Emulation central - recommendations in 1st post

[mk0]

My Retro-bit Sega Genesis/Mega Drive 8-button Arcade Pad /w USB(what a mouthful) arrived in the mail today. I've been trying it out and the d-pad hype is real, finally I have something that leaves my thumb unscathed after a beat 'em up session.
I would've initially gone for the wireless Saturn model, but those apparently have manufacturing defects in the shoulder and C buttons and they cost extra, so maybe next time?

 

[flyingjohn]

Anybody here with a powerful cpu interested in helping ps2 emulation?
The new focused on accuracy emu dobbiestation is aiming for 1.0 and anybody interested can contribute the compatibility list available here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPLMTBSB2xZ8Rar140jiLWNRqsLX9vlCx12PJS2H5aw/edit#gid=0
Here is a form to fill out a entry:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe0F1i-1jJtdpyN7nVSCwnhsQz8rDtlr_F06fPBRZWw_7YwoQ/viewform

The emu is available here:
https://github.com/PSI-Rockin/DobieStation
Windows binary are here:
https://github.com/PSI-Rockin/DobieStation/actions

And i decided to check out patreon numbers for emu devs:

-Cemu:
4279$
A a far cry from the 20k+ plus,but still a lot of money being made.

-Yuzu:
17,970$
DAYUM.

-RPCS3/nekotekina
3000.
Shame,it deserves to be higher considering the work they do.

-Luke usher/xbox emu
860$
Meh,as expected of xbox emu interest.

-Citra:
436$
Kinda low,but not needed considering the emu has been getting constant updates before patreon.

-PSI/Dobbiestation
95$
A big shame.This guy has been fixing broken/obscure ps2 games and is making a new ps2 emu which shows great promise.

-Xenia:
336$
A pleasant surprise considering how dead the interest has been for this thing.

 

[Hirato]

I had a quick play with DobieStation...

There's no support for any controllers yet, not even a basic Microsoft XInput stuff, which is greatly going to damper its appeal and testing a lot.
It appears conrols only exist in a set of hardcoded keyboard bindings that are only documented on the github README.

There's no audio output either, not sure if it's too incomplete, or if the host just isn't playing the audio from the appropriate buffer.

Attempting a 1.0 release without those 2 things is far too premature.
Irrespective of whether Final Fantasy X is able to go ingame with accurately rendered graphics at 10 FPS.



Even Play! does that much, though its implementation of both is pretty dogshit at the moment.
EDIT: 5 hours later, let's see if the Play! guy makes his controller support less dogshit... https://github.com/jpd002/Play-/issues/928

 

[flyingjohn]

Master ui makers can't into security:



Highlights:
-Core updater and netplay disabled
-No 2FA because fuck it
-Backups several months old
-Hoping on github(github told them fuck no) and users to fix it for them
-Patreon shilling for a byuu memorial statue(this one is fake)

 

[Viata]

The patreon shilling is for this:

Seems like a good way for ask for more money, just say "it was all hacker's fault".

 

[lightbane]

Soo, a hacker conveniently deleted part of the code, despite Github allowing you to make multiple copies, and the devs waste no time to bring up their Patreon account? This says enough about them.


Anyway, what's the latest build for Windows 7? Is that still available somewhere/do one of you guys happen to have it?

 

[spekkio]

1.9.0 works fine on Win7 x64. You can grab it from "main" download page:

https://retroarch.com/?page=platforms

Fortunately, the "big" archives have Assets included.

Unfortunately, you need cores from Buildbot, which aren't available ATM. My current set is from 06.01.2020 (that's when I've updated to 1.8.2):

So I woudn't recommend using these cores with 1.9.0. I bet somebody has newshit cores on HDD which he/she can upload.

 

[Viata]

Soo, a hacker conveniently deleted part of the code, despite Github allowing you to make multiple copies, and the devs waste no time to bring up their Patreon account? This says enough about them.

They are holding the cores as hostage until people give money to them. It's obvious that it was not a hacker.

 

[lightbane]

Soo, a hacker conveniently deleted part of the code, despite Github allowing you to make multiple copies, and the devs waste no time to bring up their Patreon account? This says enough about them.

They are holding the cores as hostage until people give money to them. It's obvious that it was not a hacker.

Well duh, that was my deduction as well. Is there an alternative to Retroarch? For emulation purposes, I'm only interested in PS1 and PS2 games, and perhaps NDS ones.

 

[flyingjohn]

Soo, a hacker conveniently deleted part of the code, despite Github allowing you to make multiple copies, and the devs waste no time to bring up their Patreon account? This says enough about them.

They are holding the cores as hostage until people give money to them. It's obvious that it was not a hacker.

Well duh, that was my deduction as well. Is there an alternative to Retroarch? For emulation purposes, I'm only interested in PS1 and PS2 games, and perhaps NDS ones.

PS1:
Mednafen. Duckstation if mednafen is too taxing.
PS2:
Pcsx2.
DS:
Melonds and desmume if melonds doesn't work.

All have standalone versions outside retroarch.

 

[spekkio]

Reddit 2 the rescue.

