Final fantasy XIV any good?

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Dang. They're ending the Void storyline and we never got questing zones to explore multiple different layers of the Void. It was just one 15 minute long corridor dungeon and a trial. Such wasted potential.

Void is canonically just a wasteland. Nothing to explore really just barren land. In fact the void related dungeon and location were areal.

You mean, like "The Empty"? =P

Thats another thing. The Void is the 13th and is a dead star swallowed by the void. Is described like a place swallowed by the void where nothing survived but Voidsent that actually prey on each other to sate their endless hunger of aether. So nothing really exciting to see there is a dead planet. The first dungeon in the location was the Fallen Court of Troia. Was a floating castle.

It's the same with the 1st.

"One of those reflections—the one nearest to the Source—is our home. And we were the heroes blessed with Her Light. But not all worlds hold Light and Dark in equal measure. In ours, the power of Light was greater by far. So the Ascians who once threatened our home were no match, and they fell before us, one after another, till none were left. Victory, we thought...

...And then came the Light—a flood of pure, blinding radiance, annihilating shadow and color and life itself. Ere long, it will consume our world, leaving naught in its wake but blank perfection."

Both got consumed, one by darkness another by light, both planets are mostly wastelands.
Yet we got an entire expansion out of the 13th, therefore being a "wasteland" or mostly "barren" isn't really much of an excuse for it.

Just sprinkle the damn thing with some plot and voilá!

Is not the same. In part the flood of life was halted.

 

[Myobi]

Dang. They're ending the Void storyline and we never got questing zones to explore multiple different layers of the Void. It was just one 15 minute long corridor dungeon and a trial. Such wasted potential.

Void is canonically just a wasteland. Nothing to explore really just barren land. In fact the void related dungeon and location were areal.

You mean, like "The Empty"? =P

Thats another thing. The Void is the 13th and is a dead star swallowed by the void. Is described like a place swallowed by the void where nothing survived but Voidsent that actually prey on each other to sate their endless hunger of aether. So nothing really exciting to see there is a dead planet. The first dungeon in the location was the Fallen Court of Troia. Was a floating castle.

It's the same with the 1st.

"One of those reflections—the one nearest to the Source—is our home. And we were the heroes blessed with Her Light. But not all worlds hold Light and Dark in equal measure. In ours, the power of Light was greater by far. So the Ascians who once threatened our home were no match, and they fell before us, one after another, till none were left. Victory, we thought...

...And then came the Light—a flood of pure, blinding radiance, annihilating shadow and color and life itself. Ere long, it will consume our world, leaving naught in its wake but blank perfection."

Both got consumed, one by darkness another by light, both planets are mostly wastelands.
Yet we got an entire expansion out of the 13th, therefore being a "wasteland" or mostly "barren" isn't really much of an excuse for it.

Just sprinkle the damn thing with some plot and voilá!

Is not the same. In part the flood of life was halted.

"It's not the same cuz they sprinkled some lore in that one to squeeze an expansion out of it."

You are one hell of a brilliant fucking furry.

 

[Cryomancer]

The infos he gives are often very inaccurate. Ff11 is a product of his time also the first square mmo. Is riddled with problems even if has a certain charm. Ff14 has flaws as well but does majority of things great. Try both ff14 has a quite long free trial.

Spoiler

A good video explaining xi
and xiv

Seeing this videos, I got interested in FFXI but not in XIV. As for "is a product of his time", XIV is also a product of his time. But is a product of modern mmo conventions which can be resumed into killing every single RPG element from the game and making the game all about cooldown managing and gear dressing.

I play RPG's to get immersed into a fictional world, to escape the my fears of failing in getting my objectives done IRL. If the game becomes a "dressing" game, I can't use the game for escapism. Fells like merely a "chore". As for private servers, I'm having a problem with the launcher of them. Not their fault, I'm using Linux and Linux despite being much better with games now than was when I started to use about 2008, still have problems with custom launchers and anti cheats.

