Elex
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probally divinity 2 will win.have you done your duty yet
That probably won't stop Skyrim or something from winning the award.
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ELEX ELEX RELEASE THREAD
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The tides and cold systems were poorly implemented. They both facilitated different endings, though Elex was more simplistic about it. In numanuma, having a blue/silver tide enabled a rejoining with the spectre to 'become whole', while jumping through a bunch of hoops (with a red tide? I didn't do this) allowed you to become the new memovira. These choices were divorced from the endgame dialogue with the sorrow, which meant you could see many different slide combinations. The ultimate result is not a huge gap, but it's there.
Things start pulling apart with regards to companions. In Elex, your companion reactivity is largely binary; you kill Duras or spare him, you fuck Caja or Nasty, you save Ray or...you don't? I know he can survive the end but this appears to again be based on cold level and not his quest. Falk is a one-noter, though perhaps taking him to kill his 'dad' triggers something. Arx is the only apparent exception here; you can kill him, dine with him enthusiastically, or find him a heart to compromise. The second option may lead back to the first. I admittedly need 5 more playthroughs before confirmation can be given.
In contrast, Rhin alone has 5 different fates. She can be sold into slavery at sagus, sent through the orphan portal, sold to the decanter, sent through the weird dude's portal to return as an adult, or simply kept along for the ride (OP option). Erritis can be sacrificed for raw power, left uncured, or cured. Matkina can be sacrificed, become the new leader of miel avest, or the new memovira. Tybir can be abandoned in sagus, or has a few different endings based on his quest. Callistege and Aligern are similar sans abandonment. I don't know about the toy because lul fuck playing that trash again just for slides.
You're right that sagus held most of the tangible c&c, but even that section alone consists of more than the bulk of Elex. Many sagus quests have several solutions compared to Elex's often binary approach, but neither game does a good job of providing long-term consequences outside the slides. Elex's domed city is the only area where your choices actually matter, but it is again completely binary and shallow. The one area Elex beats numanuma in c&c is post-game faction killing spree, because the latter doesn't feature anything comparable. Elex is a much better game overall, but numanuma's reactivity was superior, to the detriment of everything else it seems.
tl;dr Where numanuma's c&c fails, so too does Elex, but in many parts it is better. Whether by a nose or a mile, a win is a win. Elex is still my goty though because it's actually playable.
T. Reich
Arcane
Looking back, I'm kinda bewildered as to why PB made all of the "go together" companion missions as "teleporters". As a result, it feels really disjointed at times, especially if said companion mission just throws you in a middle of an action without possibility of backing out of it,
Why it couldn't be made as the very first "escort" mission you get (Duras leading you to Goliet) is beyond my understanding. The Duras' escort mission is very much oldschool PB - you get a temp companion who leads the way to the goal, but you're free to explore somewhat on the way.
So, instead of Nasty teleporting you to rape-fest where you barely have time to get ready for combat, you'd trigger her mission, get an active marker on your map, and Nasty would start running to that marker. If it's too far away by foot, you'd simply have her "teleport" to near that location, while you can take your sweet time to get there, including by teleporting to a nearby WP.
Why it couldn't be made as the very first "escort" mission you get (Duras leading you to Goliet) is beyond my understanding. The Duras' escort mission is very much oldschool PB - you get a temp companion who leads the way to the goal, but you're free to explore somewhat on the way.
So, instead of Nasty teleporting you to rape-fest where you barely have time to get ready for combat, you'd trigger her mission, get an active marker on your map, and Nasty would start running to that marker. If it's too far away by foot, you'd simply have her "teleport" to near that location, while you can take your sweet time to get there, including by teleporting to a nearby WP.
I voted AoD for that steam thing. Elex doesn't fit in my book for C&C heavy game cause of main quest, immortal npcs and low reactivity overall (unless I would rate only 50% of the game). I'd rather vote it for something like "No handholding allowed".
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Modron
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Nah obviously the Life is Strange Prequel will win (I am only half joking).probally divinity 2 will win.have you done your duty yet
That probably won't stop Skyrim or something from winning the award.
Iznaliu
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That only has 900,000 sales; remember the last Steam awards where all the games that won an award were really popular?
Elex
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ok
so player unknow batteground will win.
Iznaliu
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It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. In fact, I'd be shocked if it didn't win an award.
The fuck is ELEX doing in the second page???
Morkar Left
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Yeah, that's an insult! Why isn't it on number one already???
PorkyThePaladin
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So I finally got a two handed sword and expiremented with it.
One interesting thing is that you CAN do timed parries on other two-handers with a 2-handed weapon. However, that whole mechanic seems bugged as hell. It's kind of impossible to figure out when you should be parrying exactly. In Dark Souls, for example, you are told to parry as soon as you see the weapon begin its attack (after the windup or whatever). In Gothic 1/2, you had to hit parry as soon as you saw the attack. In Witcher 3, you could do it when the red bar lit up, or when it looked like the enemy weapon would hit.
