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The thing I don't get is the whole personal union thingie. The french have been my slaves partners for 50 years now. I have a royal marriage and a 190+ relations with them. But when I use the diplomacy option to integrate them into my Grorius Empire, I get a negative progress modifier and the integration is stuck at 0. The game is being pretty vague about how to boost whatever factors determine integration speed. Which kind of sucks. I was looking forward to the French being part of my empire proper, just like Denmark did to Norway a couple of years earlier.

You should be able to check the tooltip on the quickbar on the right side of the screen. What are your negatives/positives?

That said, you might be better off waiting till you inherit on monarch death. The chance should go up with each successive ruler.
 

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How about a Slavic revival/uprising?
Actually that'd be included among the breakdown for Uralica, Ruthenians (Ukraine) are one of the non-culture and non-religion core areas within Uralica, along with Lithuanians and Khazars. All are their respective Pagan religion (Slavic, Romuva, or Tengri). Obviously they wouldn't be part of the civil war and would depending on Holy War behaviour would receive option to convert to Christianity. I'll still probably tweak the areas a bit better (and relocate default Mordvinia capital to Murom)
 
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The thing I don't get is the whole personal union thingie. The french have been my slaves partners for 50 years now. I have a royal marriage and a 190+ relations with them. But when I use the diplomacy option to integrate them into my Grorius Empire, I get a negative progress modifier and the integration is stuck at 0. The game is being pretty vague about how to boost whatever factors determine integration speed. Which kind of sucks. I was looking forward to the French being part of my empire proper, just like Denmark did to Norway a couple of years earlier.

You should be able to check the tooltip on the quickbar on the right side of the screen. What are your negatives/positives?

That said, you might be better off waiting till you inherit on monarch death. The chance should go up with each successive ruler.
I do remember reading somewhere that they changed it so it was hard/nearly impossible to inherit great power type nations.
 

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Well, is there any other criterias then inhereting Lithuania?

EDIT: Also, not a big fan of these "forced" historical events.
 
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Well, is there any other criterias then inhereting Lithuania?

EDIT: Also, not a big fan of these "forced" historical events.
Meaning what? Like War of the Roses triggering for England and stuff? I would be fine (in fact I would love it) if they added some ahistorical (but plausible) events as well.
 

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Well nothing special about the events per se, but im not overly fond of events that is forced upon you because it's "historical". History went out the window when i started the game.
 

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Also, not a big fan of these "forced" historical events.
In case you're referring to the planned breakdown events for the larger states, it's more like a little something that can occur within a certain time period and if stability and/or legitimacy falls low enough. Currently thinking of 1600-1650 as the "all clear" date.
 

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Well, is there any other criterias then inhereting Lithuania?

EDIT: Also, not a big fan of these "forced" historical events.

You need 3 stability, be in a personal union with Lithuania (done via a decision which makes sense due to how union renewal worked in history), Masovia can't exist (a bit redundant since you need a core on Warsaw) and control and have cores on Warsaw, Marienburg and Danzig. The 3 stability seems like much but moving the capital to Warsaw (which just requires annexing Masovia and coring it) gives 2. The Commonwealth gets cores on all of Poland and Lithuania. I'm guessing the 3 stability was an issue, but quite frankly the AI should go for forming the Commonwealth rather than blobbing like that and falling apart due to lack of cores.

One problem with forming the Commonwealth is that Lithuanian culture may end up not being an accepted culture and ruthenian will be one instead. Modders will need to fix it.

Could be worse though, if you form Italy you only get claims on the rest of Italy which expire 30 or 40 years later. I mean I can understand why just claims but only a for a few decades? At the very least all pasta-eater cultures from the peninsula are accepted so one does not need to dump diplo power to fix that.
 

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Well nothing special about the events per se, but im not overly fond of events that is forced upon you because it's "historical". History went out the window when i started the game.

Some events like the war of the roses make a lot of sense since wheels have been in motion already at the time the game started. Others not so much. Like Poland gets an event about the forming of the first national newspaper that gives 25% (TWENTY FIVE PER CENT) cost reduction for tech for the time of one monarch rule.

