ELEX ELEX RELEASE THREAD

[GloomFrost]

I ve noticed that some people really idealize combat system and balance in Gothics.

Gothics came out in early 2000s. Back then, melee combat in RPGs was stuff like Morrowind's click-attack-click-attack, Bioware's click once and continue attacking, or the more sophisticated click directionally-attack-click directionally-attack of Ultima Underworld/Daggerfall.

Then Gothics came and introduced a melee combat system where you could time your weapon block to parry the enemy and then counter-attack, where you could string attacks into fancy looking combos, and where increasing your weapon skill actually led to different, more efficient and cooler animations. This was years before Mount & Blade, and more than a decade before Witcher 3.

Some of you who have played them recently for the first time don't realize how revolutionary they were in terms of combat at that time, even if it's not very polished or perfect.

Oh WOW. Thats crazy. Thank you so much for telling me all that useful, interesting and relevant information.Because i never played anything before Elex and only tried gothic yesterday morning. Still not sure what its got to do with me saying that using jetpack to gain an advantage in combat is not that different from getting up on the hill and shooting enemies in Gothic. (and the could do nothing about it coz most enemies in Gothic did not have ranged attacks unlike Elex where almost everyone does!!!!).
P.S. Oh BTW animations changed after improving yours skill with melee weapons in Planescape Torment. Years before the first Gothic came out.

 

[Darth Roxor]

holy smokes dat potato too

 

[Lambach]

Should I start pumping Dex and Int from the start if I intend to join the Clerics or should I put some points in Con and Str first?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Oh BTW animations changed after improving yours skill with melee weapons in Planescape Torment.

uh no they didnt

 

[Tygrende]

Should I start pumping Dex and Int from the start if I intend to join the Clerics or should I put some points in Con and Str first?

I would pump DEX/INT first to start using plasma rifles ASAP. You can find a good low level plasma rifle in the South Abessa Converter, requires 39 DEX and 27 INT. Alternatively you can find the traveling merchant next ot the Domed City and buy a standard plasma rifle from him, requires 41 DEX and 28 INT. Investing is DEX/INT early on is also good because of the ranged weapons skill and animal trophies.

 

[Grimlorn]

i am supposed to find the code for

Spoiler

the missile launch base

?
or there is some enigma?
i don't understand what's the point of hack skill if i can find all the code in game.

Spoiler

Maybe it's different if you're a Cleric. I heard there is a quest with Eva in the Hort for it. The Four Houses clues give the 4 digit combo for the launch base. Although this isn't really made clear. Maybe you can figure it out from there.

 

[Tigranes]

Should I start pumping Dex and Int from the start if I intend to join the Clerics or should I put some points in Con and Str first?

Alternatively just go INT/CUN for Black Hole & utility spells.

The climbing point costs after 30 then 60 means it's really easy for other skills to catch up and you'll end up doing that with almost all chars, so don't worry too much about it.

 

[Raghar]

So, I just found out that the english translation is trash and largely different from the original german version. As a matter of fact all translations are trash since all of them are based on the english one.

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Logan's motivation for blowing up Hort is completly different. In the german version he considers Clerics to be even more dangerous than the Albs while in the english version he's just being a selfish asshole.

Can we get English translation of that last column?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Can we get English translation of that last column?

"Why the clerics, exactly?"
"They are the TRUE hypocrites of Magalan"
"Their greatest weapon is infiltration. They act behind your back and kill you before you can even notice that YOURSELF."
"They declare their false faith and behave as if they were the world police"
"They are much more dangerous than the Albs themselves."

 

[Tigranes]

.......

I'm assuming the 'translators' couldn't actually read German and nobody at PB could read English

 

[agentorange]

Sometimes I think the people doing these translations don't even understand the language and are just making stuff up based on vague context.

 

[Lambach]

Fucking hell, poor translation is one thing, this is a complete re-write.

 

[Raghar]

World police? That's US nick name. Perhaps Merkle censored it in English to prevent an incident.

 

[SlamDunk]

So, I just found out that the english translation is trash and largely different from the original german version. As a matter of fact all translations are trash since all of them are based on the english one.

Spoiler

Logan's motivation for blowing up Hort is completly different. In the german version he considers Clerics to be even more dangerous than the Albs while in the english version he's just being a selfish asshole.

That's just... whoah...

Anyone up for the task of making a mod that gets the game properly translated into English?

 

[Murk]

Makes the Duke less of a dumbass, as well.

 

[Darth Roxor]

So, I just found out that the english translation is trash and largely different from the original german version. As a matter of fact all translations are trash since all of them are based on the english one.

Spoiler

Logan's motivation for blowing up Hort is completly different. In the german version he considers Clerics to be even more dangerous than the Albs while in the english version he's just being a selfish asshole.

That's just... whoah...

Anyone up for the task of making a mod that gets the game properly translated into English?

donate to my patreon

 

[Incantatar]

So, I just found out that the english translation is trash and largely different from the original german version. As a matter of fact all translations are trash since all of them are based on the english one.

