Squeenix Final Fantasy VII Remake Integrade - now on Steam

[Rahdulan]

But now, just looking at the gameplay of this... I don't think I'm gonna be able to stand listening to the voiceactors doing their typical anime thing where they grunt and make other noises all the fucking time. Or listening to Barrett be the typical "anime black guy" character. As soon as voices are introduced, it's just over. Am I gonna have to actually listen to Cloud being anime-dramatic? Ugh...

Amusingly enough it seems like Japanese VA is way easier on grunting and panting compared to English VA. Turn on subtitles for maximum impact.



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[MajorMace]

because that just sounds like super lazy degree 0 "spot the difference" type of review.

Yes but you still gotta compare both entries. There's no such thing as 'standing on its own' when the original project is still alive in people's heads. They'll make the comparison and so would anyone who wants to criticize it. And while changes aren't necessarily bad, there are different levels and kinds of change. And they rub people in different ways.

There are stylistic changes, like the Honeybee Inn scenes where Midgar's most fabulous turn Cloud into an anime girl. Its the same story, but with more glitter. Literally. Those were fun, tbh.

There are expanded universe changes, where the Avalanche team, especially Best Girl Jesse, are given more screentime and characterization. Again, still the same story. You just get more of it. And fans lap it up.

And there are minor outright story changes, like, from what I understand, the Avalanche team surviving their untimely deaths. At this point you can start arguing about wins and losses for he story. I'd say that if people felt attached to the Avalanche characters in the original and wanted them to live, its a testament to the old game managing to make engaging drama out of very little. All you get in its place is fap material. But again, fans lap this shit up.

None of which is on the level of the game's overall plot. Which brings us to the dementors. Magic spirits wandering around and keeping people from breaking up with fate is just silly. Its Nomura literally telling the audience he doesn't want to do a FF7, rather delve into edginess all of his own. Decades of Disney crap have driven this poor man mad. He never liked happy go lucky Mickey shit. Again, change is not bad on its own. But if the original FF7 was Sakaguchi coping with his mom's death and creating this environmentalist tale about how we are all souls of the Planet on the stream of life, what do we have to look forward to FF7Remake's new identity? A re-do of a bad anime plot about challenging fate I guess. Something that was done THREE TIMES IN FFXIII AND THEN IN FFXV AGAIN. BY NOMURA.

Like holy mother of God square you gotta shame-fire some senior people. Its corona season. Nobody is gonna notice.

Thanks Delterius.
I wholeheartedly agree that we should compare both entries. I was actually asking for that, specifically.

 

[Black]

But now, just looking at the gameplay of this... I don't think I'm gonna be able to stand listening to the voiceactors doing their typical anime thing where they grunt and make other noises all the fucking time. Or listening to Barrett be the typical "anime black guy" character. As soon as voices are introduced, it's just over. Am I gonna have to actually listen to Cloud being anime-dramatic? Ugh...

Amusingly enough it seems like Japanese VA is way easier on grunting and panting compared to English VA. Turn on subtitles for maximum impact.



vs

Japs are better at grunts because they do that shit all the time in animus, westerners don't really do it that much.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Tifa is contantly sweaty and in need of a shower atfer a good workout. Thank god this game wasn't released during no nut november

Link me this stream so we can all enjoy this.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/589814953

It's a chat with thousands of people and text zooms by faster than green numbers on the monitor when the goth girl hacker in CSI is invading the pentagon, so those are just what I managed to fish from the sea of : orgasmface: emotes and people complaining that someone somewhere likes boobs. Probably would be better off paying more attention to the game, but seeing live reactions to japanese devs not giving a single fuck about modern western gamer sensibilities is a nice refresher in these trying times.

Is...is that [Barret's] voice kinda racist?

Everytime she giggles is like icepicks in my goddamn ears

they're milking the females like crazy. yes I liked that phrasing

add fat people onto the list of what square doesn't see as human beings, right behind women

haha fat people are funny btw let me call mom upstairs to see if dinner is ready

the amount of incels in chat tonight......brain worms

(this last one is interesting because they had a Tifa avatar; maybe it's more levels of irony than I can handle right now)

 

[Ash]

Ah, these are my fellow "fans". They're the ones who are really getting milked.

