Elex 2 VS Elden Ring

[curds]

Citing the number of active players is not a good argument for which is the better game. Every codex user should know this.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Citing the number of active players is not a good argument for which is the better game. Every codex user should know this.

If you like dork souls then elden ring is unarguably the better game. I don't even have to play it to know this, just judging solely by player feedback and how much they're enjoying it.
I'm 20 hours into ELEX 2 and I'd rate it at about 6/10 right now, and I'm someone who liked ELEX. It didn't really address any of the issues I had with ELEX and is worse in a lot of areas.

 

[Mortmal]

Citing the number of active players is not a good argument for which is the better game. Every codex user should know this.

Sure but it's not because its popular that it's shit either. Elden ring is one of the best game, not just rpg , released in the last 20 years . Only place who disagree is here , and even here only few butthurt codexers and its newsposter , probably cause he got no bribe , nor any free key this time .

 

[Harthwain]

Sure but it's not because its popular that it's shit either. Elden ring is one of the best game, not just rpg , released in the last 20 years . Only place who disagree is here , and even here only few butthurt codexers and its newsposter , probably cause he got no bribe , nor any free key this time .

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On a more serious note - could you say how Elden Ring is better than Dark Souls 1 or 2 (or any game "released in the last 20 years")? I got these, but wasn't too keen on Elden Ring, because I was out of the loop due to the shortage of time.

 

[Mortmal]

Sure but it's not because its popular that it's shit either. Elden ring is one of the best game, not just rpg , released in the last 20 years . Only place who disagree is here , and even here only few butthurt codexers and its newsposter , probably cause he got no bribe , nor any free key this time .

Avatar checks out.

On a more serious note - could you say how Elden Ring is better than Dark Souls 1 or 2 (or any game "released in the last 20 years")? I got these, but wasn't too keen on Elden Ring, because I was out of the loop due to the shortage of time.

On a serious note it's better than previous soul games , its not easier at all, some part are easy yes , but many optional fights are a lot harder while having a gigantic open world . If you dont enjoy soul games you will hate it for sure. If you like them , are into challenging gameplay or i'd rather say like games used to be you will love it . Its a real game for gamers with the japanese touch , meaning ton of secrets and hidden stuff like nintendo games . It does everything the previous souls done , often recycling assest and animation too ,but it's like 3X a soul game in size with the same haunting atmosphere and setting.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Never played a dark souls, am I missing something great?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souls_(series)

Eh? What?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Field

Dark Souls Spoilers ..... for some

Anyway...

 

[Lord Commissar Alexer]

Eh...not sure. Elex 2 is currently quite the disapointment for me and Elden Ring is at times quite frustating.

 

[curds]

Elden ring is one of the best game, not just rpg , released in the last 20 years .

Huge overstatement, IMO. It's not even the best Fromsoft game released in the last 20 years. I don't mean to say that I'm not enjoying it, because I am, but it's literally just Dark Souls, but worse. The open world, horse and crafting don't impress me, and aside from that, it doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Never played a dark souls, am I missing something great?

Yes. If you like action RPGs, play the first Dark Souls. It's the best the subgenre has to offer. But keep in mind it's structured more like an action-adventure game, rather than a regular RPG; there are no towns, not really any quests, very few friendly NPCs and little dialogue - it's more about just making your way through the levels, playing with different character builds, killing enemies and solving minor exploration/memory-based puzzles.

Also: King's Field is great (at least KF4 is, the one I've played) but that series leans even more towards the action-adventure side of things

 

[Tyranicon]

After 30+ hours, I'd say Elden Ring is squarely in the middle of modern Fromsoft games on quality. Definitely not among the worst, but also not as tightly designed as Dark Souls 1 IMO.

However, the content there is vast. Quantity truly has a quality all of its own.

 

[Mortmal]

Elden ring is one of the best game, not just rpg , released in the last 20 years .

Huge overstatement, IMO. It's not even the best Fromsoft game released in the last 20 years. I don't mean to say that I'm not enjoying it, because I am, but it's literally just Dark Souls, but worse. The open world, horse and crafting don't impress me, and aside from that, it doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Never played a dark souls, am I missing something great?

Yes. If you like action RPGs, play the first Dark Souls. It's the best the subgenre has to offer. But keep in mind it's structured more like an action-adventure game, rather than a regular RPG; there are no towns, not really any quests, very few friendly NPCs and little dialogue - it's more about just making your way through the levels, playing with different character builds, killing enemies and solving minor exploration/memory-based puzzles.

