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Emulation central - recommendations in 1st post

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by spekkio, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. deuxhero Arcane

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    While I'm not familiar with either game, the fact that it looks like there are only graphical issues (it doesn't crash, physics completely broken ect, sound works perfectly) AND that footage isn't sped up is really impressive.
     
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  2. MotherMachinae Arcane

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    Or opportunity to play Red Dead Redemption instead of overrated GTA. What else? Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom or maybe Mother of All Popamoles - Gears of War.

    PS I know it's naive but...can you run old XboX games on it? Like Ninja Gaiden games?
     
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  3. oddech_wymarlych_swiatow Arcane

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    If you ask in the context of emulation of XB360... good exclusives are too few to bother (Bullet Witch? Ninja Gaiden 2/3?) but there is a plenty of PS60 games worth playing that have not their PC ports so dat Xenia news is HUGE... - NieR, Vanquish, Mortal Kombat vs DC, Dragon's Dogma, Dante's Inferno, Red Dead Redemption, Catherine...
     
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  4. SCO Arcane In My Safe Space

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    Xenia only works (and will only work) on windows because it's a directx wrapper first and foremost so.... yeah. Fuck it.
     
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  5. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Can't you wrap the wrapper? Emulatception.
     
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  6. SCO Arcane In My Safe Space

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    Yeah, i know what you mean. I'm allergic to running emulators in wine. Games in the same architecture are all well and good, but emulators already turn the games they run between 10 and 100 times slower than the native machine.
    And they're much much more sensitive to driver peculiarities too.

    It wouldn't work anyway. I think only vbox would actually work.
     
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  7. oddech_wymarlych_swiatow Arcane

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    Is it even able to run anything beyond homebrew crap?
     
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  8. spekkio Arcane

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    BROs, OP was inclined declined.

    Changes:
    - Switched to the newshit version of EmuGen Wiki.
    - Made Retroarch a default emu for as many platforms as possible (GBA, PCE, PS1, NDS). Retroarch is just better than original emus (sync, gui). Not applied to Yabause and PPSSPP due to their fast development. Still - resistance is futile.
    - Used one link for both official and unofficial builds of Retroarch. Glory to the Buildbot. You will be assimilted.
    - Added info about bSNES-Mercury fork, replaced Snes9x-Next with regular Snes9x as a recommended RA core.
    - Replaced VBA-Next with regular VBA-M as a recommended RA core.
    - Replaced Desmume-future (currently M.I.A.) with regular Desmume as a recommended RA core.
    - Added Compatibility lists for Dolphin & Pcsx2.

    That is all. :obviously:
     
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  9. Siveon Bot

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    Ugh, I can't stand the Retroarch GUI. Keyboard-only and cumbersome interface, ugly text and background, it's terrible. The emulation itself is fine, fantastic even, but there need to be some improvements to the UI, Jesus.

    Maybe I'm just spoiled by Dolphin's and PCSX2's graceful interfaces. Here's hoping somebody makes a better libretro frontend.
     
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  10. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Switch your menu driver to one of the other options and enable mouse.

    :what:
     
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  11. spekkio Arcane

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    IMO it's designed to be operated with a gaypad. Which works fucking fine.

    I think it's made with Overlays in mind. I don't use any, since the default GUI is enough for me.

    Get out.
     
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  12. Siveon Bot

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    Well, I admit I'm just used to PCSX2 (and that it's clunky in it's very own special way). At least the PS1 emulator works for me this time around. Better than nothing.

    How would I do that?
     
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  13. deuxhero Arcane

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    PCSX2 is a pain in the ass to learn, has no remapable hotkeys and has things buried in the most inane sections, but I'd take its GUI over retroarch's garbage any day.
     
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  14. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Menu drivers is under drivers, xmb is a sony look alike, rgui is default, and then there is an opengl version of rgui.

    Mouse enable is under menu settings.

    You may need to turn on advanced settings or something to see these opeions.



    Also, you are both insane with regards to interface design.
     
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  15. deuxhero Arcane

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    Firstly: What system are you using PCSX2/Dolphin on that you find the interface bad and Retroarch superior?

    On a windows desktop:
    In PCSX2 the most common actions (find game on drives, play it) are piss easy, it's the stuff you hopefully won't have to do much (fiddle around with hacks to get a game working) that's buried in a bunch of different menus and that's largely because it's plugin based.
    In Dolphin, PPSSPP, SNES9x, VBA(-M) and DeSmuME everything can be found fairly quick.
    In Retroarch the most common stuff is really annoying and time consuming (go through drives and folders with just a keyboard. Even a fucking text prompt would be quicker). Even your own post just said configuring it a pain in the ass (you have to enable an option to even see all the options? Really?)
     