Spoiler

Logan's motivation for blowing up Hort is completly different. In the german version he considers Clerics to be even more dangerous than the Albs while in the english version he's just being a selfish asshole.

I posted about the translation. There are examples where the English translation is a lot better than the original script. They had a guy rewrite the whole dialogue. It's hard to say which is the preferable script. I played both for several hours and I had all in all more meh moments in English. Otoh who cares when the script isn't very good in the first place.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

Should I start pumping Dex and Int from the start if I intend to join the Clerics or should I put some points in Con and Str first?

I would pump DEX/INT first to start using plasma rifles ASAP. You can find a good low level plasma rifle in the South Abessa Converter, requires 39 DEX and 27 INT. Alternatively you can find the traveling merchant next ot the Domed City and buy a standard plasma rifle from him, requires 41 DEX and 28 INT. Investing is DEX/INT early on is also good because of the ranged weapons skill and animal trophies.

This strikes me as a difficult way to play. If you intend to do ANY melee combat in the early to mid game, you need to put some points into STR. Even if you want a pure ranged build, you’ll need some STR to use a decent bow, so unless you want to be impotent until you get the plasma rifle, focusing exclusively on DEX/INT is a mistake.

By the time you get to level 7 or 8 it starts being fairly easy to pump your stats up very rapidly using elex potions, until you hit the wall at 60. That means in the early game you should invest in the stats you need immediately. You don’t really need to plan long term because of the elex potions. Although I do agree on the animal trophies skill, the first level of that can be taken from the getgo.

So I would focus on a non plasma rifle build, and then once you find some energy weapons, you’ll probably have the money to upgrade DEX/INT pretty fast.

Even if you want to hold off on all fighting until you get an energy weapon, the plasma rifle is NOT cost effective in the early game. 5 elexit per plasma cartridge really adds up if it’s the only weapon you’re using. Much cheaper to use a laser rifle or just stick with a bow. ONLY using a plasma rifle is really wasteful until you get animal trophies up to level 3.

 

[Lambach]

This strikes me as a difficult way to play. If you intend to do ANY melee combat in the early to mid game, you need to put some points into STR. Even if you want a pure ranged build, you’ll need some STR to use a decent bow, so unless you want to be impotent until you get the plasma rifle, focusing exclusively on DEX/INT is a mistake.

By the time you get to level 7 or 8 it starts being fairly easy to pump your stats up very rapidly using elex potions, until you hit the wall at 60. That means in the early game you should invest in the stats you need immediately. You don’t really need to plan long term because of the elex potions. Although I do agree on the animal trophies skill, the first level of that can be taken from the getgo.

So I would focus on a non plasma rifle build, and then once you find some energy weapons, you’ll probably have the money to upgrade DEX/INT pretty fast.

Even if you want to hold off on all fighting until you get an energy weapon, the plasma rifle is NOT cost effective in the early game. 5 elexit per plasma cartridge really adds up if it’s the only weapon you’re using. Much cheaper to use a laser rifle or just stick with a bow. ONLY using a plasma rifle is really wasteful until you get animal trophies up to level 3.

Are there any consequences for chugging Elex potions? I saw some guy claiming it leads to a bad ending or something.

 

[Tigranes]

Cold+, your level of cold determines options you can take

 

[Xeon]

I think someone said on this thread that he took enough potions to max his stats and his cold levels were still low.

Getting a re-translation of the game with the proper story and dialogue will be great, probably will be super confusing to play with english voices since they say the exact text tho.

 

[Lambach]

Cold+, your level of cold determines options you can take

It's pretty odd that being "emotional" is considered a desired/positive trait in a video-game about a post-apocalyptic world with only scraps of resources that people relentlessly murder each other over.

 

[razvedchiki]

"Even if you want to hold off on all fighting until you get an energy weapon, the plasma rifle is NOT cost effective in the early game. 5 elexit per plasma cartridge really adds up if it’s the only weapon you’re using. Much cheaper to use a laser rifle or just stick with a bow. ONLY using a plasma rifle is really wasteful until you get animal trophies up to level 3."

with the amount of elexit around it doesnt matter if the ammo costs 5 or 50 elexit per round,even with not stealing/fighting anything i had 20k elexit to spent on plasma cells when i first joined the clerics.

 

[Tigranes]

Cold+, your level of cold determines options you can take

It's pretty odd that being "emotional" is considered a desired/positive trait in a video-game about a post-apocalyptic world with only scraps of resources that people relentlessly murder each other over.

Actually play the game a bit and you'll see why Albs are emotionless, why some people (not all) rate emotion, etc, and the game doesn't ever pontificate about importance of emotions (unless it does so in the Cold ending which I haven't seen yet).

I think someone said on this thread that he took enough potions to max his stats and his cold levels were still low.

Getting a re-translation of the game with the proper story and dialogue will be great, probably will be super confusing to play with english voices since they say the exact text tho.

It was bugged in v1 and potions didn't affect Cold.

 

[Raghar]

Are there any consequences for chugging Elex potions? I saw some guy claiming it leads to a bad ending or something.

High cold means you are too rational, and too rational for some reasons prevents to make irrational decisions, which might lock you out of some dialogue options.