Game News Fallout 3 update

[OccupatedVoid]

Tentacle rape.

Damn Japanese...

 

[Nael]

I heard a rumor from a friend that somehow Obsidian was going to be doing some outsourcing for Bethesda on Fallout. Does this hold any merit at all or is it just hopeful thinking on my friend's part?

The game would never be released. Bethesda would rush the development, and Obsidian would quickly unfinish it and this in turn would cause a chain reaction, keeping the two beasts in check. Brilliant piece of magic, really.

 

[Severian Silk]

I'm in complete and utter *loading...* shock about this. *loading*


really.

that engine is shit.

Be prepared for an influx of lots of new and "special" visitors to DAC when the game is released. I can't wait! [edit] Yes, yes I can.

 

[aries202]

I can understand why Bethesda bought the Fallout license.

Sadism?

As for SPECIAL being implemented (or used) in the game,
the SPECIAL system is a stat/abilities system which can be implemented in any game, either in a first person perspective game or a third person isometric game.

*maybe*; but I'm wondering were the fuck will they put "action points" or "sequence" in a RT FPS...

but I do think that you need to realize
that of course Bethesda is going to take advantage of
the technological processes which has been made
in the last 10 years.

Because Bethsoft has a long tradition in INNOVASHUN and shit and know well how to take advantage in new technologies...
*rolleyes*

I just meant that Bethesda probably bought the Fallout license because they thougt that Fallout was a pretty cool game. Personally, however, I would rather that Bioware had bought the Fallout license, but for some reason, they didn't.

It's been a while since I played the Fallout series of game,
but my guess is that you're talking about the A(ction)
letter(s) being used in the S-P-E-C-I-A-L . And that the action points, you had in Fallout (I think it was 8? or so in a round) is hard to implement in realtime combat ??

I don't if this is true or not, but maybe Bethesda are considering another whatever ?? Afaik, A in SPECIAL stands for 'agility' not action.

As for your last comment, I couldn't help laugh a little
inside since I loathe this word 'innovashun'!! Nobody really seems to know what this word means except that everyone somehow agrees that it has to be a very good thing.

I just meant that in the 10 years since the Fall out series first were released there have been many technological advances in the society. Some of these tech advances obviously took place in the gaming industry. These tech advances means that it is a totally different matter making games now than it were say 5 or even 10 years ago.

The tech advances being developed in the last 10 years within game making can make the characters in the game do things they couldn't 10 years ago. It would be foolish of Bethesdan not to use these tech advances when they are creating their games, including Fallout 3. (or as I like to call it: The new Fallout game, since it obviously, in various, aspects, will be differently from the first 2 Fallout games).

 

[Voss]

commas, out, of, control.

 

[z3r'0']

the SPECIAL system is a stat/abilities system which can be implemented in any game

It is a turn-based system... and afaik Bethesda has never released a TB game. Adapting it to RT/FP is FUBAR.

What are the chances that Beth implement SPECIAL in name only? E.g: No APs, no initiative etc., just some option
that means jack-shit and is merely pandering window-dressing?

Fuck that.

 

[Bradylama]

I just meant that Bethesda probably bought the Fallout license because they thougt that Fallout was a pretty cool game.

Which is impossible, because if they expressed from the beginning that they didn't want to make a game like the Fallouts, it isn't the reason they bought the license.

It's been a while since I played the Fallout series of game,
but my guess is that you're talking about the A(ction)
letter(s) being used in the S-P-E-C-I-A-L . And that the action points, you had in Fallout (I think it was 8? or so in a round) is hard to implement in realtime combat ??

How many Action Points you had was dependent upon your Agility value. I'm sure that for real-time they'll just make Agility like the speed stat, and all other actions like accuracy and firing rate are dependent on player input.

I don't if this is true or not, but maybe Bethesda are considering another whatever ?? Afaik, A in SPECIAL stands for 'agility' not action.

The A does stand for Agility.

I just meant that in the 10 years since the Fall out series first were released there have been many technological advances in the society. Some of these tech advances obviously took place in the gaming industry. These tech advances means that it is a totally different matter making games now than it were say 5 or even 10 years ago.

i.e., it's more expensive.

The "tech advances" didn't allow for Bethesda's approach in The Elder Scrolls to implement intelligent or even independent follower NPCs. At the best, you can have destructible environments, but other than that, there's no appreciable difference that technological advances would have on the roleplaying element, which is really what the game is all about. Roleplaying. Why we talk about it so much on a roleplaying forum.

Ah yes, and destructible environments aren't a feature of Bethesda's engine. It may be you can't even blow open doors.

 

[Krafter]

Briosafreak posted this link at NMA:
http://ve3dboards.ign.com/role_playing/ ... 6008386/p1

Yeah, I saw that before, it's pretty bad. These are the people Bethesda is making the game for, not us. We are 'outdated.'