 

[Trithne]

They kinda set up Shadowbringers by suddenly having what had otherwise been the B plot of Heavensward become the A plot.

The void stuff is probably going to end very abruptly, since 6.5 is supposed to be lead in to 7.0 story stuff, so it was basically a filler arc. And it feels like one too. They did my mans Scarmiglione and Cagnazzo dirty reducing them to mere dungeon bosses.

 

[Delterius]

It's not the same cuz they sprinkled some lore

the story isn't the same because the story isn't the same sounds kinda circular innit

*disclaimer, haven't played ffxiv since shadowbringers killed healers

 

[Hirato]

If you want a proper RPG, then FFXIV isn't really your game; but to be fair, pretty much no MMORPG is.
If to you, the main draw of an RPG is doing character builds, then you'll only find it within the Blue Mage Job/Class.
Closest thing you have to an actual build otherwise is deciding which materia to pentameld onto your gear to shore up your weaknesses.
Unless you're doing Ultimate and Savage raids however, pentamelding is kind of pointless.

FFXIV is primarily a narrative driven game, and an extremely linear one at that.
Its narrative is the one thing it excels at, with everything else ranging from "kind of awful" to "pretty decent".




I don't think we're done with the Void world yet, just dealt with an immediate threat to Etheirys

Thoughts

As some of you may remember, in Shadowbringers, if you completed all of the Role Quests, you then get to do a series of 'void quests'.
In this quest mini-series, you're dealing with 2 refugees from the 13th, and a kid from the magic DPS role quest (iirc) that is able to open void gates by resonating aether.
With the help of a Nu Mou helper, they send in a porxie, gather some data, and the helper mentions that "it will take years to analyse the data properly".

I think that was them hinting that it will become relevant in the future.
So I believe those quests will serve as a prerequisite for 7.x's relic weapon grind, which will take place on the 13th in a Bozja/Eureka like zone.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Dang. They're ending the Void storyline and we never got questing zones to explore multiple different layers of the Void. It was just one 15 minute long corridor dungeon and a trial. Such wasted potential.

Void is canonically just a wasteland. Nothing to explore really just barren land. In fact the void related dungeon and location were areal.

You mean, like "The Empty"? =P

Thats another thing. The Void is the 13th and is a dead star swallowed by the void. Is described like a place swallowed by the void where nothing survived but Voidsent that actually prey on each other to sate their endless hunger of aether. So nothing really exciting to see there is a dead planet. The first dungeon in the location was the Fallen Court of Troia. Was a floating castle.

It's the same with the 1st.

"One of those reflections—the one nearest to the Source—is our home. And we were the heroes blessed with Her Light. But not all worlds hold Light and Dark in equal measure. In ours, the power of Light was greater by far. So the Ascians who once threatened our home were no match, and they fell before us, one after another, till none were left. Victory, we thought...

...And then came the Light—a flood of pure, blinding radiance, annihilating shadow and color and life itself. Ere long, it will consume our world, leaving naught in its wake but blank perfection."

Both got consumed, one by darkness another by light, both planets are mostly wastelands.
Yet we got an entire expansion out of the 13th, therefore being a "wasteland" or mostly "barren" isn't really much of an excuse for it.

Just sprinkle the damn thing with some plot and voilá!

Is not the same. In part the flood of life was halted.

"It's not the same cuz they sprinkled some lore in that one to squeeze an expansion out of it."

You are one hell of a brilliant fucking furry.

Here is why

The flood of light was partially absorbed by Minfilia this is why in the first you actually have survivors and even cities. The 13h is totally corrupted there is not one single living being there the ones that are inside that star are all voidsent. It is a total dead star. You can see it also while doing the dungeon of the fallen court of troia if you look on the horizon you can see everything swallowed by the void. On top of that various npc explain that at every turn.

 

[Myobi]

I know why my dude, you are missing the point completely.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I know why my dude, you are missing the point completely.

The team was always consistent with the lore i honestly never expected the 13th and the void to make us able to explore the dead star. Is more likely that will be an hook for something else.

