What happened to Bethesda after morrowind, by the way?

The rest can be attributed to consolization and pandering to an audience of mouthbreathers.
What happened to Bethesda after morrowind, by the way?
Also, I think the best thing anybody can do to the FO universe at this point is drop another few nukes on it. Send everyone back to pistols and spears. It was way more interesting back then.
That said, I really like NV's (and Fallout 2's) post-post-apocalyptic world. The power play among the various factions, the rebuilt-but-not-quite-pre-war cities, the scars of the war still visible under the new attempts at civilization, stuff like that.
Yeah, this is what I really love about the setting. I hope they introduce more of that on the East coast, assuming they stick to that side of the country.
Also, I think the best thing anybody can do to the FO universe at this point is drop another few nukes on it. Send everyone back to pistols and spears. It was way more interesting back then.
Also, I think the best thing anybody can do to the FO universe at this point is drop another few nukes on it. Send everyone back to pistols and spears. It was way more interesting back then.
Wasn't Avellone in favour of this as well? Particularly dropping a nuke on San Francisco?
The rest can be attributed to consolization and pandering to an audience of mouthbreathers.
So...I finished the Tenpenny Tower quest for the first time *spoilers obviously*
I'm a first time player here and I've been enjoying the game thoroughly. But damn that Tenpenny quest really had an effect on me. I've been playing as this angelic heroic character who helps everyone yadda yadda yadda so of course I chose the nonviolent solution where the ghouls and residents come to an agreement but low and behold after doing a few other quests and coming back to the tower for a visit I see no humans whatsoever. I run up to ask Roy what the hell happened and he nonchalantly explained that him and his group massacred everyone.
I would have been like "whatever" if the residents had still been dicks about the ghouls (excluding those few that left and the one upstairs) but no most of them were welcoming and stuff. But the thing that drove me over the edge was realizing that Dashwood wasnt spared in the massacre and seeing his body piled with all the others.
After this I then calmly took out my sniper rifle and headed upstairs to shoot Roy and whoever else was up there with him. Then I returned to the lobby and took out every ghoul I could find then I stripped all of them and piled all their bodies in the mens bathroom. Sort of mimicking what they did to the Tenpenny residents. And I gotta say killing everyone and dragging all of their bodies to the bathroom while that cheery music was playing is something I'll never forget.
Also I like to think this is my "Good" characters own little mental breakdown which is pretty cool from a role-playing perspective. God only knows if she'll tough it out and return to being the Wasteland saviour she once was or go down a rogue path because goddamn being bad felt so good...in this scenerio at least.
Yeah. I really did not like how despite finding a peaceful solution for that quest,Roy still went ahead and killed everyone. That defeats the purpose of a peaceful solution in the first place :/
Always hated this.
Yeah, I mean ol' Caesar conquered 86 tribes in Utah, Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico quite recently (between 10 and 34 years before FO:NV) suggesting that the place was pretty primitive compared to the civilization in California (the NCR was founded 95 years before FO:NV).That's retarded. Just set the next game(s) on regions that have been completely devastated, the US is big enough that they don't have to reboot the whole setting just so they can use the same are again.
In the Fallout universe, it looks like the bullet missed Kennedy and Amerikwa never went on to elect a former teen manwhore from Kenya. The Fallout universe diverges from ours in the year I was born, 1963 when they shot Kennedy. Our reality entered a phase of tremendous decline as the other America in that alternate universe went from strength to strength on a trajectory of massive incline right up to the time the bombs dropped. In our masturbation universe the technology was never used for much more than expediting porn distribution but in the Fallout universe they developed slow-decay batteries (softdrink machines run centuries on a single cell), thorium generators as big as a lawnmower, robots with biological brains for AI and a million other wonders.
In the Fallout universe, it looks like the bullet missed Kennedy and Amerikwa never went on to elect a former teen manwhore from Kenya. The Fallout universe diverges from ours in the year I was born, 1963 when they shot Kennedy. Our reality entered a phase of tremendous decline as the other America in that alternate universe went from strength to strength on a trajectory of massive incline right up to the time the bombs dropped. In our masturbation universe the technology was never used for much more than expediting porn distribution but in the Fallout universe they developed slow-decay batteries (softdrink machines run centuries on a single cell), thorium generators as big as a lawnmower, robots with biological brains for AI and a million other wonders.
And in the end, everything of Kwa is fucked up by the Chinese. Just as in our reality.
That's it. We hate it so much that we need tons of pages to throw shit on it (metaphorically)."I thought the codex hated Fallout 3?"
The Tenpenny Tower quest is good in spirit and I appreciate that things take an unexpected turn, but their handling of it was pretty retarded in all fairness. Especially since you get bad karma for killing the asshole who just masscacred the entire tower.