"Jessie is thistier for cloud than we are for Tifa"

Yeah I doubt that. Fucking neckbeard bathwater drinkers.

These are the shitlords that call for Square Enix, destroyer of IPs, to "remake"/butcher a classic. It was all for the waifus. All for the thirst of the Ultra Omega Simp.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

add fat people onto the list of what square doesn't see as human beings, right behind women

based

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Decades of Disney crap have driven this poor man mad.

His brain is literally just a tangled bundle of belts now!

 

[Häyhä]

When you guys are melting over Tifa , Aerith and Thot master Jessie , i'm looking foward for the BAE Yuffie.

I used to like Yuffie the best, but then again, I as well was under the age of consent back then. Alas, 'twas not meant to be, while the currents of time ravaged my body and turned me to an old man, she remained forever a 13-year-old.

Tifa all the way.

 

[Endemic]

Excuse the nitpick, but Yuffie is 16 years old. Speaking of which, I never noticed how many belts were on her outfit back in the day. Nomura gonna Nomura I guess.

 

[†††]

This game is the gift that keeps on giving

 

[Dishonoredbr]

This game is the gift that keeps on giving

This man (the one with the book) is probably a version of himself from the future , that took a kid's body so he could survive longer to get more power but another version of him is trying stop him.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

I wonder how square would feel about just abandoning their stupid story writing/garbage combat/world building and just going all in on making anime porn games, because that's honestly where their true talent lies

 

[Reinhardt]

His brain is literally just a tangled bundle of belts now!

 

[mogwaimon]

I used to like Yuffie the best, but then again, I as well was under the age of consent back then. Alas, 'twas not meant to be, while the currents of time ravaged my body and turned me to an old man, she remained forever a 13-year-old.

Tifa all the way.

when i first played FF7 and saw the Yuffie character art with unzipped booty shorts hangin off that tight wutai cutay bootay i was a young lad of about ten. now i'm thirty two. it's not my fault that my onee-chan became an imouto, sheeeeeit

alright newfag i know you're all freshfaced and and all that but don't be ridin off my coattails with the bargain bin Dr. Thunder version of my posts.

 

[Häyhä]

Don't flatter yourself, I didn't bother reading 1500 posts about waifus before posting. Besides, obviously my post was way more refined and classy.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

They may as well go X2 Rikku levels of redesign on Yuffie. The game is going to be a narrative nightmare going forward, have some fun with this bullshit.

 

[Lord of Riva]

I wonder how square would feel about just abandoning their stupid story writing/garbage combat/world building and just going all in on making anime porn games, because that's honestly where their true talent lies

I could swear that the "ethics" department managed to convince the developers to change character designs because they are too "sexualised". People that argue that the characters are to sexy now are absolutely impossible to please, what exactly IS wanted? like a list of clear do's and don'ts please.

I guess the best solution would be to stop including women in games apart from porn-games so we don't have to hear this again.

 

[Delterius]

I wonder how square would feel about just abandoning their stupid story writing/garbage combat/world building and just going all in on making anime porn games, because that's honestly where their true talent lies

I could swear that the "ethics" department managed to convince the developers to change character designs because they are too "sexualised". People that argue that the characters are to sexy now are absolutely impossible to please, what exactly IS wanted? like a list of clear do's and don'ts please.

I guess the best solution would be to stop including women in games apart from porn-games so we don't have to hear this again.

remake tifa is hot af what the fuck are you on

 

[jungl]

remake tifa is hot af what the fuck are you on

its corey feldman in a drag. Cloud is Ju Ji-hoon cosplaying as cloud. 3D graphics anime always looks goofy.

