Emulation central - recommendations in 1st post

[spekkio]

Isn't Peops a plugin/filter for 2d games?

Wat?

Why would you use it for a 3d game?

 

[A user named cat]

Use gpuBladeSoft vid plugin with Shark Enhanced patch for ePSXe, best setup for it. Since most links are dead now, I uploaded my emu folder with everything. You'll only need to change a couple things since I have like Peops Dsound set to 5.1 for my surround speakers.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1h25a2qyyz2k8wr/ePSXe.zip

 

[SCO]

If you're interested about the 'quest' to hack the vita, this is a good blog:
http://yifan.lu/

Also, bonus wii hacking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZRz0xikaAU

 

[spekkio]

Where have you been?


Sorry for talking shit about Demul earlier. It's the best DC emu ATM. Reasons:

1) Compatibility / quality of emulation. The only emu, which displays graphics properly on default settings.

a) NullDC r150

Shadows are fucked-up in Headhunter:

Rayman 2 is totally broken graphics-wise:

b) MakaronEX 4.1

Shadows in Headhunter are broken on default settings:

And can't be fixed:

You can only disable them altogether.



Rayman 2 has some issues on default settings (shadows & black squares instead of "sparkles")

But these can be fixed via F11 options:

Too bad that the emu lacks V-sync.



c) Demul 0.582

Everything works fine on default settings:

And V-sync works like a charm.



2) Does not require fooling around with different bios files for different regions. Just set region to "Auto" and forget about it.
Recent versions of NullDC & Makaron support region switching without the need of manually switching the files, but in the past it was a fucking nightmare.

3) Quicksaves [/post]

That is all.

 

[A user named cat]

NullDC may have its share of graphical glitches but Demul isn't any better all-around. It certainly doesn't have better compatibility. It runs a few titles better (Shenmue and maybe your examples) but NullDC plays many more games and without randomly crashing. It's probably best to have them both handy if you have a bunch of games. Save states are also bugged as hell and cause hanging, better off not using them.

 

[spekkio]

BTW, Rayman 2 PC works flawlessly in Glide mode (GoG version with nGlide included, 1680x1050 output res + DirectInput patch):

 

[Gragt]

New versions of MAME and MESS today, now at 0.153.

 

[SCO]

Ughhh, tell there aren't countless roms broken

 

[Gragt]

The Neo Geo bios appears to have been updated. :D That's the only notable one and only reasons some ROMs got broken. The rest of what I use seems fine. As for MESS it appears not many was changed: all of the bios files are the same and I didn't find differences with the ROMs so far.

 

[SCO]

Its ok then.

 

[A user named cat]

Performance impact is pretty harsh with 4x internal and AA. Would be nice if this were better optimized though I usually prefer the original res. I found a link if you want to try out this build.

http://shikaver01.webcrow.jp/desmume_x432r/DeSmuME X432R 2014-03-29-0.zip

Here's some comparisons on my 4670k @ 4.2GHz and shitty GTX 560 non-ti. Could be some bottlenecking due to gpu.

DS samples

1x SoftRasterizer


2x OpenGL


3x


4x + Edge AA

 

[SCO]

Desmume is so shitty performance wise for a JIT emulator. It's pathetic that PPSSPP is much faster than desmume in almost all games.

 

[A user named cat]

spekkio I was very wrong about Dreamcast emulators. I somehow confused Demul with Makaron when you brought up save states before, woops. I tried it for the first time tonight and you're right, this is better than NullDC and even easier to use. I've been recording some gameplay vids for emumovies and had to do some weird shit like Taxi 2 (French) and Space Griffin (Japanese). Neither would even boot in NullDC. Grabbed Demul, both played fine without any tinkering.

 

[spekkio]

Yeah, I tested some DC games on Demul and so far, all of them work (better or worse). Too bad that latest version is from 2013...

