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Fallout 5 - unofficially announced but you'll have to wait

Lemming42

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They can't really remake Morrowind because they'd be competing against Skywind. Bethesda are a generic evil company but they're aware of their perceived good relationship with modders, and they're keenly aware that sending a cease and desist to the Skywind team to clear the way for their own inferior remake would make everyone utterly despise them. I think there's a similar Oblivion remake underway.

They've sort of locked themselves out of re-releasing Skyrim again because it's become a meme at this point. After resting on their rapidly-declining laurels, the only way for them to go now is forward. I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't got a clue what to do for TES VI and Fallout 5 at this point, though, and they're just trying to keep the hype machine going to keep people's interest up despite the fact it's now been over a decade since their last unambiguously well-received release, and that Fallout is more or less a dead franchise now thanks to them shitting out two big soulless failures.

It's so strange to think that they had such a good run from Morrowind through to Skyrim - Morrowind 2002, Oblivion 2006, Fallout 3 2008, published New Vegas 2010, Skyrim 2011. A new critically acclaimed (by the mainstream, at least) blockbuster every couple years. Contrast that with the last decade - only two releases, Fo4 and Fo76, and they're both unanimously considered to be total shit. Looks like they've got another boring waste of time on the way with Shitfield. What the hell went wrong for them?
 
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If Starfield doesn't end up getting bashed for it I can see them ditching the themepark world design of their previous games (FO4 felt like their smallest yet) for some procgen'ed long distances between settlements/POIs intended for vehicle or overland map travel.
 

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But why? Why would you want such remakes at all?
If it came with better modding tools and workflows I'd buy it for that fact alone. As it is, modding Fallout 2 is something of a nightmare and some parts are borderline esoteric.
 

spockthewok

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I can't wait to not play this!
 
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But why? Why would you want such remakes at all?
Nanomachines Modifications, son!

Also plain ol' support. It would be far easier to support, say, "OpenFallout" engine, which is Open Source by default and using high-level programming languages like C#, than to support an ancient engine made in 1994-1995 or so using C/C++. It would also make multi-plataforming easy-peasy, same for compatibility with any system. Ever hear that meme about how you can run Doom on everything? Well, let's run Fallout on everything!

Hell, the big reason we got so much modding support in the Fallout Engine now, is a nice lady called Timeslip. Hilariously, she only found out about Fallout because Bethesda got it.
Look at OpenXCOM and its wonderful enviroment for mods. Imagine the POSSIBILITIES.

Plus, its very mode of work would require being able to plug in the OG Fallout files - so you still need to buy the original game in order to use the engine. Therefore, no Bethesda lawyer issues. Would also help making other mods more compatible until they get adapted to use the new engine.

And if its done with the possibility of better graphics right out of the box, we could even have graphics enhancement mods in the future.
 

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Are you looking forward to Fallout 5?

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  • Yes (funny)
  • Yes (sarcastic)
  • Yes (aggressive)
  • Yes (gender neutral)
  • Yes (aggressively sarcastic)
  • Ask me again later
 
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Are you looking forward to Fallout 5?

  • Yes
  • Yes (funny)
  • Yes (sarcastic)
  • Yes (aggressive)
  • Yes (gender neutral)
  • Yes (aggressively sarcastic)
  • Ask me again later
  • Give me more caps and I will look forward to Fallout 5
 
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spockthewok

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Are you looking forward to Fallout 5?

  • Yes
  • Yes (funny)
  • Yes (sarcastic)
  • Yes (aggressive)
  • Yes (gender neutral)
  • Yes (aggressively sarcastic)
  • Ask me again later
That's far too many dialogue choices.
 
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EtcEtcEtc

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It's so strange to think that they had such a good run from Morrowind through to Skyrim - Morrowind 2002, Oblivion 2006, Fallout 3 2008, published New Vegas 2010, Skyrim 2011. A new critically acclaimed (by the mainstream, at least) blockbuster every couple years. Contrast that with the last decade - only two releases, Fo4 and Fo76, and they're both unanimously considered to be total shit. Looks like they've got another boring waste of time on the way with Shitfield. What the hell went wrong for them?
I don't know - but if I'm Microsoft I'm taking the keys to the Elder Scrolls/Fallout away from Bethesda and getting other studios to start making them.

Buying a studio so you can sit and wait till 2027-2030 for their most profitable franchises is a shit investment.
 

