Elex 2 VS Elden Ring

[Lyric Suite]

Also, no GOG support as far as I know.

Dude, it's already enough that we are getting it on steam and we don't have to buy a shitty console to play it.

It's a Japanese game. You can't have the same expectations as a western game.

 

[perfectslumbers]

Elden Ring if you're a faggot like me

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

The only MAN in that pic

 

[Silentstorm]

Elden Ring, sorry, but PB is much like From Software, their games have an unique feel and appeal to them but I just prefer From Software more.

Also, thank God for this question being here, one of the few places online where Elex stands a chance and people won't yell about jank so much.

 

[Zlaja]

Easiest way to see this is to look at the recent Demon's Souls remake by a western developer and why the art caused so much butthurt amongst the weeb crowd, because they could innately tell what is "souls" and what isn't

People got butthurt because art in the remake made it look more like Dark Souls 3 in style, then the original Demon's Souls. Pissed me off too.

 

[Jenkem]

well well well...

 

[curds]

the left created something fantastical without much thought to it actually existing, the right has a much heavier focus on creating a believable creature and all that implies

How the fuck is the creature from the remake more believable than the one from the OG? You're just pulling this out of your ass.

especially anything regarding architecture which will tend to be as grounded as you can get.

Architecture was pretty grounded as far as high fantasy goes in Demon's Souls and DS1. Dragon Age is more anime than those games. Less so in DS2 and 3, but still no anime. Elden Ring is the first one which I will agree smells of anime, and it's probably my biggest gripe with the game.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

I wouldve said Elden Ring, but it runs like complete dogshit. Frankly, Japan deserves to be nuked or invaded by China for from's carelessness. Maybe if I was a consoletard I'd feel differently, but I'm not, so I don't.

Literally using the money refunded from Elden Ring to buy ELEX 2 lol.

Tried borderless fullscreen?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

How the fuck is the creature from the remake more believable than the one from the OG? You're just pulling this out of your ass.

seriously?
the one on the left has a far more cartoonish design than the one on the right. The artist who worked on the right grounded their design in anatomy rather than fantasy.
The left one has cartoonish fangs being held in place by nothing, the right one has fangs firmly rooted in its mouth. Same deal with the spikes, they just look like they're coming out of nothing on the left, on the right you can see thought was put into them being part of the underlying skeleton and then jutting out of the skin, likely using something like a rhino's horn for reference.

etc., etc.,

 

[Tyranicon]

So this says nothing about the quality of the game, but I think PB made a big mistake on the release window. Elex 1's all-time peak was 22k.

Big ooof.

 

[curds]

the one on the left has a far more cartoonish design than the one on the right. The artist who worked on the right grounded their design in anatomy rather than fantasy.

Right, so you were referring to the detailing, rather than the basic design of the creature. No shit the remake has greater care put into graphical details. The original was made like 10 years earlier, with a tiny budget by developers who have always favoured gameplay and atmosphere over graphical fidelity, as opposed to a developer - with, I would imagine, a much larger budget - whose sole "thing" is making graphics look nice. Japanese/Western is not relevant in this case.

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

No sense in comparing these two. It is like comparing piece of wood to modern car.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

the one on the left has a far more cartoonish design than the one on the right. The artist who worked on the right grounded their design in anatomy rather than fantasy.

Right, so you were referring to the detailing, rather than the basic design of the creature. No shit the remake has greater care put into graphical details. The original was made like 10 years earlier, with a tiny budget by developers who have always favoured gameplay and atmosphere over graphical fidelity, as opposed to a developer - with, I would imagine, a much larger budget - whose sole "thing" is making graphics look nice. Japanese/Western is not relevant in this case.

No, we're referring to the design.
The idea that games 10 years ago didn't have non-cartoon designs is fucking stupid.

 

[curds]

The idea that games 10 years ago didn't have non-cartoon designs is fucking stupid.

As stupid as the idea that one design has less detail because it's Japanese. They're both equally unrealistic, neither is cartoony in my opinion. The first image has less attention to detail, for want of a better phrase. That's it.

And again, not an East vs West issue.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The idea that games 10 years ago didn't have non-cartoon designs is fucking stupid.

As stupid as the idea that one design has less detail because it's Japanese. They're both equally unrealistic, neither is cartoony in my opinion. The first image has less attention to detail, for want of a better phrase. That's it.

And again, not an East vs West issue.

If you can't see how the left one clearly has a cartoon(anime, whatever) inspiration, you need to buy some glasses.

 

[perfectslumbers]

Fun fact the vanguard demon in Demons Souls had it's model taken from the 2006 game enchanted arms

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

No, we're referring to the design.
The idea that games 10 years ago didn't have non-cartoon designs is fucking stupid.

It’s your assumption that the original attempted to be “cartoon-y” (rather than just poor in detail for budget/skill limits) to be stupid, here.

Especially if you take a look at the overall aesthetic/vibe of the entire game.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

No, we're referring to the design.
The idea that games 10 years ago didn't have non-cartoon designs is fucking stupid.

It’s your assumption that the original attempted to be “cartoon-y” (rather than just poor in detail for budget/skill limits) to be stupid, here.

Especially if you take a look at the overall aesthetic/vibe of the entire game.

The above post already established it was pulled directly from a game with anime aesthetics.
You guys are in deep, deep denial over your weebery.

 

[Trithne]

So this says nothing about the quality of the game, but I think PB made a big mistake on the release window. Elex 1's all-time peak was 22k.

Big ooof.

I don't think the release window would've made much of a difference, Elden Ring had stupid levels of hype and anything "soulslike" gets fellated by gamers.

 

[Cat Dude]

I just expect typical horrible combat animation in ELEX 2.

 

[Roguey]

So this says nothing about the quality of the game, but I think PB made a big mistake on the release window. Elex 1's all-time peak was 22k.

Big ooof.

The one-two punch of better competition and sequel fatigue (also the sequel is very clearly not an improvement over the original).

 

[Tacgnol]

They were never going to compete with Elden Ring, but there was no need for them to do so.

A month was all they needed to wait.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

I don't think the release window would've made much of a difference, Elden Ring had stupid levels of hype and anything "soulslike" gets fellated by gamers.

Yeah, it's almost like they are good games or something.

 

[Mortmal]

So this says nothing about the quality of the game, but I think PB made a big mistake on the release window. Elex 1's all-time peak was 22k.

Big ooof.

I don't think the release window would've made much of a difference, Elden Ring had stupid levels of hype and anything "soulslike" gets fellated by gamers.

Stupid levels of hype yet it's even better than expected.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Like i said, there's some obvious signs it was made by Japanese people but there's a fine line between being annoyed by animu shit and being annoyed by Japanesness as such, which i think is going too far.

The game has a better atmosphere than a lot of western games and a lot of western shit have their own retarded quirks as well (like the WoW style that has ruined plenty of medieval or fantasy western games).

There is ONE actual animu thing in the game and that's the big tittied goddess but as the story goes the artist showed up with the model after spending all day making it and even though Myazaki expressively asked not to have that stuff in the game, he let that one slide because he didn't have the heart to tell the modeler to redo it.

That ought to at least tell you some of the mindset that went behind the making of the game. I mean, to wit:

That's interesting. Do the in-game maps cover ALL the similar ground as the IRL places. It'd be cool to navigate and take screen pics/vids. I was disappointed there was no irl big titted goddess vid or the anime one in game.