 

[SCO]

Did you try reicast?

edit: eh, although github says it's being worked on, the bug report page has crash bugs on shemue, which is a bad sign i guess.

 

[A user named cat]

Isn't reicast just for Android? Meaning inaccurate, poor audio and full of hacks so it'll run on shitty phones and tablets. At least that's what I'd assume.

Speaking of emulators needing updates though, would be nice if Virtual Jaguar and 4DO were worked on more frequently. Still plenty of issues with those which should've been ironed out ages ago, especially Virtual Jag.

 

[SCO]

Isn't reicast just for Android? Meaning inaccurate, poor audio and full of hacks so it'll run on shitty phones and tablets. At least that's what I'd assume.

I don't think it's only for android. First that would be kinda dumb since android is a linux with EGL2.0+ underneath, so there is no reason to limit it.
edit: i checked, and while they only distribute IOs and android compiles there is a linux x86 branch.

And also, if you look at the main page of NullDc source it says:

Development has kind of resumed as reicast -- might want to follow on https://github.com/reicast/emulator. Its still not as good as nullDC is, but we'll get there

So i expect at least some of the same authors on 2nd system syndrome. Dreamcast is also one the the last singleprocessor consoles (although the processor is superscalar) so it should have the potential to run faster than for instance ps2 emulators, with a decent JIT.
Then again, there is only 5 or so games with ports worth playing on the dreamcast so this doesn't matter except if your pc can't handle the stress.

 

[A user named cat]

Well that's silly then, as they make it sound as if they abandoned NullDC. I'll probably just use Demul mainly from now on anyway.

You're right though, DC library was a bit weak but you shouldn't overlook that people are still making games for it. Some of them worth checking out.

 

[SCO]

ok they have a linux x86 branch but i can't actually compile a functional thing in my linux 64 bits because they (obviously) require some opengl libraries on 86x and although ubuntu has multiarch, it doesn't extend to those libraries - trying to install them would uninstall a whole lot of shit that shouldn't be uninstalled, so it's basically uncompilable except on a 86x 32bits system (such as the raspeberry pi running linux).

Well, it's a recent branch, maybe they'll make it work. Maybe not, and then fuck them. It probably wouldn't work for me anyway, only OpenGL 4.1 cards/drivers have EGL compatibility because jews.

 

[A user named cat]

They started posting builds at emucr of that Desmume with the higher internal resolutions. Will make it easier to keep track of now if they continue optimizing.

http://www.emucr.com/2014/04/desmume-x432r-20140420.html

 

[ghostdog]

Final Fantasy IV : Complete collection, seems to be running fine in latest android ppsspp. You'll need some special settings to run it smoothly because when you go to the menus the fps is capped to 30 from the usual 60 and the music gets fucked up. Buffered rendering, 2x res (looks gud), as much frameskip as you need for the menus and also auto frameskip so it will be automatically lowered in actual game. Also disable stencil test to show the portraits correctly. FFIV is my favorite ff, let's see if they fucked it up.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Final Fantasy IV : Complete collection, seems to be running fine in latest android ppsspp. You'll need some special settings to run it smoothly because when you go to the menus the fps is capped to 30 from the usual 60 and the music gets fucked up. Buffered rendering, 2x res (looks gud), as much frameskip as you need for the menus and also auto frameskip so it will be automatically lowered in actual game. Also disable stencil test to show the portraits correctly. FFIV is my favorite ff, let's see if they fucked it up.

Well they made it a lot easier but aside from that, and the changed graphics, everything's about the same.

 

[A user named cat]

Looks like Mednafen is starting to see more regular updates which is great and its PSX emulation keeps getting better. Can't wait for him to finally implement save states. Currently using the latest 64-bit version with no issues.

http://mednafen.sourceforge.net/releases/

Upcoming versions

 

[spekkio]

So, it's finally time to DL Valkyria Chronicles?

 

[Hellraiser]

I dread to think how fast it will run on modern hardware. Maybe in 10 years.