ELEX ELEX II - Jax is back

[SoupNazi]

Interestingly enough, other than the obvious bugs in fights (especially with those monsters who dig underground), I didn't really have any technical issues with the game. It ran pretty well on my two year old PC, no crashes or anything and pretty stable FPS on like the second best settings.

 

[lukaszek]

Darth Roxor imagine you could play cyberpunk instead

 

[Cpt. Dallas]

Done. Obvious sequel bait. I think I saw one CTD during the whole playthrough. Decent performance 1080p, high. Infinite jetpack should have been added sooner, maybe beginning of Chp 4, latest.
Incentive to explore is mixed. Some of the unique weapons are worse than the stock ones.

Spoiler

'Oh, btw honey, our son plugged himself into the matrix and then turned himself off. Sorry. Oh yeah, I left his body there too.'
'Who?'

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Incentive to explore is mixed. Some of the unique weapons are worse than the stock ones.

The world/exploration was obviously designed for an itemization system that simply does not exist in the game. The only thing you have to look forward to is more healing potions & cooked food after you find a decent weapon.

 

[exe]

Does it actually need win10?

 

[lukaszek]

regarding mother of your son, I think something was lost in translation as her interactions are complete puzzle to me.

Spoiler

she wanted me to kill a spy. I didnt. She threw tantrum and went to berserkers to cool down. 'We will talk in few days'

That talk never happened. She is stuck in 'We will talk later' while standing next to the tree. Was only able to talk with her about DEX being dead and her 'yeah, whatever'.
She was no longer marked as companion and wouldnt help war efforts in any way

 

[Darth Roxor]

Does it actually need win10?

Yes. Otherwise it crashes after the intro.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Does it actually need win10?

it might be as simple as plopping dxvk's dxgi.dll and d3d11.dll into the game's folder if all that's making it crash is a dx11 feature level 12 requirement

runs fine on lunix btw

 

[Peachcurl]

regarding mother of your son, I think something was lost in translation as her interactions are complete puzzle to me.

Spoiler

she wanted me to kill a spy. I didnt. She threw tantrum and went to berserkers to cool down. 'We will talk in few days'

That talk never happened. She is stuck in 'We will talk later' while standing next to the tree. Was only able to talk with her about DEX being dead and her 'yeah, whatever'.
She was no longer marked as companion and wouldnt help war efforts in any way

Maybe you forgot to pay alimony?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

regarding mother of your son, I think something was lost in translation as her interactions are complete puzzle to me.

Spoiler

she wanted me to kill a spy. I didnt. She threw tantrum and went to berserkers to cool down. 'We will talk in few days'

That talk never happened. She is stuck in 'We will talk later' while standing next to the tree. Was only able to talk with her about DEX being dead and her 'yeah, whatever'.
She was no longer marked as companion and wouldnt help war efforts in any way

Spoiler

from my investigation it wasn't even a spy, the dude just fucked up. Killing him over what he did would be ridiculous, bitch is fucking crazy.

 

[Cpt. Dallas]

Many of the NCP questlines continue when you start the next chapter.

 

[Modron]

Spoiler

from my investigation it wasn't even a spy, the dude just fucked up. Killing him over what he did would be ridiculous, bitch is fucking crazy.

Zerkers were the morally shittiest faction in the first game as well, lots of kill this dude because of slight differences of opinion, exile that dude to a place where he will most likely die because he screwed up/said something in the moment that disagreed with their rigid dogma, et cetera.

 

[Peachcurl]

Outlaws always were the best faction. Only their skills suck.

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

Caja wasn't too happy about this.

 

[Mauman]

Caja wasn't too happy about this.

I bet.

Played through the 1st game 3 times (one per faction) and romanced Caja for 2 of them. 3rd one I romanced Nasty and the reaction from Caja was a bit more than what Nasty does in the reverse.

 

[Angelo85]

Alright little update on my showstopping bug: I issued a support ticket with "redmine", the Publishers bug tracker, a couple days ago and today my ticket was closed with the note that the bug will be fixed in the next patch. Fingers crossed that I can continue playing now. If it's a false promise I'll probably deinstall for good.

 

[Nikanuur]

can anyone please explain to me what exactly is even the point of parrying in this retarded fucking combat system if a guy can just ignore your parry and immediately follow up with another bash that kills you dead holy fuck

Idk what exactly is happening in your game. I give you the benefit of doubt that you parry properly. That being said, if done properly, parry should sort of stagger the enemy for a little while. These three things take effect:

1) Enemy loses some more stamina.
2) Enemy backs down a bit. However, this has got a strangely non-distinctive animation in some cases.
3) Enemy receives higher damage from the following strike.