Funny thing is, if you were to turn things around, the kiddies would be just as 'rabid' as the Fallout fans. Imagine turn-based, built for the PC as it's primary platform Gears of War 2? Yeah, they'd be open minded on that one, for sure!

Fallout 3 will be a train wreck and kill small kittens and orphans wherever it goes. It will also win 'Best RPG of 2007 (or 2008)!' from IGN, Gamespot, whomever. Heh.

 

[Gwendo]

Fallout Tactics used SPECIAL and could be played in Real Time (although I hate RT games, so I played it in classical turn-based mode).

But the point is not how they will implement SPECIAL. I don't care if SPECIAL will be implemented at all! If the game is going to be in real time, there's no need for SPECIAL.

What made Fallot special, to me, was the setting, the story, the choices. I lke turn-based combat, but that's not the meat of the game. If Bethesda can give me that, I will be happy to wander around in real time.

The problem is that Bethesda will screw it up. It's written in the stars. They disaponted me with Morrowind and Oblivion. I feel like a fool, with this hope that with Fallout 3 it will be different. Like those housewives who are spanked by their husbands, but will forgive him anyway and receive another beating.

 

[One Wolf]

for me, the SPECIAL system was a huge draw in fallout. i first played it after finding the box interesting when i was about 11 years old. i played a bit, but had insufficient patience to get far. it wasn't until years later that i played it again (incidentally after finding this site and realizing that i still had my copies of FO1 and 2).

the turnbased combat is a big part of what makes combat enjoyable in the fallouts (for me). FO was the first turnbased game i'd ever played outside of FF games (phasebased, i know, but similar at least). the TB combat made stats relevant in a way i never realized they could be. i never played with less than 10 agility (9+ small frame). nothing like 3 called shots a round with the red rider LE bb gun. TB made it possible for me to step out into a corridor, cripple a leg on an approaching mutant, blind a sniper, and duck back behind cover at the end of my turn. i can't see how RT combat would ever work in FO3, but i may be suffering from lack of imagination.

anyway, its exceedingly likely that any discussion on "how it will work out" is irrelevant. bethesda has no motivation to make a throwback post-apoc M for mature game after their success with OB. the FO world is just too grim and the writing too skillful for them to emulate even if they wished to recreate it, and money talks.

 

[Bradylama]

It can only work if Fallout 3 was first-person and relied on player skills for combat resolution. It essentially makes several elements of Special pointless.

 

[zioburosky13]

A producer's word...

 

[Surgey]

Since Fallout is in the desert, they're going to have to modify the Bloom meter to go over 500% for F3; that's the "modified" part of the Oblivion engine they're talking about. I mean, it IS radioactive and bright, so bloom makes total sense!

 

[Bradylama]

Word on the street is the game'll just take place in a city.

 

[St. Toxic]

Tamriel?

 

[The Public Enemy]

Prepare for the experience that will CHANGE YOUR LIFE

Prepare for FALLOUT 3!!

Holy shit mutants!!

Every choice matters!!

Guns!!

Create ANY CHARACTER YOU WANT!!

Intelligence is for psychic powers!! Fireballs!!

Save the world!!

Before it's destroyed AGAIN!!!

Mudcrabs!!!

DECEMBER 2008

BOOM BOOM POW POW CRASH KABOOM

AWESOME!!! LOVE PEnIS

 

[Bradylama]

War. War never changes.

BUT THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON FALLOUT WILL!

 

[Stalagmite]

Word on the street is the game'll just take place in a city.

GTA: Boneyard

 

[Cthulhugoat]

Junktown's Gate: Steel Alliance.

 

[zioburosky13]

Fallout Alliance: Radioactive land.

 

[Bradylama]

Fallout Radioactive Junktown Boneyard Alliance Steel Gate: GTA

 

[Ladonna]

Don't sully the name of GTA by putting Bethesda next to it :evil:

 

[kingcomrade]

Fallout: The Reimagining
Award winning<tm> producers Bethesda(c)<tm>(r) who produced the critically acclaimed<tm> shitpile Oblivion<tm>(c)(r)<tm>, take the original Fallout (which was produced in the age of limited bloom) and tell the story...the way it was always meant to be. Also, all the deathclaws now have tits.

 

[Higher Game]

You guys are on the right track. There's no way they could get away with making their game called Fallout 3. They will call it something else because it will be so different from what the original Fallout games were. I KNEW that Deus Ex: Invisible War was going to suck the second I saw that it wouldn't be Deus Ex 2. Same with Thief: Deadly Shadows not being called Thief 3. Then there were the "Dark Alliance" games that had absolutely nothing to do with Baldur's Gate.

Anything with a new subtitle or going away from the number system is going to be bad. It's just a rule.

 

[St. Toxic]

"Sometimes, war does change."

Called it 2005, at 1/5. I'd say it's 1/3 around now.