Elite: Dangerous

[Ulminati]

Honestly, the best thing that could happen for ED is if they rolled us back to the 500-or-so systems we had during beta. You meet other people all the time there, and market prices actually fluctuated when people discovered and Daystar exploiting new trade routes

 

[J_C]

Honestly, the best thing that could happen for ED is if they rolled us back to the 500-or-so systems we had during beta. You meet other people all the time there, and market prices actually fluctuated when people discovered and Daystar exploiting new trade routes

Not going to happen, since 1 billion system was advertized in the game, and there are many people who just like to discover new systems many-many lightyears away.

And in my case, having 500 system didn't improve the game, not even one bit if the mission structure and grinding remains the same.

 

[Mortmal]

I think one of the biggest problems this game have is the size of a fucking galaxy. I remember Freelancer (yes, I know it sucked at many levels) server with Discovery mod where I've been constantly seeing other people.
ED? I got fully upgraded FDL and I've met maybe 10 players (and some more at stations) playing online all the time. Interactions were totally minimal.
Missions suck. PvE is boring. Powerplay suck (altough, it was promising when they mentioned it first) and doesn't work they way it should (Again, minimal interactions with other players), exploration is mostly boring.
Mining? I don't even have a word. It's not enjoyable and doesn't give you a profit it should. Hauling stuff is much better paid.
And now we have new "content", which is driving a buggie across almost empty planets. So much fun I'm fucking speechless. Have Braben even played his own game?

I have absolutely no hope they can improve it. The only sane thing they probably won't do is to make this game extremely moddable and give people abillity to create their own servers (possibly, with their own, smaller galaxies)
But first, Braben needs to milk it for 10 years.

No they probably cant, i check from time to time and there's nothing to change my mind. Next update is the engineer's one , so you can collect some stuff on planet surface, craft a few goodies at the engineers, tweak a bit your lazors, and thats all, back to the good'ol grinding with your new tweaked lazor. Maybe a little change to the backgorund simulator, now if you grind enough missions, the minor faction spaceport will greet you accordingly, a step in the right direction i gues,s but such a tiny little step as usual.
Problem is not the size of the universe, its they dont want to make it real sandbox ,nor give the players any tools it's still ultra static.If player corps could land outposts , harvest rare ressources etc.. Ah well . I have the feeling they saw eve online and took the worse of it, the boring pve,removed the good part player interaction and pvp , with added manual flying over it They have no skill.. they have no passion.

 

[Blaine]

 

[J_C]

If anyone had doubt about Elite and Frontier doing good, according to Frontier's latest business report, they sold 1,7 million copies, and they have a healthy net 8,6 million pounds in their bank account, not counting the results of the latest steam sale.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/FDEV/12881582.html

 

[praetor]

not counting the results of the latest steam sale.

they were never in the top 20, not even when they were on the frontpage. whenever i checked, i had to scroll for a loooong ass time to get to either Horizons or ED base. if they sold 1000 copies during the whole sale (through steam, at least) they can be happy

 

[DeepOcean]

If anyone had doubt about Elite and Frontier doing good, according to Frontier's latest business report, they sold 1,7 million copies, and they have a healthy net 8,6 million pounds in their bank account, not counting the results of the latest steam sale.

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/FDEV/12881582.html

Surprising enough David Braben looked like the underdog in the comparison with Star Citizen but he actually managed to release a game with his 2 million pounds, it is just a pity I don't play always online single player games.

 

[Ulminati]

Should just transfer SCs budget to ED and make a free expansion for everyone out of it with shitloads more content.

 

[praetor]

Should just transfer SCs budget to ED and make a free expansion for everyone out of it with shitloads more content.

with ED's current lead designers, it would still be one of the worst games ever, just with even more vapid, shallow, grindy, monotonous shit. until Sandro & co are replaced by actually competent game designers, you could shower them with triple the SC budget and nothing of substance would change

 

[Severian Silk]

IWarII is still the only space sim that had a universe that felt really "alive" to me.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

IWarII is still the only space sim that had a universe that felt really "alive" to me.

I never played IWar2, but it was written by the same guy who made Warhead. That felt more alive, with it's small number of planets, than any other space game. Maybe it's time I did play the IWars, since by all accounts they're evolutions of the same idea that started with Warhead.

 

[Ulminati]

Iwar2 was great back in the day, but didn't age so well.

It's also hell to get running on a modern PC.

 

[Angthoron]

You'll probably also want some UI mods for IW2, they're still up and around though so it's no big deal.

 

[shihonage]

Braben's mistake lies in thinking that the same barren gameplay I had on my ZX Spectrum is good enough in the 21st century.

 

[Severian Silk]

Braben's mistake lies in thinking that the same barren gameplay I had on my ZX Spectrum is good enough in the 21st century.

To be fair, it's what people asked for and what he promised.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i thought people were asking for a sequel to frontier, not elite.

 

[J_C]

i thought people were asking for a sequel to frontier, not elite.

Calling this game ELITE made this pretty clear me thinks.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

i thought people were asking for a sequel to frontier, not elite.

I think people were asking for a game that merged the best bits of both, rather than the worst.

 

[tindrli]

and people asked offline mode

 

[J_C]

and people asked offline mode

Why do some people still riding on this? I'm sorry if some poor chaps are living in some shithole where they don't have internet, but people should really just enter the XXI. century.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

the point is not on/offline, is how are differently built online and offline games.

 

[J_C]

I think if Frontier adhered to the same design principles, this game would be similar in offline and have the same shitty grinding. They should change the way they approach missions, whether they do it offline or online.

 

[Ulminati]

and people asked offline mode

But Braben explicitly said the game would be online only in the kickstarter. Probably because it has stopped people from pirating. That you guys aren't satisfied with a solo mode where other people can't come and blow you up is irrelevant. The game does what its developers promised it would, which is more than can be said for nearly every other kickstarted game.

It's like you guys buying lemon-lime and complaining that it doesn't taste like orange.

 

[Luka-boy]

It's like you guys buying lemon-lime and complaining that it doesn't taste like orange.

I do not make mistakes of that kind. It's the developer! He knows I like orange!

 

[Metro]

Leave it to JC to defend a train wreck like nu-ELITE.