Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Metro]

Obsidian without MCA = shell.

 

[Tzaero]

Obsidian have a good grasp of what makes Fallout, Fallout.

Yeah nothing says Fallout like guys running around in football uniforms larping Romans.

Had Bethesda not furthered the 50s wackiness in F3, we probably would've got the corporate slavers instead.

 

[Diablo169]

Even if Obsidian get another shot, it's still going to involve dialogue wheels and no MCA. There's limits to what even Feargus can fix.

 

[Maldoror]

Obsidian have a good grasp of what makes Fallout, Fallout.

Yeah nothing says Fallout like guys running around in football uniforms larping Romans.

Poor attempt at sarcasm - philosophical and social commentary with an underlying tinge of humour has always been present in Fallout. Caesar's Legion are philosophically inspired, imbued and flawed (see: Caesar's misinterpretation of Roman culture only held together by sheer force of will and Hegelian Dialectics) but the football gear only serves to enhance it.
The game takes itself seriously while also retaining a sense of self-awareness. It's not just goofball nonsense, it's fitting.

 

[Dreaad]

... Did this thread really just jump 3 pages in 10 seconds... Fuck this I'm out.

 

[Makabb]

... Did this thread really just jump 3 pages in 10 seconds..

 

[Veelq]

So they made what mods normally do ( customization for everything, housing, shit to do when you are bored ) and left what is really important ( story, quests, npcs ) to modders, i see how it is now Todd.

Well its another "Mods will fix it" game, heh

 

[Makabb]

So they made what mods normally do ( customization for everything, housing, shit to do when you are bored ) and left what is really important ( story, quests, npcs ) to modders, i see how it is now Todd.

 

[Ulminati]

You forgot the best part of the presentation

 

[Mastermind]

Obsidian have a good grasp of what makes Fallout, Fallout.

Yeah nothing says Fallout like guys running around in football uniforms larping Romans.

Poor attempt at sarcasm - philosophical and social commentary with an underlying tinge of humour has always been present in Fallout. Caesar's Legion are philosophically inspired, imbued and flawed (see: Caesar's misinterpretation of Roman culture only held together by sheer force of will and Hegelian Dialectics) but the football gear only serves to enhance it.

Yeah and so is the Nuka Cola chick and the guy who lives next to her. They embody a facet of the human condition that explores mating rituals and gender relations, while humorously poking fun at what guys will do to get laid.

The old lady with the violin explores themes of loneliness and the abandonment of the elderly.

Megaton embodies human resilience and the innate need for spiritual development, and making unfunny nuke related puns while worshiping a nuke dud.

Just kidding, it's retarded. So are Romans in football suits, supermutants in dresses and holographic ghosts, it's just that Bethesda made one and Obsidian made the other. What would be shit in the hands of Toddler becomes a gourment meal in the hands of Fagellone to some of the cultists that reside here.

Fallout's humor was subtle and subdued. Fallout 3's was retarded hipster edginess. Fallout NV goes even further and insults the player's intelligence with obviously retarded stuff that is meant to be taken seriously. Moira and the Church of the Atom are at least obvious jokes which, while hamfisted and unfunny, are still portrayed jokes. Caesar's Legion is actually a serious faction and NV expects you to take it seriously.

 

[Trip]

Fallout's humor was subtle and subdued.

Care to give an example? (I assume you mean F1, which I haven't played in a very long while, hence the question.)
F2 had the same sort of humor you're describing as retarded, the way I remember it.

 

[Irxy]

Btw, is it safe to assume house interiors are not going to be separate locations this time?

 

[Mastermind]

Care to give an example? (I assume you mean F1, which I haven't played in a very long while, hence the question.)

No, I haven't played it in ages and don't remember a single line of dialogue. I don't remember finding any LOL THIS IS FUNNY stupid joke screaming out at me in it though, which is the most I can ask from a game that wants me to take their writing seriously.

F2 had the same sort of humor you're describing as retarded, the way I remember it.

It did. It was also shit and the only Fallout I never finished (or really played all that much). I probably shouldn't be bashing a game I haven't played for any serious length and which I mostly know from second hand sources but fuck, it's the codex, posting uninformed opinions is practically a requirement.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Mastermind seems to be very edgy about this issue.

 

[dbx]

Btw, is it safe to assume house interiors are not going to be separate locations this time?

It's skyrimjob engine with prettier shaders. Interiors are bound to be separate locations.

 

[Volrath]

Jaesun Put your money where your mouth is, put this thread in retardo land.

 

[Crooked Bee]

Looks the same as Fallout 3, except with gun's, dialogue wheel, and housing.

 

[Mastermind]

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1520920-guns-guns-guns/

"Like the rest of the audience I was acutally blown away by that double bladed baseball bat."

 

[Makabb]

Jaesun Put your money where your mouth is, put this thread in retardo land.

but this is the best thread on this forum

 

[Morgoth]

I was kinda hoping Todd "No skills allowed" Howard was ruining my D1P urges.

 

[Mastermind]

Looks the same as Fallout 3, except with gun's, dialogue wheel, and housing.

Pretty sure Fallout 3 had guns.

 

[Makabb]

I was kinda hoping Todd "No skills allowed" Howard was ruining my D1P urges.

You know it's a d1p full price worthy game.

 

[Crooked Bee]

Looks the same as Fallout 3, except with gun's, dialogue wheel, and housing.

Pretty sure Fallout 3 had guns.

gun's, not guns

 

[Infinitron]

It had some guns. But then FO:NV introduced massive Counterstrike-esque gun porn with weapon modding and shit. Of all the things that FO:NV did, that was obviously the one that they had to match!

EDIT: That too.

 

[Makabb]

They will match New Vegas writing.