Here, it's impossible to tell. I experimented at the Goliette gate against Drog, who has a 2 handed hammer. His attacks are very different, and some have really long windup stages. I was able to consistently parry one type of attack, , but the other 2-3 were just impossible to do. In fact, sometimes it almost seemed like i heard the soudn of a parry (metal on metal), but the attack hit me regardless.
The combat in this game is so weird. The timed parry and the roll are features of an action combat system, meant to be timed in reaction to the enemy, but neither of them really work that well, and the go-to defensive move seems to be just holding up block, which requires no skill or anything else. Is it just them running out of money before the combat system could be fully implemented?
One interesting thing is that you CAN do timed parries on other two-handers with a 2-handed weapon. However, that whole mechanic seems bugged as hell. It's kind of impossible to figure out when you should be parrying exactly. In Dark Souls, for example, you are told to parry as soon as you see the weapon begin its attack (after the windup or whatever). In Gothic 1/2, you had to hit parry as soon as you saw the attack. In Witcher 3, you could do it when the red bar lit up, or when it looked like the enemy weapon would hit.
Here, it's impossible to tell. I experimented at the Goliette gate against Drog, who has a 2 handed hammer. His attacks are very different, and some have really long windup stages. I was able to consistently parry one type of attack, , but the other 2-3 were just impossible to do. In fact, sometimes it almost seemed like i heard the soudn of a parry (metal on metal), but the attack hit me regardless.
The combat in this game is so weird. The timed parry and the roll are features of an action combat system, meant to be timed in reaction to the enemy, but neither of them really work that well, and the go-to defensive move seems to be just holding up block, which requires no skill or anything else. Is it just them running out of money before the combat system could be fully implemented?
T. Reich
Arcane
TBH, I never really mastered blocking/parrying, in none of G1+2, R1, DS1+2, or Elex.
In regards to defense in Elex, I found that offense is the best defense. Especially if you're using a 2h, because it's really easy to stun-lock an enemy with a properly-timed attack chain.
Rolling in this regard is just as offensive maneuver as it is defensive. Rolling as defense really only good when you know the enemy (and its attacks' timings) and do rolling in anticipation of their attacks rather than as the immediate reaction to an attack already in execution. In this regard, rolling is great for avoiding immediate enemy retaliations after you finished your attack chain. Then you usually get a bit of a breather to reposition and regen stamina, and then a couple more rolls usually put you in a good position to start attacking again.
This is all not an early game stuff, of course, because you will need to increase your baseline stamina quite a bit before you can execute more complex battle actions.
P.S.: And then there's the magic 1-button press "evade" action, which seems to utilise i-frames and is almost a cheat-mode, but it's disabled by default.
In regards to defense in Elex, I found that offense is the best defense. Especially if you're using a 2h, because it's really easy to stun-lock an enemy with a properly-timed attack chain.
Rolling in this regard is just as offensive maneuver as it is defensive. Rolling as defense really only good when you know the enemy (and its attacks' timings) and do rolling in anticipation of their attacks rather than as the immediate reaction to an attack already in execution. In this regard, rolling is great for avoiding immediate enemy retaliations after you finished your attack chain. Then you usually get a bit of a breather to reposition and regen stamina, and then a couple more rolls usually put you in a good position to start attacking again.
This is all not an early game stuff, of course, because you will need to increase your baseline stamina quite a bit before you can execute more complex battle actions.
P.S.: And then there's the magic 1-button press "evade" action, which seems to utilise i-frames and is almost a cheat-mode, but it's disabled by default.
Sjukob
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I'm playing cleric with focus on melee but I found their PSI abilities are pretty strong especially against crowds. Should I max PSI skill or choose ranged weapons instead ? Also how strong is one man army ?
Very stronk in my experience.
Luckmann
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Oh, how much we all wish that was true.except numanuma is not a game.Elex has shitty reactivity though. It pains me to say it, but credit where it's due; numanuma had the best c&c of the year.
Brancaleone
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Ok, thanks to the wealth of info graciously provided by the Codex' gentlemen, I've decided to wait a few patches and finally get Elex.
Also, to uphold the honourable internet tradition of feeling entitled to the fruit of other people's work: is the hell-hamster working on his bloody review, or not?
Also, to uphold the honourable internet tradition of feeling entitled to the fruit of other people's work: is the hell-hamster working on his bloody review, or not?
Kitchen Utensil
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I think he is. Donate to his patreon to speed up the process.
imweasel
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I am pretty sure there are no strongly pigmented Africanos in this game.
Riley is a spiritual negro.
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