I have managed to parry few animals' attacks and some humans' with the following presumed "free ++damage attack". Can't say what are the exact conditions for it to proc though. Size of enemies, kinds of attacks...? Anyway, I don't use it very often. Parry is risky, I'd rather dodge / jetpack / use environment to my advantage, especially on lower levels.

 

[Darth Roxor]

More often than not, when I fight against humans, and they do a 'combo' of 3 or whatever regular strikes, if I try to parry, I hear a 'cling!' sound that would suggest I timed it right, and in fact I don't take damage immediately. But the enemy DOESN'T get staggered/pushed back, and he IMMEDIATELY follows up with another regular strike in the combo.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I can't imagine why anyone would use parry when dodging is far simpler

 

[Nikanuur]

I don't think I'll be able to finish this game. It just doesn't feel like a Piranha Bytes game. I think they're done as a developer.

I quit because of a bug, but even if it's fixed I won't finish it. 30 hours felt like enough to be done with the game.

The only semi-decent thing is exploration but there's no incentive to explore. Once you have a good weapon, that's it, you're done. The "RPG" mechanics are so streamlined and reduced to the bare minimum that the only thing that matters is how much damage your weapon does. All the armor of the same tier is effectively identical with one stat: armor.
This is the sort of shit I'd expect from a Bethesda iteration, but then I remember Fallout 4 actually has multiple damage types, location-based damage, attributes that do something, armor with stats/unique effects, armor/weapon modding, ... Even the perks that Bethesda took from FO1/2 that are still around are more interesting than the abilities ELEX 2 has now that the game is lacking anything like cleric mind trick and such.

Is ELEX 2 actually an RPG?
No, I don't think so. It's an action game with RPG elements. I'd have a really hard time explaining how this differs significantly from recent Far Cry games in terms of mechanics.
Well, besides Far Cry having much better gunplay. Otherwise, they're not very different.

I suppose it's not your fault. It must be the schooling system.

 

[Nikanuur]

More often than not, when I fight against humans, and they do a 'combo' of 3 or whatever regular strikes, if I try to parry, I hear a 'cling!' sound that would suggest I timed it right, and in fact I don't take damage immediately. But the enemy DOESN'T get staggered/pushed back, and he IMMEDIATELY follows up with another regular strike in the combo.

Dang, that really doesn't sound so good indeed.

 

[Jinn]

More often than not, when I fight against humans, and they do a 'combo' of 3 or whatever regular strikes, if I try to parry, I hear a 'cling!' sound that would suggest I timed it right, and in fact I don't take damage immediately. But the enemy DOESN'T get staggered/pushed back, and he IMMEDIATELY follows up with another regular strike in the combo.

Yeah, that's not a properly timed parry when you get the "chink" sound. It blocks the damage, but majorly drains your stamina, while possibly leaving you open to further attacks as you've described. It happens like this when you're either slightly too early or too late in your timing. A well-timed parry will stagger the opponent, drain a large part of their stamina, and leave them open for a devastating counter attack. It makes a weird low-pitched almost bouncing noise when you achieve this.

As for why do it when it's easier to dodge? It's more satisfying when you pull it off and makes combat more interesting. Is it good combat design? Not particularly.

 

[Nikanuur]

More often than not, when I fight against humans, and they do a 'combo' of 3 or whatever regular strikes, if I try to parry, I hear a 'cling!' sound that would suggest I timed it right, and in fact I don't take damage immediately. But the enemy DOESN'T get staggered/pushed back, and he IMMEDIATELY follows up with another regular strike in the combo.

Yeah, that's not a properly timed parry when you get the "chink" sound. It blocks the damage, but majorly drains your stamina, while possibly leaving you open to further attacks as you've described. It happens like this when you're either slightly too early or too late in your timing. A well-timed parry will stagger the opponent, drain a large part of their stamina, and leave them open for a devastating counter attack. It makes a weird low-pitched almost bouncing noise when you achieve this.

As for why do it when it's easier to dodge? It's more satisfying when you pull it off and makes combat more interesting. Is it good combat design? Not particularly.

I concur with the strange noise on a successful parry. So, you say the other one is just a "block" or some such? Must investigate soon. All the guards at Fort prepare!

 

[Peachcurl]

I can't imagine why anyone would use parry when dodging is far simpler

For just the evasion of damage, sure. But the additional damage your counter attack does is actually quite significant. Doesn't exactly make it easier, but it ends fights quicker.

 

[Zeriel]

I bought this but seeing the hideous decline in art style and talk in the thread is really giving me second thoughts. Is it worth my time to play, or should I put it off?