Fallout 4 Pre-Announcement Bullshit Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Stereotypical Villain]

You are the one from my dreams, the alpha and the omega... the beginning and the end... Radborn with the power of rads! Go destroy the 3nclav3 before they poison God-Empress Tandi!

Insert dubstep trailer here.

 

[Farage]

There's also the possibility of an Obsidian spin-off.

Assuming people do learn from mistakes, i don't see why not.
New Vegas actually sold just as much as Fallout 3 did since its release... so its something, i guess.

 

[tuluse]

Assuming people do learn from mistakes, i don't see why not.
New Vegas actually sold just as much as Fallout 3 did since its release... so its something, i guess.

You're under the impression Bethesda believes they are making mistakes. I think 20 million copies of Skyrim sold would lead them to conclude they are not.

 

[Broseph]

Bethesda takes feedback from their fans but they frequently listen to the most retarded members of their fanbase. This is how Oblivion happened. As long as they continue to do that every game they make will be two steps forward, three steps back and "good for what it is" at best. If Fallout 4 doesn't rape the lore as much as 3 did it could potentially be a decent game, even a good one with mods, but they'll never make a truly great Fallout game unless they hire some writers who can write above a 3rd grade level.

 

[Delicieuxz]

Bethesda sucks. Nice environment design, bad Todd Howard design.

Also, their writing sucks more than anyone's, as said, and their voice acting is pits.

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[imweasel]

20 million sold copies of Skyrim and 10 million sold copies of Fallout 3 is solid proof that dysgenesis is real and not a myth.

 

[AngryKobold]

20 million sold copies of Skyrim and 10 million sold copies of Fallout 3 is solid proof that modern players as customers are easily amused dimwits with no standards whatsoever.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Fallout 3 isn't the worst game when you don't compare it to 1 & 2.

It does get some things right.

 

[shihonage]

Fallout 3 isn't the worst game when you don't compare it to 1 & 2.

It does get some things right.

An ironic statement, considering that the only things it "gets right" (i.e. merely screws them up by 60%-80%) are lifted directly from previous Fallouts.

Fallout 3 is a horrible game with not a single spark of inspiration, imagination, original thought, writing, skillful UI or world design... nothing. It's a heap of trash. It's the videogame equivalent of the movie "Ass" from Idiocracy, and an uncomfortable look at the profound blandness of Todd Howard's inner world.

 

[Rake]

Fallout 3 isn't the worst game when you compare it only to Oblivion.

It does get some things right.

Fixed.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

When I first walked out of Vault 101, I was pretty much floored with how the landscape looked. It's when you walk into Megaton and find that unexploded bomb, or when an NPC says something that you really realise something's fundamentally fucked with that game.

Obsidian showed that the raw materials for a great game existed in Fallout 3.

 

[Xeon]

I kinda agree with Curious Tongue, Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played so I had no knowledge about the lore or anything like that.

Since I enjoyed Skyrim I played Fallout 3 because it was made by the same devs and it had some derpy moments but it wasn't a bad game. I hated some of the things like the group of kids for example but I still kinda enjoyed it and went to play FNV and loved it and then played F1 and F2 and really loved F2.

 

[Hobz]

Obsidian showed that the raw materials for a great game existed in Fallout 3.

What is this "raw material" exactly ? The worst aspects of New Vegas are those inherited from F3 : The fugly graphics, poor animations and the combat system.

 

[Lemming42]

Fallout 3 is a horrible game with not a single spark of inspiration, imagination, original thought, writing, skillful UI or world design... nothing. It's a heap of trash. It's the videogame equivalent of the movie "Ass" from Idiocracy, and an uncomfortable look at the profound blandness of Todd Howard's inner world.

Not an entirely fair statement. There's a lot of inspiration and imagination in the game, it just turns to shit somewhere in the transition from Todd's mind to the actual game.

