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Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

Silverfish

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I agree in principle, but still get hung up on the amount of time that's passed. I'd have no issue if the games were set twentysomething years after the bombs, but 200 is just too much of a leap to still have Mad Max stuff. I don't think the setting makes all that much sense even in the original games, so Beth's theme park nonsense, so long as it's marginally entertaining, doesn't butt against my sensibilities the way it does for others. Granted, I don't have an in-built love for the classic Fallouts, since I didn't grow up with them and wasn't exposed to the series until F3 anyway, so my perspective is skewed.
 

Late Bloomer

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Don Peste The information shows Fallout 4 (bethesda 2015) is beating Starfield (bethesda 2023) in concurrent player count just a few months after Starfield released.
 

Gargaune

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Are they doing the Skyrim re-release thing, but with Fallout 4 now? That would be really low.
Nah, it's worse. Skyrim SE released as a separate product, free for prior owners, this is gonna be a straight patch, like they just did with Skyrim last week. It's most likely gonna break the mod scene in exchange for a handful of minor bugfixes, "performance upgrades" (as if a 2015 game needs an FPS boost on current hardware) and, most importantly, the Creation Club overhaul. It's time for Horse Power Armour Armour!
 
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Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas? I can get Bethesda putting Skyrim on everything, it was by a wide margin the best selling game they ever made. But Fallout 4 sales are pretty similar to Fallout 3. I’d also think some better looking (with better combat mechanics) updated version of Fallout 3 would generate more hype among their fan base than a updated version of their 2015 game.

Bethesda really is run by moron, which is probably why they needed to sell themselves off to Microsoft despite the money their games make. With the amount of time they knew they’d have between single player Fallout games, (it’ll be around 2030 when Fallout 6 comes out I’m sure) it makes it seem even stupider they didn’t have Avalanche Studios (with id Software) making some Fallout spinoff game in the Apex engine that allowed players to play some big open world Fallout with vehicles in it instead of Rage 2. An Avalanche Fallout could’ve sold Fallout number, maybe like 10 million, probably more; but Rage 2 I think sold less than a few million.
 
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avalanche makes AA games, not that it can't look better than AAA:



Bethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.

But I’m not really sure of what your point is. Bethesda already hired them in the past. The point was they’re so stupid they had them make a sequel to a post-apocalyptic franchise they own that nobody really knows or cares about instead of making some spin-off title to the post-apocalyptic franchise they own that sales something around 12 and 13 million copies per game. And with how Starfield development went, and with Elder Scrolls 6 being their next title after that, (when is that coming, like 2026/2027?) they probably should’ve been planning for some new single player Fallout game (or games) to come out during the time between 2015 and 2031/2032 (maybe 2030) when Fallout 6 is coming out. Business wise Bethesda is spending a stupid amount of time between titles, especially when they’re the two franchises that support the whole company. It just doesn’t even make any fucking sense. It’s not like they’re in some kind of Rockstar situation where they can sit back in rack in Rockstar levels of GTA Online money, but for some reason Bethesda Game Studios has shifted to a Rockstar timetable when it comes to game releases.
 

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TES is the only franchise they haven't completely fucked up yet

Yah because nuBethesda hasn't actually made a TES game yet. They are going push out yet another stinky turd and everyone will say it's a shit game while playing it for 100's of hours.
 
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Bethesda doesn’t make AAA games either. At least budget wise, but they do sell like blockbuster titles.
Not true

Elder Scrolls 6 being their next title after that, (when is that coming, like 2026/2027?)
2028

It is true. Or at least it was true until Starfield. I guess you could say Starfield tipped over into being a AAA production. I’m not sure I buy the rumored cost and staff size of Starfield though given Bethesda’s previous titles. Although even at the rumored number, Bethesda still had a vastly smaller team working on Starfield than the amount of people that worked on AAA titles like GTA5, Red Dead Redemption 2, Assassin’s Creed Valhalla, and Last of Us 2. I think basically every AC game since 2013’s Black Flag (beside the recent Mirage) has had more staff than Starfield.
 

tritosine2k

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avalanche makes AA games, not that it can't look better than AAA:


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And why make a car game instead of silver shroud you can also play as ordinary character?

Who cares about avalanche n+1 deferred looking rendering engine that did fuck all with its realtime focus while John's RAGE has unmatched vista and distance rendering? Give me RAGE 1 with prerender weather anytime over "alsoran" deferred engine games.

Homefront 2 has prerender and it was obviously worth it . Will be the same on mobile, realtime AAA was just corner cutting, not even worth giving up MSAA.
 

Lord_Potato

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Does the Bethesda Fallout fan base even like Fallout 4 more than 3 and New Vegas? I can get Bethesda putting Skyrim on everything, it was by a wide margin the best selling game they ever made. But Fallout 4 sales are pretty similar to Fallout 3.
Fallout 3 - 12.4 million.
Fallout: New Vegas - 11.6 million.
Fallout 4 - 25 million.

https://www.vgchartz.com/game/226290/fallout/
 

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