While I appreciate the added effort that went into flavor events this is seriously imbalanced.
 

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New game as Aragon, this time I plan to control all trade from the Americas and to bypass and monopolize all trade from Asia. Naples and Algiers are my vassals.

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Interesting things to note:
- The Mameluks were strong, but their manpower was drained. A quick war when they had no armies at all was all it took. Worse, you just have to look at the ledger as a sort of cheat and see who's vulnerable. With Alexandria, the way is open to Asia.
- Just noticed that if you want to core the Berber regions and not incur the huge 200% coring cost increase, wait 50 years for their core to expire. Or just vassalize them, it's incredibly easy. After some quick conquests I feared wars with my neighbors so I let Morocco slip by...
- Avoiding wars as a trading nation is really hard. Though I'm trying to best, my border with Castille puts me at -158 "border tension" modifier, crazy. And that small border with my BFF and ally France? -100 modifier and things are quickly turning sour. I'm not really sure why they're pushing war like this, it's very hard to stay at peace with the same neighbors.
 

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Yea, Border Friction penalty to relations seems absolutely insane.

Well nothing special about the events per se, but im not overly fond of events that is forced upon you because it's "historical". History went out the window when i started the game.

Some events like the war of the roses make a lot of sense since wheels have been in motion already at the time the game started. Others not so much. Like Poland gets an event about the forming of the first national newspaper that gives 25% (TWENTY FIVE PER CENT) cost reduction for tech for the time of one monarch rule.

While I appreciate the added effort that went into flavor events this is seriously imbalanced.
My guess is that they don't assume Poland westernizes so they came up with a stop-gap fix to make them have a chance at catching up a little.
 
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New game as Aragon, this time I plan to control all trade from the Americas and to bypass and monopolize all trade from Asia. Naples and Algiers are my vassals.

Oh man, you didn't take Judea! You get +1 missionaries and a constant prestige bonus when you hold it as a christain or muslim.

Fact of the matter is that if you want someone to like you on a permanent basis, you vassal or PU them. Especially if they are bigger, anyone bigger looks at you for dinner.

Here's the continuation of my England game:

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My Personal Unions are (takes a deep breath): France, Denmark, Pomerania, Poland, Sweden, Austria and Naples. And Tripoli is currently my vassal.

Missed out on getting Portugal in a PU. That stupid event that gives Castille a free PU over Aragon fired even though they were beating Castille's ass, then Castille got their own PU on Portugal. So Iberia is pretty damn well united.

Just about every muslim in the world is in a coalition against me. Which is more of an annoyance than anything else, as you can't demand shit from the minor parties to a coalition war.
 
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Got lucky in my ironman Brandenburg game early on. Austria did something to piss all the electors off, so I got elected Emperor since I was trying to pump Saxony's tires to get them to vassalize and Bohemia hadn't done anything yet. It's 1477 and Brandenburg has like 12 provinces and is the Emperor still, and I have two electors in my pocket (with Bohemia voting for themselves and the other three voting for Austria). Tie goes to the sitting Emperor, right?
 

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Yeah it's a pretty stiff mechanism. You 1 diplomatic point per month for exceeding 5 relations. I'm not sure what ideas or techs boost it but it means you have to diplomatically focus on a few nations.
 

Emily

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Personal unions are bugged. Got like 5 of them atm, even with countries that were more powerful then me.
 

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Personal unions are bugged. Got like 5 of them atm, even with countries that were more powerful then me.

Clearly the game wants everyone to be Philip II.

Might as well post my current game:


I'm Great Britain, with Scottish as the Primary Culture and Norse as my religion. Most of Europe is Norse, save for Animist Poland, Tengrii Hungary and Russia, and Catholic Italy, Aquitaine and Byzantium. I've got the same royal family as Asturias, who are also Scottish, and together we're colonizing the Americas.

Netherlands is my primary enemy, along with Poland. At one point they had a personal union which was horrifying, but thankfully collapsed. Their royal families are still the same though.
 
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