Also: King's Field is great (at least KF4 is, the one I've played) but that series leans even more towards the action-adventure side of things

Sorry but all the best parts of previous souls are in the game ,wont say everything is perfect but if you are not impressed it means you lost all you passion for videogames, you are too jaded and wont enjoy anything anymore.

 

[Mortmal]

After 30+ hours, I'd say Elden Ring is squarely in the middle of modern Fromsoft games on quality. Definitely not among the worst, but also not as tightly designed as Dark Souls 1 IMO.

However, the content there is vast. Quantity truly has a quality all of its own.

30 hours , you have not seen 1/5 of the game yet.

 

[Kruno]

Quantity truly has a quality all of its own.

ea and ubi certainly have shown this

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Beaubiful.

 

[Tyranicon]

After 30+ hours, I'd say Elden Ring is squarely in the middle of modern Fromsoft games on quality. Definitely not among the worst, but also not as tightly designed as Dark Souls 1 IMO.

However, the content there is vast. Quantity truly has a quality all of its own.

30 hours , you have not seen 1/5 of the game yet.

I've been taking my time and spoiled some things for myself, so I'd say I'm roughly 50% through the story, but lots to go for clearing the map. I keep discovering new things in even well explored areas. I would say exploration-wise, this is the best modern From game. Environments are beautifully designed, the linear levels are peak Dark Souls, and even the map menu is made well (although maybe taking a bit too much mystery out of where to find new things).

Most of my quibbles are with the boss combat. Fun-wise, this is probably going to be my second favorite From game, after Dark Souls 1.

ea and ubi certainly have shown this

Ah but the quality here is much better than EA or Ubisoft. Even in an open world, there's that handcrafted feeling I get... because it is handcrafted. Items are placed smartly, environmental storytelling like battlefields with placement of bodies, enemy mobs are grouped together realistically (or as much as a Fromsoft game allows).

Playing as a dev, it's hard not to be impressed by this. Making games yourself unfortunately takes the fun out of a lot of games because you over-analyze. But Fromsoft puts out very quality work.

 

[curds]

Sorry but all the best parts of previous souls are in the game ,wont say everything is perfect but if you are not impressed it means you lost all you passion for videogames, you are too jaded and wont enjoy anything anymore.

Exactly. Most of the gameplay ingredients from previous Souls games are here, but if the only major addition (the open world) does not impress me, why should I be amazed? I've already played Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 and Bloodborne, which all have basically the same gameplay.

Aside from the open world, the other additions are things I don't like: taking away player agency by not allowing us to attack Roundtable Hold NPCs if we want, fast travel from almost any location at almost any time, not being able to invade 1v1, quest arrows in the form of guiding lights at sites of grace and on the map.

BTW, in my opinion the best things about Dark Souls, mostly the first game, are the tightly packed world, where there is something worth finding around every corner (gone because of the massive open world) and the somber, relatively down-to-earth atmosphere (gone in favour of over-the-top "woah, epic!!!" atmosphere). Lordran felt like it could be a real place, as far as high fantasy goes, the Lands Between don't.

Still think Elden Ring is a fun game, though.

 

[ElectricOtter]

they both suck but i'm particularly happy that elex 2 turned out to be barely playable and virtually rancid shit just so i can dunk on the wrpg retards HARD :333

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

So, DS series is storyfagging? Is that the case with Elden?

 

[curds]

So, DS series is storyfagging? Is that the case with Elden?

Little-to-no storyfaggotry in Dark Souls unless you want there to be. There is very little dialogue, very few cutscenes. Loredumps are cleverly relegated to item descriptions, so if you don't care, it can be completely ignored, but if you are interested it's at your fingertips at any time.

Elden Ring is similar enough.

 

[Cat Dude]

I hate bald space marine

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Most of dork souls lore is YouTubers doing cringe literary analysis.

 

[Mortmal]

After 30+ hours, I'd say Elden Ring is squarely in the middle of modern Fromsoft games on quality. Definitely not among the worst, but also not as tightly designed as Dark Souls 1 IMO.

However, the content there is vast. Quantity truly has a quality all of its own.

30 hours , you have not seen 1/5 of the game yet.

