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Empire of Sin - Brenda and John Romero's turn-based Mafia strategy

Discussion in 'Tactical Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    Get woke, go broke
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  3. thesecret1 Arcane

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    I don't really understand how one can fuck up game design this badly. Did nobody think "Hmm, won't the players just beeline to the boss every time rather than taking over his rackets, if killing him gives them all his rackets anyway?"? The economy is downright pathetic, in something that's supposed to be a management game, and the gameplay is repetitive as hell. Oh, and as a bonus, if you get the DLC, you'll get end-game weapons right on game start, just so you can quickly ruin your playthrough even further.

    What the actual hell is this shit?
     
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  4. Dickie Arcane Patron

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    But if you don't kill the mob bosses immediately, you can do a sit-down and get amazing bonuses like +2% profit from brothels. Isn't that more exciting than just taking over all of their businesses by killing them in a two-turn battle and getting 100x that much money?
     
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    Another game with the 2% increase curse.
     
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  6. Great Deceiver Arcane

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    Brenda Romero, game designer

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    It seems kind of crazy in this day and age, but I don't think the game had any kind of public beta prior to release. So my guess is the only people involved in testing were the devs, and for them the game has always been a LARP. If you don't have people play the game who are interested in stress-testing the mechanics, you won't find exploits or holes in your design.

    And that's me being charitable to the devs. The cynical explanation is that they didn't have a public beta because they knew the game is shit, and they just wanted to cash in as much as possible before the negative feedback took hold. Especially given the pay-to-win day one DLC.
     
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  8. prengle Learned

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    Has Cleve dunked on this yet??
     
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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In
    No. Source: I'm 100% sure it would have been reported there if he had.
     
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    romero gonna romero.
     
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    Good lord, another terrible game published by Paradox.

    These guys cant catch a break.
     
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  12. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Many of the Steam reviews note that the game is way too easy.

    You know your game is shit when it's "too easy for the average Steam user" easy.
     
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    decided to pick it up, it seems like there could possibly be a good game buried underneath the shit. maaaaybe patches (paradox paid DLC) will improve it over time
     
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    Good call
     
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  15. Quilty Magister

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    What a shame.

    On a related note, any of you guys remember Gangsters: Organized Crime? I loved that game as a kid, despite the quirks of its UI and its systems. There's just something about it that feels right. Wonder if it still holds up...
     
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    I TOLD you it was a turd sandwich
     
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  18. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Fuck you, BIGOT! That's not the reason!

    Cappuccino lesbianoids with nasty attitudes aren't jarring in any genre. It is in no way anachronistic or unrealistic for a black woman to wear a three-piece suit and carry a Tommy gun in Prohibition-era Chicago.
     
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    It does. It's a management game with fine management controls and a lot of obvious and hidden complexity alike. It will always hold up. Getting it to run is a little tricky, but doable on Win10 at least.
     
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  20. Quilty Magister

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    Thanks, I have to check out the GOG version, see if I can get it to run. Would actually do for a fun Codex-inspired LP, now that I think about it.
     
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  21. Volrath Arcane Patron

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    No, you were supposed to be the chosen one Romero.

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    What's funny is how the zDOOM modding community are now all tripping over their pre-op dicks because Johnny Boy there said something nice about trans on a charity stream somewhere - y'know, so the higher suicide rates can start at a younger age but they can compete totally fair in women's sports. </science>

    If only they knew anything of him 20 years ago...
     
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  23. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    RPG Wokedex Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    https://www.empireofsingame.com/news/a-sneak-peek-at-1-03

     
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  24. thesecret1 Arcane

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    Nice stuff, can't wait for the game to leave Alpha.
     
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    Sounds incredibly arbitrary for this sort of XCOM inspired game. Basically a random chance of unlocking the ability to actually proceed in the game at random.

    It does however, sound like something that would be much more at home paradox title. What are the chances they had to send out a "design consultant" to try and salvage the game.
     
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