1) Core backups from 25.07.20 & 01.08.20. Thank god for people with aspergers. Android, Loonix & Windows:

Other shit like info files, assets, shaders, cheats are there as well (Support_Files).

https://mega.nz/folder/Js5HCTAD#JMGkwmyDVyv9zGBa_f5hfw/folder/UopnBJBQ

Source

2) Cores 4 Switch:

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1TzPM3o1qi_Lb2IP3jq19tj-GUefcMG9G&export=download

Source

 

[spekkio]

BROs, it looks like some Retroarch-related things have been fixed.

Builtbot is back online:

http://buildbot.libretro.com/nightly/

And some cores are again available via Online Updater:

So you may take off your tinfoil hats.

 

[Viata]

Yeah, sure. A hacker would go out of his way to fuck a git repository of an emulator.

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

Yeah, sure. A hacker would go out of his way to fuck a git repository of an emulator.

Do not underestimate Nintendrones.

 

[Viata]

Sure, Nintendrones. Let's fuck retroarch instead of all those Nintendo console/portable emulators.

 

[flyingjohn]

For anybody wondering about rpcs3 cpu requirements:

There is a entire blog post about cpu,memory and other hardware stuff related to ps3 emulation here:
https://rpcs3.net/blog/2020/08/21/hardware-performance-scaling/

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Sure, Nintendrones. Let's fuck retroarch instead of all those Nintendo console/portable emulators.

Don't underestimate the stupidity of nintendrones.

 

[Puukko]

Latest Yuzu EA has an "unsafe" CPU option that supposedly brings big performance improvements for some games on older CPUs (ie Intel 3000 series) but I haven't tried it out yet as now XC2/XCDE crash on startup for me... Still, that is very good news for me.

 

[Viata]

Sure, Nintendrones. Let's fuck retroarch instead of all those Nintendo console/portable emulators.

Don't underestimate the stupidity of nintendrones.

So stupid to become a hacker? Seems contradictory, mate.

 

[Puukko]

My old stock 3770k handles Drakengard 3 at 25-30 fps - it can't quite stay locked during busier fights, but it is still surprisingly playable. However, some pick ups seem to absolutely tank the fps - all of them cause at least a brief drop, but some caused it to drop to around 3 fps for 10 seconds and one time picking up two items at once just slowed it down to a crawl for about half a minute. This issue seemed to disappear as I got a bit further into the game, so I don't know if it's just specific effects caused by specific items.

I also couldn't get the 60 fps patch working no matter what when I first set up the game some months ago, but I don't know if getting 35-40 fps at times would make that much of a difference anyway.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Latest Yuzu EA has an "unsafe" CPU option that supposedly brings big performance improvements for some games on older CPUs (ie Intel 3000 series) but I haven't tried it out yet as now XC2/XCDE crash on startup for me... Still, that is very good news for me.

Tried it with a i7-9700f. The games that I tried were not particularly demanding and already worked ok at max fps without this option, but with "unsafe" set I noticed a lowering in the power consumption, that is nice. No other issues so far.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

I am trying to play some non-translated japanese games with an online OCR/translator. I looked around for a bit and I found this "Yandex translate" (https://translate.yandex.com/ocr) quite easy to use. You can copy/paste your screen directly in the browser, it automatically identify the texts and, if you click on it, it superimposes the translated text on the original one. The quality of the translation is not good however...

Do you know if there are better tools (preferably online) available?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I am trying to play some non-translated japanese games with an online OCR/translator. I looked around for a bit and I found this "Yandex translate" (https://translate.yandex.com/ocr) quite easy to use. You can copy/paste your screen directly in the browser, it automatically identify the texts and, if you click on it, it superimposes the translated text on the original one. The quality of the translation is not good however...

Do you know if there are better tools (preferably online) available?

1. retroarch AI translation using Z-translate module. by default it will use gogle translate which is garbage for Japanese. But by using Z-transalte anything that is unclear you can copy paste from the ztranslate website to other website like bing (which is better at Japanse than Google) or DeepL

2. Capture2text is quite good as well. Once again by default it uses google translate, but the captured text can be combined with DeepL windows app for a quick way to translate

 

[flyingjohn]

I am trying to play some non-translated japanese games with an online OCR/translator. I looked around for a bit and I found this "Yandex translate" (https://translate.yandex.com/ocr) quite easy to use. You can copy/paste your screen directly in the browser, it automatically identify the texts and, if you click on it, it superimposes the translated text on the original one. The quality of the translation is not good however...

Do you know if there are better tools (preferably online) available?

None.The best current translation tool is deepl.com. But you are gonna have to use ocr tools like capture2text to get text and then paste it into the deepl translator.
Best to learn jap,considering most of the translation just cuts stuff up entirely.That screenshot example is not even right in any way.The closest one is deep with:
"I'm not saying that..,
Lately, we've been getting into some strange business too".

 

[InD_ImaginE]

None.The best current translation tool is deepl.com. But you are gonna have to use ocr tools like capture2text to get text and then paste it into the deepl translator.

note that DeepL translator app for windows has shortcut (pressing Ctrl+C twice instantly paste anything you highlight to DeepL) so it is much much more convenient than using website.

and you can have all of them in windows so no alt-tabbing needed