The Tenpenny Tower quest is good in spirit and I appreciate that things take an unexpected turn, but their handling of it was pretty retarded in all fairness. Especially since you get bad karma for killing the asshole who just masscacred the entire tower.
The Tenpenny Tower quest is get go instruction of "how to write shitty derp quests".
I mean dude is fucking sitting there all day long and he wait just for you so he can blow up whole town and why they want to blow up whole town ? Because DEEEEEEERP.
But that is only natural for Betsheda quest design. I mean it is same game in which you activate big jattaman of doom to help you in quest...
The Tenpenny Tower quest is good in spirit and I appreciate that things take an unexpected turn, but their handling of it was pretty retarded in all fairness. Especially since you get bad karma for killing the asshole who just masscacred the entire tower.
The Tenpenny Tower quest is get go instruction of "how to write shitty derp quests".
I mean dude is fucking sitting there all day long and he wait just for you so he can blow up whole town and why they want to blow up whole town ? Because DEEEEEEERP.
But that is only natural for Betsheda quest design. I mean it is same game in which you activate big jattaman of doom to help you in quest...
As said above, we're talking about the quest where that ghoul guy wants to move his dudes into the tower. The nuke quest was completely abysmal, I think everyone agrees with you on that.
This. I remember closely following the development of F3, getting progressively more disillusioned and finally horrified at the direction the game was headed. I stopped reading official forums, stayed put at the 'dex and NMA instead. When it came out I wouldn't play it for about a month, when I was finally swayed by a friend and felt it *might* be fun to romp around the wasteland with a hunting rifle slung over my shoulder. Boy, was I wrong. That fucking atrocity of a game slapped you with stupid every single step of the way. EVERYTHING in it was beyond fucking retarded. EVERYTHING. After finishing (god god god god that finale) and uninstalling that abomination, I was livid. I daydreamed about running into Todd irl, pretending to be a fan then socking him with a hard right straight in the kisser.I think it's the other way around - the fact most users like NV even after being traumatized by FO3 shows they'd like it anyway.
It's okay, bro. We're here for you.
You got very far, I didn't even managed that. The whole beginning was beyond retarded but my aneurysm exploded with Megaton, just read a codex playthrough and there are worse stuff later . Honestly, I hate David Gayder, David Cage and other hacks that pass as writers but Emil Pagliarulo will win the contest for the dumbest fat ass that tried writing on a video game. Dear Lord, the writing was full of retardness. I don't think a normal human being can write in the way he writes even if he tried. What I think is sad is how most people in Bethesda forums don't even have the low intellectual horsepower required to realize how total crap the writing was.This. I remember closely following the development of F3, getting progressively more disillusioned and finally horrified at the direction the game was headed. I stopped reading official forums, stayed put at the 'dex and NMA instead. When it came out I wouldn't play it for about a month, when I was finally swayed by a friend and felt it *might* be fun to romp around the wasteland with a hunting rifle slung over my shoulder. Boy, was I wrong. That fucking atrocity of a game slapped you with stupid every single step of the way. EVERYTHING in it was beyond fucking retarded. EVERYTHING. After finishing (god god god god that finale) and uninstalling that abomination, I was livid. I daydreamed about running into Todd irl, pretending to be a fan then socking him with a hard right straight in the kisser.I think it's the other way around - the fact most users like NV even after being traumatized by FO3 shows they'd like it anyway.
Then comes along FNV. I delay playing it for the longest of times. It looks to much like F3, you see. I can't handle any more of that bad taste in my mouth. Then I finally get it and, lo and behold, the bad taste was washed out. I did not think it possible, frankly, but it was. That alone makes that game more than worthwhile.
Fuck all you nitpickers very much.
You got very far, I didn't even managed that. The whole beginning was beyond retarded but my aneurysm exploded with Megaton, just read a codex playthrough and there are worse stuff later . Honestly, I hate David Gayder, David Cage and other hacks that pass as writers but Emil Pagliarulo will win the contest for the dumbest fat ass that tried writing on a video game. Dear Lord, the writing was full of retardness. I don't think a normal human being can write in the way he writes even if he tried. What I think is sad is how most people in Bethesda forums don't even have the low intellectual horsepower required to realize how total crap the writing was.
You got very far, I didn't even managed that. The whole beginning was beyond retarded but my aneurysm exploded with Megaton, just read a codex playthrough and there are worse stuff later . Honestly, I hate David Gayder, David Cage and other hacks that pass as writers but Emil Pagliarulo will win the contest for the dumbest fat ass that tried writing on a video game. Dear Lord, the writing was full of retardness. I don't think a normal human being can write in the way he writes even if he tried. What I think is sad is how most people in Bethesda forums don't even have the low intellectual horsepower required to realize how total crap the writing was.