They did that before

They did that in heavensward with the warriors of light even before the release of shadowbringer.

 

[Tyrr]

I expect something about Dragons and the southern continent. (After you rescue the dragon sister in the 13th)

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

I expect something about Dragons and the southern continent. (After you rescue the dragon sister in the 13th)

There is a rumor the new exp will have somehow to do with the new continent. The one that was attempted to be conquered by Allagans. Wich i suspect there is some truth in that because according with the lore there is a lot of void presence there as well.

 

[Tyrr]

I expect something about Dragons and the southern continent. (After you rescue the dragon sister in the 13th)

There is a rumor the new exp will have somehow to do with the new continent. The one that was attempted to be conquered by Allagans. Wich i suspect there is some truth in that because according with the lore there is a lot of void presence there as well.

Yes. It was also the home of Bahamut and other dragons if I remember correctly.
So you rescue the sister. She wants to visit her old home, you follow her. And there is the connection between the patch content to the new expansion.

 

[Myobi]

The team was always consistent with the lore i honestly never expected the 13th and the void to make us able to explore the dead star. Is more likely that will be an hook for something else.

Doesn't matter what you expect or not.

You stated that the 13th doesn't get questing zones to explore because it's a wasteland, it's just barren land.

The Empty, is also wasteland without much to explore, yet you went there, explored and eventually changed the zone.

Therefore there is "nothing to explore" just until the developers add it in accompanied by whatever lore they feel like pulling out from where the sun doesn't shine to justify it.

For all I know or care, you can just get a zone on its moon or a "bubble" made by Mrfuckificarewho like in the 1st and bam, new questing zone.
Will it happen? Probably not, alas, the only point here is that your justification for it not to happen sucks balls.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

The team was always consistent with the lore i honestly never expected the 13th and the void to make us able to explore the dead star. Is more likely that will be an hook for something else.

Doesn't matter what you expect or not.

You stated that the 13th doesn't get questing zones to explore because it's a wasteland, it's just barren land.

The Empty, is also wasteland without much to explore, yet you went there, explored and eventually changed the zone.

Therefore there is "nothing to explore" just until the developers add it in accompanied by whatever lore they feel like pulling out from where the sun doesn't shine to justify it.

For all I know or care, you can just get a zone on its moon or a "bubble" made by Mrfuckificarewho like in the 1st and bam, new questing zone.
Will it happen? Probably not, alas, the only point here is that your justification for it not to happen sucks balls.

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

 

[Trithne]

They can come up with any justification they want, like how they came up with a whole bunch of stuff to yeet the tower across time and space and wake up El gato so he could yeet everyone to another world to force us to have an entire expansion take place elsewhere with the same damn characters.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

They can come up with any justification they want, like how they came up with a whole bunch of stuff to yeet the tower across time and space and wake up El gato so he could yeet everyone to another world to force us to have an entire expansion take place elsewhere with the same damn characters.

Yes but.

Maybe but usually they write clues around the storyline for the clues that were written there is chance we will visit the lost continent. The 4 fiends were dispatched really quick next patch we will have Golbez and most likely the sister of the dragon of Thavnir from the trailer

So i dont think the void arc will be the new whole expansion but just an hook.

 

[Myobi]

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

I know dude, it's crazy how a place called The fucking Empty, stops being as empty as soon as some mother fucker grabs a pen and writes shit in it.

This is like that last time you spent 2 or 3 pages stating that highlanders have eyebrows because they have an tattoo option that sort of looks like eyebrows, especially on the modded screen shots you kept linking.

 

[Tyrr]

With Pandaemonium part 3 coming soon, let's enjoy the best song of the last 2 parts.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

I know dude, it's crazy how a place called The fucking Empty, stops being as empty as soon as some mother fucker grabs a pen and writes shit in it.

This is like that last time you spent 2 or 3 pages stating that highlanders have eyebrows because they have an tattoo option that sort of looks like eyebrows, especially on the modded screen shots you kept linking.