Needless to say they basically abandoned the Fallout setting and created their own new weird setting with stuff ripped from Fallout 1/2, but their setting does have a lot of imagination. The whole retro-futuristic, ultra-patriotic pre-war America was really well conveyed by some of the ruins and posters you could find, and the 50s B-movie feel worked pretty well.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Obsidian showed that the raw materials for a great game existed in Fallout 3.

What is this "raw material" exactly ? The worst aspects of New Vegas are those inherited from F3 : The fugly graphics, poor animations and the combat system.

You can't have a conversation with FNV detractors, so we have nothing to talk about.

 

[shihonage]

Fallout 3 is a horrible game with not a single spark of inspiration, imagination, original thought, writing, skillful UI or world design... nothing. It's a heap of trash. It's the videogame equivalent of the movie "Ass" from Idiocracy, and an uncomfortable look at the profound blandness of Todd Howard's inner world.

Not an entirely fair statement. There's a lot of inspiration and imagination in the game, it just turns to shit somewhere in the transition from Todd's mind to the actual game.

Needless to say they basically abandoned the Fallout setting and created their own new weird setting with stuff ripped from Fallout 1/2, but their setting does have a lot of imagination. The whole retro-futuristic, ultra-patriotic pre-war America was really well conveyed by some of the ruins and posters you could find, and the 50s B-movie feel worked pretty well.

It's not "their own new" setting, it's the Fallout 1 setting. The whole of Fallout 3 is devoid of creative thought. Anything thats even remotely non-retarded in F3 is lifted from F1.

 

[Lemming42]

It's not "their own new" setting, it's the Fallout 1 setting. The whole of Fallout 3 is devoid of creative thought. Anything thats even remotely non-retarded in F3 is lifted from F1.

But the majority of it is deeply retarded, which is why I can't bring myself to consider it as the Fallout setting.

I know the retro-futurism and 50s sci fi were both significant in Fallout 1, but Fallout 3 pushes it to a ridiculous extreme. I don't remember people in Fallout 1 wearing 50s sundresses and saying "GOLLY GEE WHIZ" all the time and acting like the war happened yesterday.

 

[shihonage]

Thanks for making my point.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

I'm not saying Fallout 3 isn't awful, it just had moments when I forgot about how shit the game was overall and enjoyed the visuals and/or the atmosphere of a certain location.

 

[Lemming42]

Thanks for making my point.

Perhaps instead of saying "their own new setting" I should have said "their spin on the setting". It's just that "their spin on it" makes it sound too positive when as we know a lot of Fallout 3's setting was hideously negative and lore-rapey.

You originally said that the game didn't have any inspiration or imagination, but I think they did put a lot of effort into bastardizing the Fallout setting. The example of them pushing the 50s thing to the limit was just the first thing that sprung to mind.

 

[Menckenstein]

Obsidian showed that the raw materials for a great game existed in Fallout 3.

What is this "raw material" exactly ? The worst aspects of New Vegas are those inherited from F3 : The fugly graphics, poor animations and the combat system.

You can't have a conversation with FNV detractors, so we have nothing to talk about.

Go back to RPGWatch.

 

[skyst]

It's not "their own new" setting, it's the Fallout 1 setting. The whole of Fallout 3 is devoid of creative thought. Anything thats even remotely non-retarded in F3 is lifted from F1.

people... wearing 50s sundresses and saying "GOLLY GEE WHIZ" all the time and acting like the war happened yesterday.

This was the major obstacle for me with F3. Forget the FPS, UI, writing, vo, etc, etc. This shit was full

 

[Ninjerk]

How about 200 year old NUKED wooden structures everywhere

 

[Lemming42]

Containing edible food.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Obsidian showed that the raw materials for a great game existed in Fallout 3.

What is this "raw material" exactly ? The worst aspects of New Vegas are those inherited from F3 : The fugly graphics, poor animations and the combat system.

You can't have a conversation with FNV detractors, so we have nothing to talk about.

But he's right, FNV was a great game despite it's base, not because of it. If you think otherwise then why don't you lay out what FO3 contributed to NV's quality?
The only thing that I can think of is that using recycled assets let them spend their budget on more important things, but that doesn't really mean much.