactly how it all works.

In the case of Ranni followers they could just be using magic though. As they are all Carians and sitting in their home turf anyway.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

In the case of Ranni followers they could just be using magic though. As they are all Carians and sitting in their home turf anyway.

Or Elden Rings retarded and you can be in multiple places at once. As we see from many characters. You don't need special magic to have a phantom or even a flesh and blood clone of you be some where else.

 

[Nathir]

In the case of Ranni followers they could just be using magic though. As they are all Carians and sitting in their home turf anyway.

Or Elden Rings retarded and you can be in multiple places at once. As we see from many characters. You don't need special magic to have a phantom or even a flesh and blood clone of you be some where else.

Which characters?

 

[Silva]

Yeah it's not just Ranni and co. Other people also seem to spiritually project. See Milicent and Latena, for eg.

In the case of Ranni followers they could just be using magic though. As they are all Carians and sitting in their home turf anyway.

Or Elden Rings retarded and you can be in multiple places at once. As we see from many characters. You don't need special magic to have a phantom or even a flesh and blood clone of you be some where else.

Wait, what do you mean by flesh and bone clones?

 

[Child of Malkav]

Isn't all this complicated even more knowing that the shattering war happened 5000 years before the events of the game? Like the world was in the state we find it in when we start the game for 5k years before us...

How does this complicate anything? For 5k or so years the world was in a cosntant state of war between demigods and their followers, whith everyone endlessly respawning and being unable to die. It's honestly the only way to make the setting have any kind of sense. All the buildings that are left are basically castles/military bases/capital cities and everything else is in ruins. With most people slowly being driven mad because they can't die.

5000 years is...a long time. A lot of stuff happens in the meantime which can and does have repercussions when it comes to understanding the lore. Overlapping battles, victories, defeats, army concentrations, equipment used, battles between demigods, artillery used, date and time of building, strategic defenses and structural collapses archaeologically speaking creates a ton of issues when trying to clarify what the hell happened, in what order, by who, to whom, considering that either a bunch of rubble fell over other debris (important or not) or terrain alterations over time (or suddenly considering the universe an the setting) cover or change up the face of the world, thus hiding or destroying clues or evidence of various events that will no longer be known. All of this muddies the waters tremendously in an already vague enough world.

Isn't all this complicated even more knowing that the shattering war happened 5000 years before the events of the game? Like the world was in the state we find it in when we start the game for 5k years before us...

How do you know it's 5000 years?

Read the link I posted.