Except the clues are all there. But i guess the next patch will prove me right. And yes. Those tatts were eyebrows. Dosen't change the fact i was correct.

 

[Myobi]

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

I know dude, it's crazy how a place called The fucking Empty, stops being as empty as soon as some mother fucker grabs a pen and writes shit in it.

This is like that last time you spent 2 or 3 pages stating that highlanders have eyebrows because they have an tattoo option that sort of looks like eyebrows, especially on the modded screen shots you kept linking.

Except the clues are all there. But i guess the next patch will prove me right. And yes. Those tatts were eyebrows. Dosen't change the fact i was correct.

If there will be a questing zone there or not was never my point.

The fact that you are still struggling just to understand that explains why you can't tell the difference between a tattoo and eyebrows :D

It's like arguing with a Star Citizen backer, jesus fucking christ my dude. Just go buy yourself an Idris.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

I know dude, it's crazy how a place called The fucking Empty, stops being as empty as soon as some mother fucker grabs a pen and writes shit in it.

This is like that last time you spent 2 or 3 pages stating that highlanders have eyebrows because they have an tattoo option that sort of looks like eyebrows, especially on the modded screen shots you kept linking.

Except the clues are all there. But i guess the next patch will prove me right. And yes. Those tatts were eyebrows. Dosen't change the fact i was correct.

If there will be a questing zone there or not was never my point.

The fact that you are still struggling just to understand that explains why you can't tell the difference between a tattoo and eyebrows :D

It's like arguing with a Star Citizen backer, jesus fucking christ my dude. Just go buy yourself an Idris.

Told you wait for the next patch then we shall see!

 

[Trithne]

Speaking of next patch,

I am mostly prepared. Got my Indagator's gear and relic tools ready. Stock up on scrips over the weekend.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

Speaking of next patch,

I am mostly prepared. Got my Indagator's gear and relic tools ready. Stock up on scrips over the weekend.

Nice!!!

 

[Myobi]

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

I know dude, it's crazy how a place called The fucking Empty, stops being as empty as soon as some mother fucker grabs a pen and writes shit in it.

This is like that last time you spent 2 or 3 pages stating that highlanders have eyebrows because they have an tattoo option that sort of looks like eyebrows, especially on the modded screen shots you kept linking.

Except the clues are all there. But i guess the next patch will prove me right. And yes. Those tatts were eyebrows. Dosen't change the fact i was correct.

If there will be a questing zone there or not was never my point.

The fact that you are still struggling just to understand that explains why you can't tell the difference between a tattoo and eyebrows :D

It's like arguing with a Star Citizen backer, jesus fucking christ my dude. Just go buy yourself an Idris.

Told you wait for the next patch then we shall see!

We shall see... What exactly?

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

You had like one dungeon in the empty and a series of trials. And we got troia and a trial in the 13h. The 13th is basically a dead plant maybe at best we will get a series of trials ala EDEN how it was in shadowebringers.

I know dude, it's crazy how a place called The fucking Empty, stops being as empty as soon as some mother fucker grabs a pen and writes shit in it.

This is like that last time you spent 2 or 3 pages stating that highlanders have eyebrows because they have an tattoo option that sort of looks like eyebrows, especially on the modded screen shots you kept linking.

Except the clues are all there. But i guess the next patch will prove me right. And yes. Those tatts were eyebrows. Dosen't change the fact i was correct.

If there will be a questing zone there or not was never my point.

The fact that you are still struggling just to understand that explains why you can't tell the difference between a tattoo and eyebrows :D

It's like arguing with a Star Citizen backer, jesus fucking christ my dude. Just go buy yourself an Idris.

Told you wait for the next patch then we shall see!

We shall see... What exactly?

The next patch we will fight Golbez and actually find the dragon sister. After Golbez will be dispatched only the cloud of darkness remains. I think the Void arc was indeed a pitch. I dont think we will explore the 13th like we explired the first in shadowbringer. I am pretty suspicious the story will lead us elsewhere and probably new hints will be brought with the next patch.