 

[Lord of Riva]

I wonder how square would feel about just abandoning their stupid story writing/garbage combat/world building and just going all in on making anime porn games, because that's honestly where their true talent lies

I could swear that the "ethics" department managed to convince the developers to change character designs because they are too "sexualised". People that argue that the characters are to sexy now are absolutely impossible to please, what exactly IS wanted? like a list of clear do's and don'ts please.

I guess the best solution would be to stop including women in games apart from porn-games so we don't have to hear this again.

remake tifa is hot af what the fuck are you on

huh? thats not what i said.

The fact is that Tifas design has been changed to please those who think that her design was problematic because it was to "sexy". However those who do not mind things that are feminine cried out that things have changed to please the people not valuing whatever they think is worthwhile while those who fought to change her design are still not happy, as can be easily seen in this thread even, in the quoted chat messages.

Hence i asked what the actual problematic designs are for those who are still not happy, it seems impossible to find an accurate description of the things that are problematic, unless the sole fact that someone could find her hot is the problem itself.
But naturally there is nothing males wouldn't possibly find hot (including objects) and i do think her design is definitely attractively designed myself. I also do not mean that derogatory regarding male sexual behavior, just to make this clear: my stance is quite the opposite of that.

I also did not want to steer the direction of this thread in this direction, while I am quite happy to discuss this gernally, there are already a lot of places to do this. My apologies if this now derailed the discussion however i could not let the comment of Dawkinsfan69 stand uncommented when the games has in fact been "de-sexualized" (read: changed in a way that is supposedly gives less offence in certain circles) that we debate this now is quite the indication that the whole "sexualisation" debate and the steps to counter this "sexualisation" are outright nonsense.

 

[aweigh]

it seems impossible to find an accurate description of the things that are problematic

Bingo. Post-modern cultural marxism is an emotional engine that doesn't deal with coherence and does not require internal consistency.

What is wrong with Tifa? Anything they want to be wrong, period. If they notice you like something a little too much then they will take it away, as simple as that, because the goal is to dominate the medium. There is a lot of game playing going on and tribal politics are the order of the day.

 

[Delterius]

The fact is that Tifas design has been changed to please those who think that her design was problematic because it was to "sexy". However those who do not mind things that are feminine cried out that things have changed to please the people not valuing whatever they think is worthwhile while those who fought to change her design are still not happy, as can be easily seen in this thread even, in the quoted chat messages.

so the girls are cute and you're still talking about sjws

good lord you guys are boring

 

[Lord of Riva]

The fact is that Tifas design has been changed to please those who think that her design was problematic because it was to "sexy". However those who do not mind things that are feminine cried out that things have changed to please the people not valuing whatever they think is worthwhile while those who fought to change her design are still not happy, as can be easily seen in this thread even, in the quoted chat messages.

so the girls are cute and you're still talking about sjws

good lord you guys are boring

Uhm, i did not start the debate about how pornographic FF7 is. I am also not sure who "you guys" are, not that I am not used that people tend to find the easiest to reach shoe-box to put people into. Not sure how this makes me the boring one though.

Careful throwing around statements like that. You and me know that it is completely natural, but they will take statements like that as proof that men are inherently "toxic" and need to be fixed. They live with an ideological analog of "original sin", sometimes it manifests as "white guilt" or some other nonsense, but in the specific case of men it is "toxicity", that men are inherently baser than women.

While you are right about that, I would also say that being "careful" is a fools errand just like with this topic it actually does not matter what you say, someone in their arbitrary group think will find offense.

So i would think that being careful when i merely *try* to state the truth would mean submitting to the rules of an arbitrary group. I'm not planning on that in the near future.

 

[Delterius]

you have an entire dumpsterfire to watch

but you focus on what resetera thinks about the cute girls

while true patricians are revelling on best thot jessie

so yeah thou art boring

 

[Lord of Riva]

you have an entire dumpsterfire to watch

but you focus on what resetera thinks about the cute girls

while true patricians are revelling on best thot jessie

so yeah thou art boring

funny, here i thought i was quoting a post on the codex, not resetera. Maybe you mixed up your tabs?

EDIT: Also i hardly focus ONLY on this issue, even in this thread. But whatever.