Joyvankek

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Imagine if Bethshit decides to "remaster/remake" both of them and then removing both original games from sale upon release.
I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Not only these faggots forgot how to make games, and just keep on releasing Skyrim over and over again. Know their own engine less than modders, but the engine itself is a fucking ancient pice of shit.
To think they used to be company that tried to innovate hard, just look Daggerfall was, sure it was buggy like hell, but for that time? Game was impressive. How the mighty have fallen.
On top of all that, they're acting like EA at this point.

What we actually do know now is that it's going to be called Fallout 5, and not being made by Obsidian.
Obsidian is not made up of the same people that made F:NV anymore. Just look at The Outer Worlds.
They will end up like Bioware. A bunch of incompetent transvestites will wear the company name like a meatsuit to bait people, to buy their garbage.
 

gerey

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What great news. Bethesda is coming out with some exciting games like Starfield and the most anticipated game of all ES6
Is anyone actually excited for TES6? Starfield seems to have met with a very tepid reception, and I don't really see people chomping at the bits to play TESVI.
 

wishbonetail

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What great news. Bethesda is coming out with some exciting games like Starfield and the most anticipated game of all ES6
Is anyone actually excited for TES6? Starfield seems to have met with a very tepid reception, and I don't really see people chomping at the bits to play TESVI.
They just should've done ES in space spinoff. That would've been fun.
 

BruceVC

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What great news. Bethesda is coming out with some exciting games like Starfield and the most anticipated game of all ES6
Is anyone actually excited for TES6? Starfield seems to have met with a very tepid reception, and I don't really see people chomping at the bits to play TESVI.
Yes Im genuinely very excited, I love Bethesda games. Modded of course :salute:
 

BruceVC

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What great news. Bethesda is coming out with some exciting games like Starfield and the most anticipated game of all ES6
Is anyone actually excited for TES6? Starfield seems to have met with a very tepid reception, and I don't really see people chomping at the bits to play TESVI.
They just should've done ES in space spinoff. That would've been fun.
ES scrolls in space? No that doesnt make sense or appeal to me at all ....the ES is a fantasy world, its not a Sci-fi theme?
 

jackofshadows

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To think they used to be company that tried to innovate hard, just look Daggerfall was, sure it was buggy like hell, but for that time? Game was impressive. How the mighty have fallen.
They hasn't fallen anywhere yet. I think it's fair to call the Starfield showcase unipressive in terms of art direction, gunplay, performance and so on but at the same time it's an extremely ambitious game. Both ship and settlement customisation looks very promising and the chosen scale is just as insane as it was in Daggerfall. Say what you want about Bethesda but they really can into scaling so I expect SF world to feel much less samey than it was with DF.

As for bugs and overall junkiness I don't get why people give Beth slack in DF (nostalgia apparently) but not today. That's the price for getting an ambitious product. Pretty much the same for CP77 case, by the way.
 

wishbonetail

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To think they used to be company that tried to innovate hard, just look Daggerfall was, sure it was buggy like hell, but for that time? Game was impressive. How the mighty have fallen.
They hasn't fallen anywhere yet. I think it's fair to call the Starfield showcase unipressive in terms of art direction, gunplay, performance and so on but at the same time it's an extremely ambitious game. Both ship and settlement customisation looks very promising and the chosen scale is just as insane as it was in Daggerfall. Say what you want about Bethesda but they really can into scaling so I expect SF world to feel much less samey than it was with DF.

As for bugs and overall junkiness I don't get why people give Beth slack in DF (nostalgia apparently) but not today. That's the price for getting an ambitious product. Pretty much the same for CP77 case, by the way.
And it will be bloated and empty world with samey activities throughout. And, as always, the real quality content will be in smaller DLCs.
 

CthuluIsSpy

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After seeing what Beth did to Fallout in Fallout 4, I'm not too enthused.
Yay, more nonsensical world building aimed at the lowest common denominator, even more "streamlined" role play mechanics because character building and actual ramifications for your decisions is hard for zoomers, and guns that look like cobbled together pieces of shit because "lol, it's the post apocalypse, everything is shit. Even when it's been 200 years after the bombs fell".
And all with a repetitive gameplay loop of search dungeon, kill shit, find randomly generated, mediocre loot, rinse and repeat.

Oh, and you bet they're going to bring back the Enclave again, because can't let a generic villain go to waste.
 
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