I've been taking my time and spoiled some things for myself, so I'd say I'm roughly 50% through the story, but lots to go for clearing the map. I keep discovering new things in even well explored areas. I would say exploration-wise, this is the best modern From game. Environments are beautifully designed, the linear levels are peak Dark Souls, and even the map menu is made well (although maybe taking a bit too much mystery out of where to find new things).

Most of my quibbles are with the boss combat. Fun-wise, this is probably going to be my second favorite From game, after Dark Souls 1.

ea and ubi certainly have shown this

Ah but the quality here is much better than EA or Ubisoft. Even in an open world, there's that handcrafted feeling I get... because it is handcrafted. Items are placed smartly, environmental storytelling like battlefields with placement of bodies, enemy mobs are grouped together realistically (or as much as a Fromsoft game allows).

Playing as a dev, it's hard not to be impressed by this. Making games yourself unfortunately takes the fun out of a lot of games because you over-analyze. But Fromsoft puts out very quality work.

Some huge secret areas are unlocked by quests, some are very cryptic ,rannia and fia quest for exemple they are optional but alter the main story . 30 hours taking your time, even as a codexer ubermensch , there's no way you are 50% through.

 

[Mortmal]

Elden ring is one of the best game, not just rpg , released in the last 20 years .

Huge overstatement, IMO. It's not even the best Fromsoft game released in the last 20 years. I don't mean to say that I'm not enjoying it, because I am, but it's literally just Dark Souls, but worse. The open world, horse and crafting don't impress me, and aside from that, it doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Never played a dark souls, am I missing something great?

Yes. If you like action RPGs, play the first Dark Souls. It's the best the subgenre has to offer. But keep in mind it's structured more like an action-adventure game, rather than a regular RPG; there are no towns, not really any quests, very few friendly NPCs and little dialogue - it's more about just making your way through the levels, playing with different character builds, killing enemies and solving minor exploration/memory-based puzzles.

Also: King's Field is great (at least KF4 is, the one I've played) but that series leans even more towards the action-adventure side of things

Doesnt have to reinvent the wheel ,more weapons, more spells over an existing system with some new bosses tactics in the best dungeon design since a while that's good enough. The amount of content, the lore , the atmosphere outmatch everything else. The competion is some janky action rpg , elex 2, that is barely palayable at launch and requires patches, like most western developpers do now.The dev mentality is everyone doing shit so i am going to do shit too.
If you are not happy with it, i fear your depression will worsen.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Never played a dark souls, am I missing something great?

Well, on one hand yes, because it's a series that is generally exceptionally good at what it does and even at its lowest and jankiest (Dark Souls 2) offers more substance that a lot of studios could even hope to achieve on their best design.
On the other hand, NO if the raving retarded lunatic you posted with the first video is your idea of "good out-of-the-choir voice in videogame commentary".

 

[Silentstorm]

Dark Souls is a good series, Elden Ring and any other still is different from DS1 though, that one for some reason always felt really slow and clunky with how the character moves, particularly against bosses where it could feel like they belonged in a different game with how fast they move for how slow your character moves and attacks, i guess it was for realism sake, but movement just feels better in every other game, however, the world of DS1 is well designed and exploring gives a lot of benefits...i just think it's not that much better than every other Soulsborne game and has issues of it's own...and qualities of it's own.

Dark Souls is a divisive series, every game is beloved but different enough people will argue for ages on which is the best and differences may make any game hated, i know someone who HATED Dark Souls 1 and is loving Elden Ring and managed to play DS2 and 3 with no issues, just as there are people who HATE DS2 or 3, like i said, it's a weird series where every game has a feel of it's own somehow despite clearly being the same series, general reaction is loving every single game in the franchise though.

Also, they call them hard, but...well, you aren't supposed to rush in a Soulsborne game ever, you are supposed to take your time, watch out for traps, try to fight as little enemies as possible and the games do give you items and stuff to help that people ignore because games nowadays don't require or make it worth using every item around even if it looks useless, play smart and slow and you should be fine...also, in some areas it's fine to avoid enemies when doing the same area for the 10th time when facing a boss.

 

[JDR13]

I think Elden Ring is better than any of the Dark Souls games, but it's not anywhere near deserving of the ridiculously high scores given to it by the critics. 9.5/10? FromSoft must have greased a lot of palms to get those scores.

On the other hand, I do think it's better than the user scores which are hovering around a 7/10 right now.

In truth, a realistic score is probably somewhere about halfway between the critics and users.