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  16. Siveon Bot

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    Ah, thanks. It's not really an improvement (I would argue it's quite the opposite), since I'd still have to scroll through long lists and the calibration is always off. But hey, I appreciate the effort.

    I guess there's always phoenix if that ever gets off the ground.
     
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  17. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    PPSSPP has the best interface ever, no argument there.
     
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  18. deuxhero Arcane

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    That it works with mouse, touchscreens and controllers without any real issues for any of them is pretty nifty.
     
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  19. Dreaad Arcane

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    PPSSPP is in general an amazing piece of work, UI included.
     
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  20. spekkio Arcane

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    BROs, how about a nice cup of testing?

    :smug:

    pcsx2-v1.3.1-525-g9316806-windows-x86

    Overall, this build is finally as fast as the last one I've been using (Pcsx2 1.2.1, aka latest official). Previous daily builds have been visibly slower than 1.2.1. This is no longer a case, and some games are even faster than before (same rig since 2012).
    OGL may indeed have some nice new features, but it's way too slow ATM (much slower than DX9 in most games).
    Now, the games..

    1) Shadow Hearts 1

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    Slowdowns in HW mode still present. :(

    2) Shadow Hearts 2

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    Higher internal res still fucks up the GUI (vertical lines). New HW hacks (round sprite / align sprite) don't help here.

    3) SMT - DDS1

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    Aggressive-CRC HW Hack SCO mentioned indeed removes the blurrines. Not really visible in screenshots, but certainly visible in videos.

    4) ICO Platinum

    Default:

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    Aggressive-CRC HW Hack removes the blurry filter:

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    5) Boulder's Gate - Dark Alliance

    HW mode is still borked:

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    You have to patch the emu with the NTCore's 4GB Patch, or it will crash during the initial ingame segment.
    SW mode works fine:

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    6) Burnout 3

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    Looks great, runs at almost full speed (faster rig required).

    7) Wipeout Fusion

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    Looks great, runs at almost full speed (faster rig required).

    8) Valkyrie Profile 2

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    Looks and works great, much faster than before (constant 60 FPS).

    9) Haunted Ground

    Still has graphical bugs in HW mode.

    SW:

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    HW DX9:

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    HW OGL (the new one):

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    10) Silent Hill - 0rigins

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    Looks and works great, much faster than before (constant 60 FPS).

    11) Jak and Daxter

    Graphical glitches in HW are still present:

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    SW:

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    12) Onimusha 1

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    Looks and runs good, but finding proper interlacing method can be a bitch.

    13) Growlanser - Heritage Of War

    Graphical glitches in HW (lines around sprites in non-native internal) are gone, without using any hacks.

    [​IMG]

    :sma:

    SW looks fine as well:

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    14) Silent Hill 2

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    Looks and works fine.

    15) Sly Cooper 1

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    Graphical glitches are gone, game works faster than before, but still a bit slow.

    16) God of Decline 1

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    Looks and works great, much faster than before (constant 60 FPS).

    That is all.

    :obviously:
     
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  21. SCO Arcane In My Safe Space

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    There is not only a CRC hack for nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2 but also a new progressive mode cheat. I don't think it's yet merged to the cheat_ws.zip (and if it is, you have to open it and search for the games ID yourself to uncomment it)
    BUT it does make the games have less aliasing. And the videos look much better without those fucking interlaced shaders.

    You can find them on megaten subreddit or the pcsx2 (closed, because people on the pcsx2 forums are responsible for merging cheats) bug reports
     
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  22. SCO Arcane In My Safe Space

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  23. spekkio Arcane

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    Quick update:

    The new "Round Sprite" hack isn't necessary for some "sprite heavy" games. For example Atelier Iris - Eternal Mana works fine without it:

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    :desu:

    But it's indeed required for others. Ar Tonelico 2 - Melody Of Metafalica default:

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    And with hack enabled:

    [​IMG]

    :desu:
     
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  24. Dreaad Arcane

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    Anything to fix shadows in Front Mission 5?
     
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  25. yes plz Arcane Patron

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    Man, Shadow Hearts is one of those games where anytime I see it I get the itch to replay.

    fucking spekkio
     
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