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abnaxus

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Apparently, Lost Odyssey is fully playable. I followed this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_npC1UD2Ufk&t=251s

The game looks and runs ok, and so far (10h) I haven't had any bugs.

It feels and plays like FFX without the annoying characters and with better writing in general.

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Ahh, the good old days of fanservice...
Is the guaranteed crash at the end of disc 1 fixed?

You needed to mess around with CheatEngine to get past it, but it never worked for me.

https://rainsunflower.wordpress.com/2024/01/01/lost-odyssey-tutorial-on-xenia-canary/
 

ghostdog

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Apparently, Lost Odyssey is fully playable. I followed this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_npC1UD2Ufk&t=251s

The game looks and runs ok, and so far (10h) I haven't had any bugs.

It feels and plays like FFX without the annoying characters and with better writing in general.

af2shKN.png


oA0X8zZ.png


SmYjCf9.png


H5xomCk.png


Ahh, the good old days of fanservice...
Is the guaranteed crash at the end of disc 1 fixed?

You needed to mess around with CheatEngine to get past it, but it never worked for me.

https://rainsunflower.wordpress.com/2024/01/01/lost-odyssey-tutorial-on-xenia-canary/
I'm at disc 2 now. It crashed for me once at the end of disc 1, but when I reloaded I finished it without problems and entered Disc 2.
 

MerchantKing

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Apparently, Lost Odyssey is fully playable. I followed this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_npC1UD2Ufk&t=251s

The game looks and runs ok, and so far (10h) I haven't had any bugs.

It feels and plays like FFX without the annoying characters and with better writing in general.

af2shKN.png


oA0X8zZ.png


SmYjCf9.png


H5xomCk.png


Ahh, the good old days of fanservice...
Is the guaranteed crash at the end of disc 1 fixed?

You needed to mess around with CheatEngine to get past it, but it never worked for me.

https://rainsunflower.wordpress.com/2024/01/01/lost-odyssey-tutorial-on-xenia-canary/
I can't tell if the thong is under the underwear under the skirt or on top of it.
 

Modron

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The thong is over what seems to be a onepiece and under a garter belt which is under chaps. What's so hard to see?
 
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flyingjohn

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I really miss the age of wiki's having detailed issues.
"HEY, THIS GAME HAS AUDIO ISSUES".
Okey, that doesn't sound too bad?
"THERE IS NO AUDIO"
Oh for ffs.

Tried playing arland Totori game on vita3k and rpcs3. The "playable vita" versions sucked ass while the "ingame" ps3 worked fine.
Also,i am amazed how much the Vita sucked ass. Literally being buck broken by a dress the MC is wearing is something else.
 
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Hirato

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The thing with RPCS3' ratings, is what they called "Playable" is what most other emulators would class as "perfect".
Playable in full, from start to end, with no known bugs or crippling performance issues.

Whereas what they deem "Ingame" runs the full gamut of "You can see some interactive polygon soup for 5 seconds before it crashes" to "You can play the whole game, but some parts lag to hell and some optional stuff is bugged/broken."


As for Atelier totori's Audio issues, github mentions a cubeb audio backend
 

Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi

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i would enjoy if someone could share a good place to get all the pokemons, have just a few in different stats of quality when it comes to running
 

flyingjohn

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I have been testing various 7th+ gen emulators. It is all so tiresome.
Rpcs3: Regression the emulator. It is impossible to tell what will they screw up in a week. Having to hunt down random builds in hope the specific game worked as before is tiresome. And this ain't the usual accuracy regressions,they are completely random.
From killzone water to bullets graphics being weird to ratchet games working and the just crashing at random spots, it is not a fun experience. The wiki is practically useless because of the constant regressions.
Vita3k: Development is blitzing along and vulkan being added is great. Problem though, around half of the library is problematic to play.And this is the actual good stuff like demon gaze and future wars. That is not a small problem. If the team can continue at this pace it could become great. But i don't see it since they already added Vulkan and optimized shaer compilations. Maybe in 4 years they will surprise me and jump up the compatibility significantly.
Xenia: Ah, Xenia. Every single issue mentioned above combined in one emulator. There is always gonna be something wrong when emulating on xenia.
Add to this no real compatibility lists minus walls of texts on github. You need the xenia manager though, do not even attempt to emulate without it.
Ryujinx: It can run stuff pretty well and the majority of the library is presumed playable. Here is the problem though, that word presumed.
Pokemon works, minus some features not working. Valkyria chronicles works, minus cutscene problems. Atelier works, minus specific enemies causing slowdowns that won't go away. You see, without a proper compatibility list, it is all just presumed to work until it doesn't. Lightning issues are cute, having a hard crash in a mario game when you are attempting to save is not. Probably the best of the bunch still when it comes to playable games.
Citra: It is pretty good, feels weird saying this. I pissed on this emulator a lot in the past but, now i see how much of the games actually work. Minus specific games not booting the majority of the problems will be in slowdowns. I remember kingdom hearts not booting and now it runs. They also seem to have fixed the issues with devil survivor. And majority of the issues is just underclocking the cpu to some value. Is it perfect, no, but it's above the rest minus ryjujinx.

Special mention to XEMU, the xbox emulator. "Does your emulator have issues with presenting the majority of the library as in game and not perfect or playable?" Well, just change the definition of playable to anything that actually boots. Problem solved." When you list a game a splayable and yet you list over 20+ open issues(including crashes), that game is not playable.
 

spekkio

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Thank god last console with games I cared about was 3DS. Even Switch emus would be mostly pointless if not for fAtlus being retarded about keeping Denuvo in their PC ports.

/closes the hatch of his bunker and goes back to Ogre Battle 64 (1999) / Thief Gold (1999).

Bonus lol: I've spent much more time trying to run Newdark Thief without microstuttering (v-sync + framerate limiter is bad idea, some other options matter too) than running OB64 in Retroarch (3 totally different graphics plugins in Mupen64Plus-Next (the name alone shows how fucked-up the development of N64 emus was)).
 

Baron Dupek

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Ryujinx is back - with autoupdates
https://github.com/GreemDev/Ryujinx/releases
I have been testing various 7th+ gen emulators. It is all so tiresome.
any impression from shadPS4?
I've tried Xenia and RPCS3 and can confirm what you said there.
One worth note here - installing a new innovation of that generation (DLCs) is an hassle at best, but most of the time it's a gamble. That's why there's repack for Tomb Raider Underworld with DLCs ready to play.
Making Gears of War 3 DLCs work is awful too - there was instruction for some 2021 build (which run like hot garbage) but managed to run it on early 2024 build, somehow.
Not such case for Old Hunters for Bloodborne, fortunately it worked. Good luck finding entrance to DLC without guide tho.
Xenia Manager is also a gamble - some games played with less frames and more noticeable stutters. Consuming patches files was weird, but they fixed it in recent version.
Managed to finish both KillZone2, God of War 3 and Resistance 3 with "in game" ratings. KS2 required Discord help with QTE to emulate the PS3 pad tech to rotate objects in games. While Res3 required at least 3 different RPCS3 builds and saves transfering between them to finish. A beauty of pre-1.0 experience, I guess?
 
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flyingjohn

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For anybody wondering, the pcsx2 core,lrps2, gor parallel-gs support. It is a easier option then compiling yourself.Before using it though, go to online updater-core system files downloader- and download lrps2. Without it, most games won't even work properly.
 

soutaiseiriron

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LRPS2 is still like 2 years behind though, isn't it? I tested it a bit and with how cut down the options are in LRPS2 it seems like a waste of time.
 

flyingjohn

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LRPS2 is still like 2 years behind though, isn't it? I tested it a bit and with how cut down the options are in LRPS2 it seems like a waste of time.
Yes and no. Patches are a bitch to implement and other qol features are missing.
But, parallel-gs is going to be defacto way to play pcsx2 in the coming years because of accuracy. Add to this retroarch shader support and you get something that ain't atrocious anymore.
 

soutaiseiriron

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No, I'm pretty sure a lot of other shit like various CPU improvements to fix things like Gran Turismo 4 license tests are still not in LRPS2.
But, parallel-gs is going to be defacto way to play pcsx2 in the coming years because of accuracy
I dunno, performance sucks, some games are buggier than hardware in PCSX2, and it maxes out my GPU in a few. If I add upscaling (or SSAA, since it doesn't appear to do actual upscaling yet) it'll only get worse, so I may as well play with PCSX2 software, which is what parallel-gs is mostly based on anyway.
I don't really see the point in shaders with 6th generation games and beyond. CRT shaders don't work well even at 4k at >480i resolutions, and everything else seems pointless.
 

Just Locus

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A new Switch emulator released, called "Citron" - from their website (Github):
Citron is an innovative Nintendo Switch homebrew emulator designed for ease and accessibility. With a lightweight and cross-platform framework, Citron runs smoothly across various systems, including Linux and FreeBSD, and even on low-power devices like Raspberry Pi.

According to videos like this (which you should watch), Citron is very stable and compiles 'shaders' a lot more quickly, making pauses that would've been more frequent in other emulators take much less time.

Some games have sound issues, and others have minor visual glitches, but the stability is impressive for a 2-day-old emulator and is very promising.
 

flyingjohn

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No, I'm pretty sure a lot of other shit like various CPU improvements to fix things like Gran Turismo 4 license tests are still not in LRPS2.
Other way around. Had that happened to me in pcsx2 a week ago and none of that is during testing with retroarch core.
performance sucks,
Tested zone of enders 2 and gran turismo 4. Cpu never went above 30% while gpu went from 0 to 20 max with the occasional typical amd 99 spike.
Pcsx2 hammered one of the cores and gpu constantly. This is on 5+year old hardware.
If I add upscaling
Don't. The development isn't focused on it and it is buggy.
so I may as well play with PCSX2 software,
Worse performance and it is not a perfect solution to all problems. Parallel offers the possibility of both.
I don't really see the point in shaders with 6th generation games and beyond
Some people like using them, i guess?
 

spekkio

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[When playing OoT, I] will go back to playing the N64 version emulated in the future. The decompilation adds nothing.

Widescreen basically worthless because the pre-rendered backgrounds and Lens of Truth are in 4:3 and Epona keeps galloping while stationary outside of the original aspect ratio in the ending. The cutscenes were composed for 4:3.

Harkinian uses the Gamecube version, in which the Fire Temple theme was replaced because Muslims were apparently offended.

Emulators have no audio hiccups with Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask anymore. There is no benefit in a decompilation.

After some additional TESTING, I have to agree with Ezekiel. Fuck decompilers, mod the fuck out of the rom instead, using Patcher64+. You can use the HD Texture Packs with Mupen64Plus-Next.

1) OoT

Modifications:

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Outcome:

New "save file select" screen:

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New A&B buttons layout, D-Pad menu enabled:

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Fixed "Navi" icon:

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2) MM

Modifications:

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Outcome:

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Baron Dupek

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RPCS3 team dropping big update(s) in 3 days



hope that means we can FINALLY play PS3 exclusives because at this point PS4 remasters/rereleases might be better options sooner or later (ps4 having faster progress)
 

flyingjohn

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I would settle for "STOP BREAKING SHIT EVERY WEEK ELAD".
 

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